Sasquatch - Draft 1.0

[Sasquatch]

Obviously, any mock draft prior to FA signings and the combines is mere speculation, but that doesn't prevent it from being fun.

1a. Reggie Smith, CB/S, Oklahoma - We need help at CB and S so why not kill two birds with one stone? Talented junior projects at either position and is a good value here.

1b. Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana - Whoa, shades of the 2000 draft? Our defense's greatest weakness happens to be this draft's strongest positionso why not take advantage of it? Porter is super fast, makes plays on the ball and actually intercepts them, and is aggressive in the running game. What's there not to like?

2. Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St. - Possesses excellent size and speed and makes place with the ball a la you know who. Has the potential to develop into a solid number 1 receiver after some seasoning and should be able to contribute immediately as a number 3 should Glenn not return and Stanback not live up to his billing. Good place to draft a WR in my opinion.

3. Darnell Savage, RB, Oklahoma St. - One thing Parcells left us with is a lack of team speed. Savage is very fast, can be an every down back if need be, and is good at catching the ball out of the backfield. I know, I know, Mendenhall, Stewart, et al. look very attractive in the first round, but with MBIII about to sign a fat contract I think it's likely we look for a compliment in rounds 2 or 3. I think Savage would provide some much-needed speed and homerun potential in the backfield.

4. Ezra Butler, OLB, Nevada - Most people are clamoring for ILB to replace Akin but we already have Burnett and Carpenter. I like Butler for his ability to get to the QB and speed to cover receivers in the short passing game. He can back up Ware and compete for one of the ILB spots in a year or two.

5. Shannon Tevaga, OG, ULCA - I'm unhappy with our inconsistent running game so it's time to bring in some beefy interior linemen to see if they can help remedy the problem. Kosier has been a nice FA pick up but we need to get bigger and more physical in that guard position. Hopefully, Tevaga, who has been a fixture on the Bruins like for the past three seasons, will provide that in a year or so.

6. Robbie Krutilla, C, Western Michigan - Was anyone frightened when Gurode went down? Krutilla is a very big man who we might as well bring in to audition for a back-up C. 3-year starter.

7. Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas - Out for the year with a knee injury. Jerry takes a chance in the hopes that he finds another Canty.

 

[dallasfan]

If we take 2 CBs in rd 1 I'd be pissed

 

[Sasquatch]

If we take 2 CBs in rd 1 I'd be pissed

Dwayne Goodrich and Kareem Larrimore anyone?

 

[Oh_Canada]

If you're going to draft multiple corners...you better not blow the wad in the first round. Reggie Smith or Antoine Cason in the first and someone like Jack Williams or Al Phillips later on would be fine.

 

[Sasquatch]

If you're going to draft multiple corners...you better not blow the wad in the first round. Reggie Smith or Antoine Cason in the first and someone like Jack Williams or Al Phillips later on would be fine.

I forget where I read it but statistically the best round to draft an impact corner is the first round. Not so with impact players in other positions (WR and RB, for example).

 

[DaBoys4Life]

IF we go 2 CB's in the first which I doubt we would prob go Leodis MCkelvin and Agib Talib. Tracy Porters projected 2-3 round for you to have us pick him in the first is reaching really hard and not worth it for his pick. I think we go

1A Agib Talib CB Kansas
1b Frank Okam DT Texas
2 Chris Johnson RB ECU
3 Tavares Gooden ILD UM
4 Tony Hills OT Texas
5 Dantrell Savage RB OKSTU
6 Kirston Pittman DE LSU
7 Josh Morgan WR VT

 

[dallasfan]

Dwayne Goodrich and Kareem Larrimore anyone?

they were 2nd and 4th rd picks. and CB was a way bigger need then, than now.

 

[Sasquatch]

IF we go 2 CB's in the first which I doubt we would prob go Leodis MCkelvin and Agib Talib. Tracy Porters projected 2-3 round for you to have us pick him in the first is reaching really hard and not worth it for his pick. I think we go

I think Porter's stock will rise after the all-star games and the combine. What I like about him is his speed and agility which makes him a better prospect in terms of covering slot receivers man-to-man than Talib who is rightfully enjoying much press these days. Mind you, I don't necessarily think it will actually go down like this, but I don't think the scenario is completely outlandish considering our needs in the secondary and our draft position.

 

[Sasquatch]

they were 2nd and 4th rd picks. and CB was a way bigger need then, than now.

I know. But as far as present needs are concerned, I think DB, which comprises five positions, is a huge need that should be addressed via free agency and the draft. God forbid if we loose one of our starters at either CB or S for the season. We need a talent infusion at those positions, although in all honesty I do think two DBs in the first round is unlikely.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I think Porter's stock will rise after the all-star games and the combine. What I like about him is his speed and agility which makes him a better prospect in terms of covering slot receivers man-to-man than Talib who is rightfully enjoying much press these days. Mind you, I don't necessarily think it will actually go down like this, but I don't think the scenario is completely outlandish considering our needs in the secondary and our draft position.

