SAS says Dak is the problem

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By every measurable metric Dak has been one of the most productive, efficient, and successful quarterbacks in the NFL since he was drafted. Is he elite? No. But he is a true franchise quarterback that has been a key factor in the Cowboys' success over the course of his career.

Now, if we want to bash his performances in the playoffs against the 49ers the past two seasons, that's justified. The team as a whole had issues against San Fran both times and Dak was unable to pick up the slack.

The one criticism of Dak that actually sticks is the fact that he basically goes as the team goes. When everything goes right he looks like one of the best in the game. When things break down he kind of goes down with it. I understand that.

However, since I can sit here at home and see this, it's the fault of the coaching staff for not seeing the same thing. They know what they have in him. He's good enough to win a Super Bowl. Lesser quarterbacks have done it. Now let's put him in better position to succeed instead of putting Dak in the same spot over and over again expecting different results.
What better position?

Give him a good RB? He’s had he NFL rushing leader twice.

A good O-Line? He’s constantly had 2 and sometimes 3 All Pros on the Oline.

A good defense? He’s had top 5 defenses and the past 2 years one of the few defenses in NFL history to led the NFL in turnovers back to back seasons.

What exactly does Dak need? Because the talent and skill is never going to he there. Dak will always find a way to fail on that field.

You want him dragged across the finish line when you should be expecting better from him instead.
 

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Losers at winning a SuperBowl.
but in the past you called dan Marino a "Loser" and Trent Dilfer a "winner". nothing more or less. just those words.

are you changing the adjectives, and how you are describing them now. so now its Marino is a "Superbowl Loser".

just wanted to see how you are shifting your opinion. nothing wrong really.
 

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Marino and Burrow have sniffed SuperBowls.

Dak just sucks.
What an in-depth analysis. A quarterback sucks unless he gets to the Super Bowl or a championship game.

So the NFL's elite QB's are Mahomes, Hurts, Allen, Burrow, followed by 28 pieces of garbage.
What better position?

Give him a good RB? He’s had he NFL rushing leader twice.

A good O-Line? He’s constantly had 2 and sometimes 3 All Pros on the Oline.

A good defense? He’s had top 5 defenses and the past 2 years one of the few defenses in NFL history to led the NFL in turnovers back to back seasons.

What exactly does Dak need? Because the talent and skill is never going to he there. Dak will always find a way to fail on that field.

You want him dragged across the finish line when you should be expecting better from him instead.
1. The Cowboys did not run the ball at all in the past two playoff losses to San Fran.
2. The offensive line played very poorly in those games as well. And they admit as much. The 49ers pushed them around and were more physical.
3. The past two years were the ONLY times Dak has had an elite defense. And some turnovers in the playoffs would have helped a ton too.

What Dak needs is a little more support from the rest of the team when he's going up against the best teams in the league. It doesn't mean he sucks. It means it takes a total team effort in the playoffs because there are no weak teams come January. The Cowboys' dynasty of the 1990's won a ton of games when Troy was not at his best. When was the last time the Cowboys won a game Dak played poorly in?

Football is a team sport yet some people let everybody off the hook when Dallas loses and blames Dak. If you want to give him participation trophies for every win, maybe let some other players "participate" in the losses too.
 

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but in the past you called dan Marino a "Loser" and Trent Dilfer a "winner". nothing more or less. just those words.

are you changing the adjectives, and how you are describing them now. so now its Marino is a "Superbowl Loser".

just wanted to see how you are shifting your opinion. nothing wrong really.
Why are you obsessed with how I view guys? Lolololol

losers lose and winners win.

I don’t speak participation trophy and I certainly don’t care who you think is a winner or loser like you do me.
 

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What an in-depth analysis. A quarterback sucks unless he gets to the Super Bowl or a championship game.

So the NFL's elite QB's are Mahomes, Hurts, Allen, Burrow, followed by 28 pieces of garbage.

1. The Cowboys did not run the ball at all in the past two playoff losses to San Fran.
2. The offensive line played very poorly in those games as well. And they admit as much. The 49ers pushed them around and were more physical.
3. The past two years were the ONLY times Dak has had an elite defense. And some turnovers in the playoffs would have helped a ton too.

What Dak needs is a little more support from the rest of the team when he's going up against the best teams in the league. It doesn't mean he sucks. It means it takes a total team effort in the playoffs because there are no weak teams come January. The Cowboys' dynasty of the 1990's won a ton of games when Troy was not at his best. When was the last time the Cowboys won a game Dak played poorly in?

Football is a team sport yet some people let everybody off the hook when Dallas loses and blames Dak. If you want to give him participation trophies for every win, maybe let some other players "participate" in the losses too.
Just say you don’t believe Dak is good enough, bro.

Why fake believe in him?
 

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no, I don't agree. these talkign heads respond to what they think will get them clicks. if you are not controversial in someway, then nobody cares. they pick a polarizing topic. and they take a side, then they change sides.

there are more people who think Dak is a good QB, than those who think he sucks. but anything Dallas, gets attention.

Collinsworth said it out loud. if NBC could, they would have Dallas on TV for 17 games.
That is what I thought.

Sports talking heads simply repeat what they read what ordinary people, such as you and I, discuss topic wise online or in public. There is one difference. Sports talking heads get paid to converse about the exact same topics. So to answer your question:

so sportings talking heads are smarter? but GMs, Coaches, FO personnel are not?
Answer: yes they are. Getting compensated for saying stuff 'everyone' has already been talking about is smarter. 'We' do it for free. 'They' do not.

Now, the misunderstanding is due to something much more than I commented about. I was not talking about general managers, coaches, front office personnel, etc. Additionally, I was not referring to Dak Prescott and that daily rabbit hole.

