Saquon Barkley: Shoutout to Kellen Moore, he stuck with the run

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.Why do you Dak fanboys keep harping on "all pro" and "MVP candidate" in only one year when he sucked for half of it and proceeded to play his worst playoff game EVER and it carried over into this year, while looking worse that Cooper Rush?

We say Andy Dalton put up 34 PPG after the bye against bad teams when he played here and he didn't even have Martin in his prime, as the Cowboys shelved him.

Dalton, 31 pooints against the Vikings, 30 Bengals, 41 against the 49ers, 37 against the Eagles, should have won against the Giants and had 30, but Lamb dropped a wide open pass on like third down on the last series of the game..

The other point is Aubrey can kick from 60 plus yards easily and defensive TDs on TOs also count for offensive scoring per the stats...
First of all, I'm a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. Every player that wears a star on their helmet, i cheer for them to contribute to Dallas Cowboys winning games. I'm on record supporting and congratulating Cooper Rush for his solid contributions lately...... does that mean I'm a Cooper fan boy? I love the way our special teams stepped up. Does that mean I'm a Turpin fan boy?

So I don't know what this "fan boy" thing is. How do you believe a fan of a team but not support it's players? Sounds like some **** only dumb people do.

But again.... without deflecting this time.

What other bad or trash quarterbacks in NFL history has been in the top 10 their whole careers, broken team records, became an All-Pro and MVP candidate?

What are the trash, bum quarterbacks names? Because if it was so easy for a bum like Dak to do these things, SURELY he wasn't the first in history.

So who are these other bum quarterbacks to accomplish what Dak has accomplished? Please don't deflect this time.

Names please....
 

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Idc about Kellen Moores numbers as OC

His situational playcalling wasn’t good here and he didn’t know how to handle momentum

When your offense is on a roll you don’t buss out a trick play
 

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Still find it funny that people can't see that McCarthy stabbed Kellen in the back because he felt inferior....and rode him out of town. Now you got this disaster of a season....and McCarthy is looking for is next scapegoat.....#4.
Truth. 8)

I think KMoore gets the last laugh.
 

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First of all, I'm a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. Every player that wears a star on their helmet, i cheer for them to contribute to Dallas Cowboys winning games. I'm on record supporting and congratulating Cooper Rush for his solid contributions lately...... does that mean I'm a Cooper fan boy? I love the way our special teams stepped up. Does that mean I'm a Turpin fan boy?

So I don't know what this "fan boy" thing is. How do you believe a fan of a team but not support it's players? Sounds like some **** only dumb people do.

But again.... without deflecting this time.

What other bad or trash quarterbacks in NFL history has been in the top 10 their whole careers, broken team records, became an All-Pro and MVP candidate?

What are the trash, bum quarterbacks names? Because if it was so easy for a bum like Dak to do these things, SURELY he wasn't the first in history.

So who are these other bum quarterbacks to accomplish what Dak has accomplished? Please don't deflect this time.

Names please....
Saying I deflected doesn't mean I deflected... Not liking the asnwer doesn't mean I deflected. Andy Dalton, had a better record, put up the same numbers, but it wasn;t in garbage time. in the same offense with less help... Cooper Rush is 7-3 with the same team.
 

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Saying I deflected doesn't mean I deflected... Not liking the asnwer doesn't mean I deflected. Andy Dalton, had a better record, put up the same numbers, but it wasn;t in garbage time. in the same offense with less help... Cooper Rush is 7-3 with the same team.

Well why aren't Dalton and Rush the number one quarterbacks on their teams?

How many years have Dalton and Rush been top 10 at their positions? How many All-Pro years did Dalton and Rush have? Which one of them been in an MVP race?

Rush contributed to that 7-3, but they weren't 7-3 because of him solely. You can lie to yourself all you want to. With that said, Rush is doing a great job as a backup. He will never be a better quarterback than Dak, so you can stop mentioning their names in the same sentence.

And yes you did deflect.... you never told me the names of other bum quarterbacks in history who have been able to be perennial top 10 their whole careers, become All Pro and MVP candidates. Dak can't be the first one since it's so easy, correct?
 

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Well why aren't Dalton and Rush the number one quarterbacks on their teams?

How many years have Dalton and Rush been top 10 at their positions? How many All-Pro years did Dalton and Rush have? Which one of them been in an MVP race?