Newman plays the slot receiver man to man unless you don't expect newman back. I would prefer Leodis MCkelvin as a second corner over him his stock will jump but i doubt he jump over the CB's thats projected over him.

 

[ayjackson]

Obviously, any mock draft prior to FA signings and the combines is mere speculation, but that doesn't prevent it from being fun.

1a. Reggie Smith, CB/S, Oklahoma - We need help at CB and S so why not kill two birds with one stone? Talented junior projects at either position and is a good value here.

1b. Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana - Whoa, shades of the 2000 draft? Our defense's greatest weakness happens to be this draft's strongest positionso why not take advantage of it? Porter is super fast, makes plays on the ball and actually intercepts them, and is aggressive in the running game. What's there not to like?

2. Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St. - Possesses excellent size and speed and makes place with the ball a la you know who. Has the potential to develop into a solid number 1 receiver after some seasoning and should be able to contribute immediately as a number 3 should Glenn not return and Stanback not live up to his billing. Good place to draft a WR in my opinion.

3. Darnell Savage, RB, Oklahoma St. - One thing Parcells left us with is a lack of team speed. Savage is very fast, can be an every down back if need be, and is good at catching the ball out of the backfield. I know, I know, Mendenhall, Stewart, et al. look very attractive in the first round, but with MBIII about to sign a fat contract I think it's likely we look for a compliment in rounds 2 or 3. I think Savage would provide some much-needed speed and homerun potential in the backfield.

4. Ezra Butler, OLB, Nevada - Most people are clamoring for ILB to replace Akin but we already have Burnett and Carpenter. I like Butler for his ability to get to the QB and speed to cover receivers in the short passing game. He can back up Ware and compete for one of the ILB spots in a year or two.

5. Shannon Tevaga, OG, ULCA - I'm unhappy with our inconsistent running game so it's time to bring in some beefy interior linemen to see if they can help remedy the problem. Kosier has been a nice FA pick up but we need to get bigger and more physical in that guard position. Hopefully, Tevaga, who has been a fixture on the Bruins like for the past three seasons, will provide that in a year or so.

6. Robbie Krutilla, C, Western Michigan - Was anyone frightened when Gurode went down? Krutilla is a very big man who we might as well bring in to audition for a back-up C. 3-year starter.

7. Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas - Out for the year with a knee injury. Jerry takes a chance in the hopes that he finds another Canty.

I would be pretty happy if it went down like this. I have no problem going for two DB's in the first if the talent is available - and would appear to be. I agree that the second round is the place to get a WR. And if we got Ezra Butler in the fourth, it would be icing on the cake. I think Ezra would be gone by our pick in the fourth, but if he was on the board at our third, I would snap him up.

 

[Sasquatch]

I think Ezra would be gone by our pick in the fourth, but if he was on the board at our third, I would snap him up.

You're probably right there. There is some wishing involved in these things.

 

[dallasfan]

I know. But as far as present needs are concerned, I think DB, which comprises five positions, is a huge need that should be addressed via free agency and the draft. God forbid if we loose one of our starters at either CB or S for the season. We need a talent infusion at those positions, although in all honesty I do think two DBs in the first round is unlikely.

God Forbid Marion Barber gets hurt, do you want to depend on Darnell Savage? We're not that bad at DB.

I'm fine starting Newman and Henry at corner and Hamlin and Williams at safety. Nickel CB does need to be addressed, but Reeves/Jones/1 2nd day pck will be a fine 4th corner and Watkins, K.Davis and C.Brown are good depth at safety.

 

[Sasquatch]

God Forbid Marion Barber gets hurt, do you want to depend on Darnell Savage? We're not that bad at DB.

I'm fine starting Newman and Henry at corner and Hamlin and Williams at safety. Nickel CB does need to be addressed, but Reeves/Jones/1 2nd day pck will be a fine 4th corner and Watkins, K.Davis and C.Brown are good depth at safety.

I don't think any of us can predict how a college player is going to perform in the pros. Who would have thought that Maurice Drew-Jones would turn out to be the player he is? I think Savage will be all right.

My ultimate point is that, as tempting as it is to go RB in the first round, (hey, I would LOVE to have Mendenhall), we can get a good to above average back later rounds for cheaper. MBIIIs contract is the clincher, in my opinion. Besides, historically, DBs drafted after the first round have a much lower chance of being impact players than WRs or RBs.

Obviously, I have much less confidence in our secondary than you do. The NFL is a passing league and four-five receiver sets are not uncommon. It's a critical position and with the talent available in this year's draft we could potentially drastically improve our secondary, providing insurance against possible injuries and acquiring eventual replacements for our current starters.

 

[dallasfan]

we can get a good to above average back later rounds for cheaper. MBIIIs contract is the clincher, in my opinion.

