Sasquatch - Draft 1.0

[burmafrd]

Talib is just not fast enough for the NFL. At least not for what we need.
In todays NFL, when you are looking at 3 WR sets almost half the time, you basically need 3 starting CBs. We have 2. Reeves is ok but that is all. The young guys have not shown enough to count on to even replace reeves at this point. Taking 2 in the first rd would actually make sense. I would go with Porter and Mckelvin, or maybe Cason.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Talib is just not fast enough for the NFL. At least not for what we need.
In todays NFL, when you are looking at 3 WR sets almost half the time, you basically need 3 starting CBs. We have 2. Reeves is ok but that is all. The young guys have not shown enough to count on to even replace reeves at this point. Taking 2 in the first rd would actually make sense. I would go with Porter and Mckelvin, or maybe Cason.

where do you get this from ????

Theres normally a big drop from a team's number 1 CB to there number 2 CB.

The only team with a 2 really good corners is Ravens you could make a case for GB but consider how AL Harris looked against us i doubt it and maybe the Broncos but thats a reach also.

 

[jakeblaze+]

if we go 1st and 4th thats 2 RB's in the first day.

By first day I'm assuming you mean Day 1 of the draft as in the 1st and 2nd rd. Day 2 of the draft would consist of the 3rd through 7th rounds. So, I'm not disagreeing with you that we may draft 2 Rb's, but we will not draft a RB in the 1st Rd and another one in the 2nd Rd; that would be the 1st day.

 

[dmoore]

I've had a number of classes with Robbie Krutilla since we have the same major. He's a pretty nice guy, and he's absolutely huge. Haven't seen him play a whole lot, but from what I have heard is that he's one of the best lineman in the MAC.

 

[Sasquatch]

I've had a number of classes with Robbie Krutilla since we have the same major. He's a pretty nice guy, and he's absolutely huge. Haven't seen him play a whole lot, but from what I have heard is that he's one of the best lineman in the MAC.

Be sure to tell him that I have him going to Cowboys. He should be elated.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

By first day I'm assuming you mean Day 1 of the draft as in the 1st and 2nd rd. Day 2 of the draft would consist of the 3rd through 7th rounds. So, I'm not disagreeing with you that we may draft 2 Rb's, but we will not draft a RB in the 1st Rd and another one in the 2nd Rd; that would be the 1st day.

it does i thought first day was rounds 1-4 but i could be wrong

 

[Bob Sacamano]

it does i thought first day was rounds 1-4 but i could be wrong

the 4th round was never the 1st day, at least it hasn't been that way since I can remember

I don't know if the proposal went through, but this year they put in a proposal where they wanted to shorten the 1st day to 2 rounds, and a 10 minute time limit instead of 15 for the 1st round, and the 2nd round would be 7 minutes or something like that, and so on

 

[burmafrd]

ANYONE who does not realize that you need at LEAST 3 good CBs in the pass happy NFL of today is totally BLIND.

 

[dallasfan]

ANYONE who does not realize that you need at LEAST 3 good CBs in the pass happy NFL of today is totally BLIND.

I don't think anyone is against drafting a CB, but two is too much

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think anyone is against drafting a CB, but two is too much

I agree I would not use both 1st rd picks on CB's

 

[Sasquatch]

I don't think anyone is against drafting a CB, but two is too much

Bear in mind that Smith projects at Safety, too. Interim CB and eventually replacement for Williams or Hamlin.

I don't think the first two picks are redundant at all, especially since both positions have been perennial needs for the past few years.

Still, I tend to agree it's unlikely, but I don't think the strategy is as outlandish as some here think.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

I am a big fan of Tracy Porter but I don't see him going in the 1st rd. Malcolm Jenkins, Mike Jenkins, Antione Cason, Aqib Talib and Leodis Mckelvin are all better prospects IMO.

I also think we will chose 2 corners early but not in the 1st rd. Maybe one in the 1st an another in the 3rd or 4th. My dream draft would look like this:

1st Antoine Cason
1st Early Doucett
2nd Chris Johnson(trade up)
3rd Tracy Porter
4th Jarod Mayo
5th BPA
6th BPA
7th BPA

 

[dallasfan]

Bear in mind that Smith projects at Safety, too. Interim CB and eventually replacement for Williams or Hamlin.

I don't think the first two picks are redundant at all, especially since both positions have been perennial needs for the past few years.