Rush contributed to that 7-3, but they weren't 7-3 because of him solely. You can lie to yourself all you want to. With that said, Rush is doing a great job as a backup. He will never be a better quarterback than Dak, so you can stop mentioning their names in the same sentence.

And yes you did deflect.... you never told me the names of other bum quarterbacks in history who have been able to be perennial top 10 their whole careers, become All Pro and MVP candidates. Dak can't be the first one since it's so easy, correct?
LOL...

1. Andy Dalton with the same roster Dak did put up the same numbers. Those are empirically demonstrated facts. Rush is 7-3 with the same roster as Dak and has a better record this year against winning teams than Dlk, who beat Desaun Watson.

2. What contitut4es MVP race. when Dak didn't get a SINGLE PLACE vote, in the two years they voted with the new ranking system. Even if we were to assume your argument about "all pros" and "MVP", Dak is even worse now, meaning one can consider it abnomrla. SO he want for "top 10" per you, tp 2nd team all pro and MVP candidtae to one of the absolute worst starting QBs in the NFL, leading the league in picks before he got injured. Name me any other QB to crap the bad like Dak if he was so great. You see two can play these "subjective" games just like you.

3. Top 10 according to you.. who are these guys?
 

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LOL...

1. Andy Dalton with the same roster Dak did put up the same numbers. Those are empirically demonstrated facts. Rush is 7-3 with the same roster as Dak and has a better record this year against winning teams than Dlk, who beat Desaun Watson.

2. What contitut4es MVP race. when Dak didn't get a SINGLE PLACE vote, in the two years they voted with the new ranking system. Even if we were to assume your argument about "all pros" and "MVP", Dak is even worse now, meaning one can consider it abnomrla. SO he want for "top 10" per you, tp 2nd team all pro and MVP candidtae to one of the absolute worst starting QBs in the NFL, leading the league in picks before he got injured. Name me any other QB to crap the bad like Dak if he was so great. You see two can play these "subjective" games just like you.

3. Top 10 according to you.. who are these guys?

Again, you still haven't answered the question my friend.

Who are the other bum quarterbacks in NFL history who've been top 10 their whole career, become All Pro and a MVP candidate? Everyone knows Dak isn't elite.

So if a bum quarterback like Dak could do those things then surely there had to be others in NFL history who were bum quarterbacks and did these things.

Give me a few names/examples of other bum quarterbacks who've been top 10, became All Pro and was in the MVP race. That's a simple question. Who are the other bum quarterback examples who've done this?
 

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Not a fan of MM whatsoever; but despite the decline in the offensive production and sub-500 record I think Jerry will take the path of least resistance and keep MM on staff.
Jerry tends to look at issues through rose-colored glasses, so in his mind the team is not suffering from lack of talent and depth, but from excessive injuries…so sadly am not looking to see wholesale changes in head coaching or coordinators.
 

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Again, you still haven't answered the question my friend.

Who are the other bum quarterbacks in NFL history who've been top 10 their whole career, become All Pro and a MVP candidate? Everyone knows Dak isn't elite.

So if a bum quarterback like Dak could do those things then surely there had to be others in NFL history who were bum quarterbacks and did these things.

Give me a few names/examples of other bum quarterbacks who've been top 10, became All Pro and was in the MVP race. That's a simple question. Who are the other bum quarterback examples who've done this?
Everybody doesn’t know he’s elite?

How often do you’d flip flop? Better than Allen and Herbert, top 5.. over and over again on this forum..

All pro and mvp surely sound like you trying to make case.. even Blake bortkes threw 35 TDs in 1 year
 

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Everybody doesn’t know he’s elite?

How often do you’d flip flop? Better than Allen and Herbert, top 5.. over and over again on this forum..

All pro and mvp surely sound like you trying to make case.. even Blake bortkes threw 35 TDs in 1 year

How did I flip flop? I've NEVER said Dak was elite.

Dak was called a bum. So I asked the question.... 2hat other bum quarterbacks in NFL history have been top 10 their whole career, become an All-Pro and MVP candidate???


That's a simple question. Can you answer the question or are you going to run, hide and evade answering how a bum quarterback can do these things and what other bum quarterbacks have done it?

Simple questions.
 

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How did I flip flop? I've NEVER said Dak was elite.

Dak was called a bum. So I asked the question.... 2hat other bum quarterbacks in NFL history have been top 10 their whole career, become an All-Pro and MVP candidate???


