Saw Free Reign last night

[Audiman]

I'm not referring to Judas Priest Halford's won a Grammy. I'm talking about metalers like Marc Colombo who clearly can't sing.

how would you know? have you ever heard him try?

 

[MetalHead]

or Bruce Dickinson

long live Eddie!!

Up the Irons!
June 12 Iron Maiden @ At&t Center...yeah!

 

[KJJ]

I'm not saying all of them can. however, screaming isn't as easy as you think and you can't judge someone's singing ability on how they scream.

what I am saying is that you have no clue about what you're talking about.

Because I don't like heavy metal means I don't have a clue? I'm giving my opinion based off my personal taste in music. There's alot of people who don't like heavy metal and think yelling and screaming isn't singing. There's those out there who don't care for rock, country and classical to each their own. There's famous rock musicians who can't sing very well. Some of them wouldn't get past the audition on American Idol.

 

[KJJ]

how would you know? have you ever heard him try?

I've heard Colombo he tries but he can't sing. The only thing drawing any interest to Free Reign is the fact he and the rest of the band are all Dallas Cowboy players. No one would give a glance to Marty B's rap music if he didn't play for the Cowboys.

 

[KJJ]

there will be videos soon, as I sing karaoke a lot and we'll be filming for fun. I've been singing all my life, sang in show choir, church choir, all-state choir(only the best singers in the state get picked).

basically, I know what I'm talking about and you clearly don't.

You sing in your church choir and perform karaoke and that makes you an expert on singing?

 

[Audiman]

Because I don't like heavy metal means I don't have a clue? I'm giving my opinion based off my personal taste in music. There's alot of people who don't like heavy metal and think yelling and screaming isn't singing. There's those out there who don't care for rock, country and classical to each their own. There's famous rock musicians who can't sing very well. Some of them wouldn't get past the audition on American Idol.

no, you really don't know what you're talking about. it's crystal clear that you don't.

1. you're sort of correct in the fact that yelling and screaming isn't "singing". however, it is still a form of vocal music and does take talent to do it well.

2. you originally said people who scream can't sing. this is completely ridiculous and totally off base. I listed a few bands whose singers scream and sing very well. maybe you should check them out and get a little more knowledge.

 

[Audiman]

You sing in your church choir and perform karaoke and that makes you an expert on singing?

when you're chosen to be a part of a choir consisting of only the top singers in the state two years in a row, that gets your name put on the list of "good singers". not once have I ever said I'm an expert. however, everyone who's ever heard me sing has said I'm an awesome singer.

oddly enough, I play drums in the band I'm in and play guitar a bit too. I'm not an expert at them or singing, but I'm better than you.

 

[Audiman]

I've heard Colombo he tries but he can't sing. The only thing drawing any interest to Free Reign is the fact he and the rest of the band are all Dallas Cowboy players. No one would give a glance to Marty B's rap music if he didn't play for the Cowboys.

Really? you've heard Columbo really try to sing? I'm calling BS.

 

[Trendnet]

when you're chosen to be a part of a choir consisting of only the top singers in the state two years in a row, that gets your name put on the list of "good singers". not once have I ever said I'm an expert. however, everyone who's ever heard me sing has said I'm an awesome singer.

oddly enough, I play drums in the band I'm in and play guitar a bit too. I'm not an expert at them or singing, but I'm better than you.

I've heard that line many a time on American Idol...

 

[Audiman]

I've heard that line many a time on American Idol...

believe it or not. personally, I don't care what you or anyone on this site thinks of my singing, drumming, or guitar playing ability. nobody on this site has heard me, so nobody on this site can judge.

 

[MetalHead]

Because I don't like heavy metal means I don't have a clue? I'm giving my opinion based off my personal taste in music. There's alot of people who don't like heavy metal and think yelling and screaming isn't singing. There's those out there who don't care for rock, country and classical to each their own. There's famous rock musicians who can't sing very well. Some of them wouldn't get past the audition on American Idol.

Well based on what you have posted so far,and my wealth of knowledge in the subject matter,I'm more than convinced that you don't know what you are talking about.
I have been listening/playing heavy metal from the early 80's.
Rob Halford,Bruce Dickinson,Ronnie James Dio,Geoff Tate,all amazing singers.All display wide ranges and all are metal singers.
To post a blanket statement about heavy metal singers like that is plain silly.

 

[KJJ]

when you're chosen to be a part of a choir consisting of only the top singers in the state two years in a row, that gets your name put on the list of "good singers". not once have I ever said I'm an expert. however, everyone who's ever heard me sing has said I'm an awesome singer.

oddly enough, I play drums in the band I'm in and play guitar a bit too. I'm not an expert at them or singing, but I'm better than you.

Singing in a church choir is a little different than performing heavy metal. Naturally friends and family are going to compliment your singing they don't want to hurt your feelings. : It's friends and family who cause some of these duds to show up auditioning for American Idol thinking they can actually sing. Notice how stunned some of them look when they're told they suck? LOL

I'm not an expert at them or singing, but I'm better than you.

You don't know anything about whether I can sing or not. You don't know anything about me period. LOL If you're such an awesome choir singer you should show up for your American Idol audition and perform "All The Way My Savior Leads Me" and see how well that goes over.

 

[KJJ]

Well based on what you have posted so far,and my wealth of knowledge in the subject matter,I'm more than convinced that you don't know what you are talking about.
I have been listening/playing heavy metal from the early 80's.
Rob Halford,Bruce Dickinson,Ronnie James Dio,Geoff Tate,all amazing singers.All display wide ranges and all are metal singers.
To post a blanket statement about heavy metal singers like that is plain silly.