All of my 'talking sports head' comments are stated in highlighting what that sports media niche industry does. And I do not say it as a reflex to something said just about the Dallas Cowboys but for practically everything it generates for public consumption.

or were you being sarcastic.
Was I being sarcastic? Partially, yes. I am not as into the Steven A. Smiths, Colin Cowherds or their peers as others may be. It does not concern me when I do not see or hear their commentary. They rarely say or predetermine anything fundamentally unknown to everyone else in or outside their audience. That said, I do not mind if I am hearing their babble IF the camera is simultaneously focused on a Molly Qerim or a Kay Adams or a Joy Taylor. Why? For obvious reasons. Or I hope those celebrity exceptions can be interpreted as obvious at least.
 

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Why are you obsessed with how I view guys? Lolololol

losers lose and winners win.

I don’t speak participation trophy and I certainly don’t care who you think is a winner or loser like you do me.
not obsessed. asked a simple question and you are blowing your top.

so I guess if by any chance Dak makes it to the superbowl he is in the Dan marino and burros club.

but you are hoping and wanting for Dallas to lose. am I right? I mean you said, you want dallas to lose with Dak. that was your wish.
 

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That is what I thought.

Sports talking heads simply repeat what they read what ordinary people, such as you and I, discuss topic wise online or in public. There is one difference. Sports talking heads get paid to converse about the exact same topics. So to answer your question:


Answer: yes they are. Getting compensated for saying stuff 'everyone' has already been talking about is smarter. 'We' do it for free. 'They' do not.

Now, the misunderstanding is due to something much more than I commented about. I was not talking about general managers, coaches, front office personnel, etc. Additionally, I was not referring to Dak Prescott and that daily rabbit hole.

All of my 'talking sports head' comments are stated in highlighting what that sports media niche industry does. And I do not say it as a reflex to something said just about the Dallas Cowboys but for practically everything it generates for public consumption.


Was I being sarcastic? Partially, yes. I am not as into the Steven A. Smiths, Colin Cowherds or their peers as others may be. It does not concern me when I do not see or hear their commentary. They rarely say or predetermine anything fundamentally unknown to everyone else in or outside their audience. That said, I do not mind if I am hearing their babble IF the camera is simultaneously focused on a Molly Qerim or a Kay Adams or a Joy Taylor. Why? For obvious reasons. Or I hope those celebrity exceptions can be interpreted as obvious at least.
ok, maybe I misunderstood when you said smart, as in smarter about football, but smarter as they have figured out how to monetize a topic. yes, wish I was like that too.
 

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Just say you don’t believe Dak is good enough, bro.

Why fake believe in him?
Because I watched Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco win Super Bowls. I have seen QB's like Stan Humphries, Chris Chandler, Kerry Collins, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, and Rex Grossman GET to Super Bowls.

I would take Dak over any of them. That's not fake belief. He's good enough in the right situation to win it all. He's not a QB like Mahomes that can do it by himself but how many QB's are?
 

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I work form home, have the tv on in the background very often. Every show on both ESPN and FS1 have a Cowboys topic every single day. They may or may not talk Eagles, Chiefs, Bills etc but darn sure every show, every day spends time on Dallas. Wash, rinse, repeat
 

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not obsessed. asked a simple question and you are blowing your top.

so I guess if by any chance Dak makes it to the superbowl he is in the Dan marino and burros club.

but you are hoping and wanting for Dallas to lose. am I right? I mean you said, you want dallas to lose with Dak. that was your wish.
Dak will NEVER make it to the SuperBowl unless he’s a back up somewhere.
 

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Because I watched Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco win Super Bowls. I have seen QB's like Stan Humphries, Chris Chandler, Kerry Collins, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, and Rex Grossman GET to Super Bowls.

I would take Dak over any of them. That's not fake belief. He's good enough in the right situation to win it all. He's not a QB like Mahomes that can do it by himself but how many QB's are?
The right situation is for him to be carried, right?

Thats not going to happen. He’s been carried as far as he can be. Whenever it’s his turn to something, anything, he fails miserably every single time.

He’s at year 8. He is who he is. Dak would’ve failed in the position of all those QBs you named above because that’s how Dak is built .
 

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ok, maybe I misunderstood when you said smart, as in smarter about football, but smarter as they have figured out how to monetize a topic. yes, wish I was like that too.
Just think of some stuff we have posted on this site over time and it sounded or read better than what Cowherd ranted on his show. NOW think of the millions he has made simply because he has the charisma and oratory talent for twisting a self-crafted narrative.

M-I-L-L-I-O-N-S...

Then think of what exactly he has ever taught anyone.

Some people say I have a good speaking voice. And I read peoples thoughts about sports all the time. Just saying. :muttley:
 

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By every measurable metric Dak has been one of the most productive, efficient, and successful quarterbacks in the NFL since he was drafted.
Except for playoffs. There he has been a stinker. And also you are not factoring how much the game has changed rules wise. Most of the top stats guys are playing right now, or in the recent past.

Just like the guy trying to compare Aikman and Dak stats without the context of how the game changed or how the team had to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch in Aikman's rookie year.
 

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Just think of some stuff we have posted on this site over time and it sounded or read better than what Cowherd ranted on his show. NOW think of the millions he has made simply because he has the charisma and oratory talent for twisting a self-crafted narrative.

M-I-L-L-I-O-N-S...

Then think of what exactly he has ever taught anyone.

Some people say I have a good speaking voice. And I read peoples thoughts about sports all the time. Just saying. :muttley:
what!?

so he got here because of chrisma and self crafted narrative.

hmmm, interesting. there is a lot of anger in your statement.

so do you have the same opinion of Geno Smith? or Lamar Jackson? Kirk Cousins? Carr?

btw, interesting comment regarding him teaching someone. is it his job to teach anything to anyone?
 
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