That's a simple question. Can you answer the question or are you going to run, hide and evade answering how a bum quarterback can do these things and what other bum quarterbacks have done it?

Simple questions.
I already told you that.

Top 10 according to WHO and in what? Who says hes top 10 as a career? He didn’t even reach 30 TDs passing until 5 years in.

I told you, what “bum” had had the good fortune of playing behind 3 all-pro OL in their career and a top TO defense and the worst division in football and still sucks against playing any good defense and when he gets to the playoffs routinely looks like the worst player on the field that day?

You are the one not answering the question..
 

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I already told you that.

Top 10 according to WHO and in what? Who says hes top 10 as a career? He didn’t even reach 30 TDs passing until 5 years in.

I told you, what “bum” had had the good fortune of playing behind 3 all-pro OL in their career and a top TO defense and the worst division in football and still sucks against playing any good defense and when he gets to the playoffs routinely looks like the worst player on the field that day?

You are the one not answering the question..
According to the players production added up by the officials who work for the NFL.... Dak's production has landed him on the top 10 quarterbacks listed. So if you're going to ignore one person's production on the field, I guess we have to throw out every player's production that's record by the staticians who are paid top document on-field production.


Oh, so you're saying Dak is the first and only "bum" quarterback to have been top 10 his whole career, became an All Pro and MVP candidate??? Thats truly amazing after 100 years of football.

Who here is actually stupid enough to believe Dak is the first "bum" in NFL history to become All Pro, was an MVP candidate and maintained top 10 production???

I'm not going to even ask anyone here to waste their time explaining why that doesn't make any sense.
 

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According to the players production added up by the officials who work for the NFL.... Dak's production has landed him on the top 10 quarterbacks listed. So if you're going to ignore one person's production on the field, I guess we have to throw out every player's production that's record by the staticians who are paid top document on-field production.


Oh, so you're saying Dak is the first and only "bum" quarterback to have been top 10 his whole career, became an All Pro and MVP candidate??? Thats truly amazing after 100 years of football.

Who here is actually stupid enough to believe Dak is the first "bum" in NFL history to become All Pro, was an MVP candidate and maintained top 10 production???

I'm not going to even ask anyone here to waste their time explaining why that doesn't make any sense.
Where is this players production list for each year he was here?

How was that bum this year in the same offense that he was “MVP” and “all pro”?
 

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Where is this players production list for each year he was here?

How was that bum this year in the same offense that he was “MVP” and “all pro”?

Injuries may have has something to do with it. I don't know I'm just taking a guess.

Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL and probably in history..... but how did he look in the Super Bowl with the same offense he won a Superbowl with.... but with a completely injured offensive line???

Mahomes didn't look too good with major injuries altering the team did he.... exactly.

Now by no means am I comparing Dak to Mahomes. But if the best quarterback in the world looks different with injuries around him, we can't expect other quarterbacks to overcome the team wide injury bug.

Sadly.... Dak IS expected to look the same with starters out unfortunately.
 

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I wonder how happy Kellen is now that he has a top tier QB....... it makes a big difference.

It would be tough to go back to Dallas and downgrade

Probably as good as he feels having a top tier running back, top tier receivers and a top tier defense. By the way.... if Jalen was so top tier, why does an average quarterback like Dak have the upper hand head to head vs Jalen?

If Jalen was so top tier, why is he barely passing for over 150 yards?
 

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I thought Brown was sulking about the passing game people not on the same page or some such complaint . The heck with 11-2 who cares as long as your star receiver is unhinged
 

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Coordinator blessed with elite talent at every position gets praised.
And that shoutout shows that Barkley has seen the same thing in Moore that we saw, a pass happy former QB that seldom does what’s best….lol
 

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Injuries may have has something to do with it. I don't know I'm just taking a guess.

Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL and probably in history..... but how did he look in the Super Bowl with the same offense he won a Superbowl with.... but with a completely injured offensive line???

Mahomes didn't look too good with major injuries altering the team did he.... exactly.

Now by no means am I comparing Dak to Mahomes. But if the best quarterback in the world looks different with injuries around him, we can't expect other quarterbacks to overcome the team wide injury bug.

Sadly.... Dak IS expected to look the same with starters out unfortunately.
Dak has completely sucked with a talented roster. Mahomes has consistently carried his team in the playoffs, every year.
 
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