I never claimed to be an expert on heavy metal I've heard it and it's just not my thing. Obviously with a username like "MetalHead" you're going to take exception to my views. This is another one of those topics that's based on opinion and a persons taste in music. The views I gave were for some of these new crap heavy metal bands like Free Reign. Does anyone honestly think they would have been offered a record deal if they weren't members of the Dallas Cowboys? That's what gave them their recognition and got their foot in the door. That alone will get fans to buy their records just out of curiosity. The only reason I listened to some of their crap is because I'm a Cowboy fan. LOL John Daly a famous PGA tour player sings at clubs. He has an AWFUL voice but he can draw an audience because of his fame as a golfer. It's like these women who get involved in these sex scandals with famous people. Penthouse and Playboy will offer these women millions to pose nude even if they're not all that hot because people will buy the issue just out of curiosity.

 

[KJJ]

no, you really don't know what you're talking about. it's crystal clear that you don't.



2. you originally said people who scream can't sing. this is completely ridiculous and totally off base. I listed a few bands whose singers scream and sing very well. maybe you should check them out and get a little more knowledge.

You better go back and carefully review my comments because I never said people who scream can't sing. I said "You don't have to be able to sing to do heavy metal just scream." Which is the truth if you listen to some of these new heavy metal bands. If you would read my comments carefully maybe you would understand what I'm talking about. No wonder nothing I'm saying is crystal clear to you. Mariah Carey has a screech but she can sing. An occasional scream, rasp or grind doesn't mean someone can't sing. The "new" heavy metal singers do nothing but scream at least the ones I've heard. I bet most of them couldn't sing the National Anthem. You find out who can sing and who can't during the National Anthem. Even some good singers choose to lip sync the National Anthem. I'm not going to do research on all the heavy metal singers to see who can actually sing because I could care less. There's many who can't sing care to deny that? The ones who get through the audition stage of a American Idol can sing.

 

[KJJ]

You find out if a singer can actually "sing" when they perform live. All singers sound good in studio recordings but some sound like crap live. Here's Elvis screaming and rasping his way through Jailhouse Rock which proves singing and screaming can be incorporated into a great song.


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[Audiman]

Singing in a church choir is a little different than performing heavy metal. Naturally friends and family are going to compliment your singing they don't want to hurt your feelings. : It's friends and family who cause some of these duds to show up auditioning for American Idol thinking they can actually sing. Notice how stunned some of them look when they're told they suck? LOL

You don't know anything about whether I can sing or not. You don't know anything about me period. LOL If you're such an awesome choir singer you should show up for your American Idol audition and perform "All The Way My Savior Leads Me" and see how well that goes over.

you don't know anything about me at all either. however, I'll put money down that I'm a better singer than you. I have people(not friends) come up to me after songs all the time and tell me I'm good. Same thing goes for vocal coaches, but hey, what do they know about singing?

also, I don't give a flying **** about American Idol. I don't watch it, I don't vote, I don't listen to people's conversations about it. it's not the "end all, be all" of singing.

 

[KJJ]

you don't know anything about me at all either. however, I'll put money down that I'm a better singer than you. I have people(not friends) come up to me after songs all the time and tell me I'm good. Same thing goes for vocal coaches, but hey, what do they know about singing?

also, I don't give a flying **** about American Idol. I don't watch it, I don't vote, I don't listen to people's conversations about it. it's not the "end all, be all" of singing.

I never came on here claiming I could sing I'm no singer/musician but I know alot of them. I sound great in the shower or anywhere where there's a good echo. My rendition of American Pie in my sauna would bring a tear to your eye. If you're such a good singer go become a Youtube sensation or do a live stream on Stickam.

 

[Audiman]

I never came on here claiming I could sing I'm no singer/musician but I know alot of them. I sound great in the shower or anywhere where there's a good echo. My rendition of American Pie in my sauna would bring a tear to your eye. If you're such a good singer go become a Youtube sensation or do a live stream on Stickam.

do you have the same BS comebacks for everything? "go put a video on youtube", "go try out for American Idol".

you came on here criticizing singers or metal bands and acting like you knew everything. you got proven wrong and made a fool of. just admit that you were wrong. it's that simple.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Being accepted on American Idol is not the mark of who is a great singer. It's all politics.

 

[KJJ]

do you have the same BS comebacks for everything? "go put a video on youtube", "go try out for American Idol".

you came on here criticizing singers or metal bands and acting like you knew everything. you got proven wrong and made a fool of. just admit that you were wrong. it's that simple.

I don't use the same comebacks for everything I stick with the theme. I was just giving you some suggestions on how to draw an audience instead having to sing in front of your family and pets. : I said you don't have to be able to sing to do heavy metal just scream. I should have added and be able to play because most of them can do that. Metal heads probably don't care if they can't sing as long as their music is loud enough to drown out their screaming. You seem to think because you sing karaoke and in a church choir that makes you an authority on heavy metal bands. Dude it's all a matter of personal taste in music. It's fans who make or break all of them. I don't care how weird sounding or strange a musician is if they have a following someone's going to want to manage them. There's an audience for heavy metal, punk, new wave, pop, rock, disco, country and classical. What sounds good to me may not sound good you and vice versa.

Not every singer has a good voice. Jimi Hendrix wasn't a great a singer but he was a great guitarist and that's what made him. Bob Dylan never had a great voice but it's the songs he wrote that put him on the map. All singer/entertainers are going to receive some criticism if their singing isn't up to par, their acting isn't very good or if some fans simply don't like their style. If they can't handle some criticism they're in the wrong business. There isn't anyone of them out there who hasn't had a door slammed in their face at least once in their life.