Mid to late first rounders don't make big $$$. Atleast not big enough to consider price when drafting one.

Besides, historically, DBs drafted after the first round have a much lower chance of being impact players than WRs or RBs.

Yeah but do we need a first rd CB to play 4th CB? Draft picks are like gold and it's overkill to draft 2 CBs in the first when you have a pro-bowler and a solid starter. Plenty of good CBs can be found later as well so there's no need to grab to in the first rd.

Obviously, I have much less confidence in our secondary than you do. The NFL is a passing league and four-five receiver sets are not uncommon. It's a critical position and with the talent available in this year's draft we could potentially drastically improve our secondary, providing insurance against possible injuries and acquiring eventual replacements for our current starters.

The last 2 games make it obvious to me we lack speed on offense without TO. Marion Barber had what 1 yard vs washington? He doesn't hit the hole fast enough to beat 8 man fronts, which all we'll ever face if our best WR is Patrick Crayton. While we do need a CB, and we probably should address that first we need some more speed on offense

 

[Sasquatch]

Mid to late first rounders don't make big $$$. Atleast not big enough to consider price when drafting one.

I just don't think we need to draft a super stud RB to share carries with the Barbarian when we could find someone to fill that role just as competently in rounds 2 or 3.

Trust me, I won't be complaining if we nab Mendenhall or Stewart in the first round. I'm just proposing an alternative scenario for the sake of discussion.

Yeah but do we need a first rd CB to play 4th CB? Draft picks are like gold and it's overkill to draft 2 CBs in the first when you have a pro-bowler and a solid starter. Plenty of good CBs can be found later as well so there's no need to grab to in the first rd.

By the end of the year, one of them will be our starting third CB and both will see playing time in the nickel and in the event of injuries. If the DB class sucks the next two years and we continue to draft low, we'll be happy we grabbed two top flight shut-down types when we had the opportunity.

The last 2 games make it obvious to me we lack speed on offense without TO. Marion Barber had what 1 yard vs washington? He doesn't hit the hole fast enough to beat 8 man fronts, which all we'll ever face if our best WR is Patrick Crayton. While we do need a CB, and we probably should address that first we need some more speed on offense

I totally agree. That why I drafted Thomas and Savage both of whom possess game-breaking speed. I like Chris Johnson, too, but I think end of first may be too high and end of second too low.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I just don't think we need to draft a super stud RB to share carries with the Barbarian when we could find someone to fill that role just as competently in rounds 2 or 3.

Trust me, I won't be complaining if we nab Mendenhall or Stewart in the first round. I'm just proposing an alternative scenario for the sake of discussion.

I disagree i think the better the RB the better it is for our team as a whole. Not only is the running back that we draft going to be the replacement for JJ but very the replacement for MB3. If Barber carries go up when can expect the chance of injury to go up also. That why i feel we get 2 RB's in the first day,

 

[jakeblaze+]

I disagree i think the better the RB the better it is for our team as a whole. Not only is the running back that we draft going to be the replacement for JJ but very the replacement for MB3. If Barber carries go up when can expect the chance of injury to go up also. That why i feel we get 2 RB's in the first day,

we won't draft to RB's on the first day even if this year did include the 3rd Rd.
A RB in the 1st or 2nd and maybe another one in the 4th, 5th, or 6th.

 

[dallasfan]

I just don't think we need to draft a super stud RB to share carries with the Barbarian when we could find someone to fill that role just as competently in rounds 2 or 3.

Right. Super Stud = McFadden. While I think Medenhall/Stewart would be great for us, they aren't super studs. And waiting late to get a RB is risky. If we need the position and there is a guy there worth the pick, you take him. What happens if there is a run of RBs right before we pick in rd 2 and we miss out?

Trust me, I won't be complaining if we nab Mendenhall or Stewart in the first round. I'm just proposing an alternative scenario for the sake of discussion.

Even if we passed on the RBs and went WR/CB with the two #1s, I'd be content. IMO, 2 CBs is overkill.

By the end of the year, one of them will be our starting third CB and both will see playing time in the nickel and in the event of injuries. If the DB class sucks the next two years and we continue to draft low, we'll be happy we grabbed two top flight shut-down types when we had the opportunity.

Well I would hope at the start of the season one would be the #3 CB. And there are good CBs available every year. No matter where we pick in rd 1, we can always grab one S.Brown was a 2nd in 02', R.Mathis was a 2nd in 03', Nathan Vasher was a 4th in 04' (cover 2 guy so I'll give you a slight pass). All these guys have made Pro-Bowls and are arguably the best CB from their class.

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[DaBoys4Life]

we won't draft to RB's on the first day even if this year did include the 3rd Rd.
A RB in the 1st or 2nd and maybe another one in the 4th, 5th, or 6th.

if we go 1st and 4th thats 2 RB's in the first day.