Still, I tend to agree it's unlikely, but I don't think the strategy is as outlandish as some here think.

yeah he could be a safety, but Hamlin is a pro-bowler and pretty young. If we don't resign him, which would be a huge mistake, then I could see us drafting Smith and a CB, but unless we're cutting RW, which would also be a mistake imo, there's no point in drafting a safety at all. Keith Davis is a fine back-up (yeah I know he's a FA) and Pat Watkins has shown enough imo to keep us from drafting a FS of the future. And Courtney Brown is a wild card.

 

[Sasquatch]

yeah he could be a safety, but Hamlin is a pro-bowler and pretty young. If we don't resign him, which would be a huge mistake, then I could see us drafting Smith and a CB, but unless we're cutting RW, which would also be a mistake imo, there's no point in drafting a safety at all. Keith Davis is a fine back-up (yeah I know he's a FA) and Pat Watkins has shown enough imo to keep us from drafting a FS of the future. And Courtney Brown is a wild card.

I see this draft as strengthening both our CB and S positions/depth.

We agree that we need to improve our third corner. But the second corner is also something to be concerned about. A. Henry has missed 3 games 2 out of 3 seasons with us, his contract expires in two seasons, and we could release him after next year without taking a huge financial hit should his play be eclipsed by a younger player.

Roy W is also signed only until 2010.

In two years time at the latest, both of these guys will probably be starters. That's all you can ask for in the draft.

 

[dallasfan]

I see this draft as strengthening both our CB and S positions/depth.

We agree that we need to improve our third corner. But the second corner is also something to be concerned about. A. Henry has missed 3 games 2 out of 3 seasons with us, his contract expires in two seasons, and we could release him after next year without taking a huge financial hit should his play be eclipsed by a younger player.

Roy W is also signed only until 2010.

In two years time at the latest, both of these guys will probably be starters. That's all you can ask for in the draft.

If RW is under contract till 2010, then thats 3 years. This is the 2007 season, so he still has 2008', 2009' and 2010'.

And I agree that who ever we draft should be someone who can be a starter in 2 years assuming Henry walks, but I'd wait and add another CB when Henry leaves. We could always resign him as the #3 or like I pointed out, pro-bowl corners can be found after rd 1, not to mention solid guys like Ken Lucas were also drafted after rd 1.

 

[Sasquatch]

If RW is under contract till 2010, then thats 3 years. This is the 2007 season, so he still has 2008', 2009' and 2010'.

And I agree that who ever we draft should be someone who can be a starter in 2 years assuming Henry walks, but I'd wait and add another CB when Henry leaves. We could always resign him as the #3 or like I pointed out, pro-bowl corners can be found after rd 1, not to mention solid guys like Ken Lucas were also drafted after rd 1.

Thanks for the remedial math lesson. Doh!



Okay, but remember that both Henry and TNew were injured this year, and TNew isn't exactly a youngin, having been a 25 year old rookie.

God forbid if we loose one of our starting DBs (at either position) for the year. There's quite a drop in talent from our first to second stringers.

I wonder how Ball and Brown are developing.

I'm eager to see what FA signings we make to better gauge our draft needs.

 

[dallasfan]

Thanks for the remedial math lesson. Doh!



Okay, but remember that both Henry and TNew were injured this year, and TNew isn't exactly a youngin, having been a 25 year old rookie.

God forbid if we loose one of our starting DBs (at either position) for the year. There's quite a drop in talent from our first to second stringers.

I wonder how Ball and Brown are developing.

I'm eager to see what FA signings we make to better gauge our draft needs.

Like I said earlier, injuries are unpredictable. TO and Crayton could both get hurt so do we draft 2 WRs in rd1. I'd actually like for us to possibly sign Shawn Springs to be the #3 CB, then still take a CB in rd1, probably at 31 though. As far as WR goes, I' be interested in Laverneous Coles who plays very similar to Terry Glenn, but is younger (turned 30 like 2 weeks ago). Other than that I wouldn't sign anyone except our own guys or maybe a back-up QB

 

[ayjackson]

Our secondary has been a sore spot, this is a strong draft for CBs and we have an extra pick; I like the idea of picking off two cornerback's in the first four picks - especially if one could project at S as well.

 

[Sasquatch]

Anyone still think that bringing in two starting caliber DBs via the draft is a preposterous notion?

 

[DawnOfANewD]

Anyone still think that bringing in two starting caliber DBs via the draft is a preposterous notion?

What about signing one and drafting one? I've read Nnamdi Asomugha is going to opt out of his contract. Might be a decent pickup. Marcus Trufant is also a FA I think.