Saw Free Reign last night

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KJJ;3309761 said:
I don't use the same comebacks for everything I stick with the theme. I was just giving you some suggestions on how to draw an audience instead having to sing in front of your family and pets. :p: I said you don't have to be able to sing to do heavy metal just scream. I should have added and be able to play because most of them can do that. Metal heads probably don't care if they can't sing as long as their music is loud enough to drown out their screaming. You seem to think because you sing karaoke and in a church choir that makes you an authority on heavy metal bands. :rolleyes: Dude it's all a matter of personal taste in music. It's fans who make or break all of them. I don't care how weird sounding or strange a musician is if they have a following someone's going to want to manage them. There's an audience for heavy metal, punk, new wave, pop, rock, disco, country and classical. What sounds good to me may not sound good you and vice versa.

Not every singer has a good voice. Jimi Hendrix wasn't a great a singer but he was a great guitarist and that's what made him. Bob Dylan never had a great voice but it's the songs he wrote that put him on the map. All singer/entertainers are going to receive some criticism if their singing isn't up to par, their acting isn't very good or if some fans simply don't like their style. If they can't handle some criticism they're in the wrong business. There isn't anyone of them out there who hasn't had a door slammed in their face at least once in their life.

1. I've been singing in front of crowds since I was a little kid. I've been drumming in front of crowds for well over 10 years now. some people do come to karaoke to see me, some people ask me to sing with them, some parents ask me to listen to their kids and give them pointers. I'll let that speak for itself.

2. I never said me singing in a choir or karaoke makes me an authority for heavy metal. however, I do sing some songs that involve both screaming and singing. I'm pretty sure the fact that I know how to do both very well makes me an authority for metal.

3. yep, different people have different tastes in music. just because YOU don't like metal doesn't give you an authority to rag on their singing ability/style. why? because clearly, you have no idea about what you're talking about.
 

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Audiman;3310104 said:
1. I've been singing in front of crowds since I was a little kid. I've been drumming in front of crowds for well over 10 years now. some people do come to karaoke to see me, some people ask me to sing with them, some parents ask me to listen to their kids and give them pointers. I'll let that speak for itself.

2. I never said me singing in a choir or karaoke makes me an authority for heavy metal. however, I do sing some songs that involve both screaming and singing. I'm pretty sure the fact that I know how to do both very well makes me an authority for metal.

3. yep, different people have different tastes in music. just because YOU don't like metal doesn't give you an authority to rag on their singing ability/style. why? because clearly, you have no idea about what you're talking about.


Singing in front of crowds your entire life doesn't give you the authority to rag on other peoples opinion of Free Reign or any other heavy metal band. Until you have a record deal that can be verified don't tell me or anyone else they don't know what they're talking about simply because you don't agree with their opinion and think singing karaoke and in a choir makes you an expert. Every music fan out there who buys music and concert tickets has the right to give their opinion on a particular band or style of music. The guy who started this thread was critical of Colombo's singing so you don't think he has the authority to give his opinion because he's not a musician or record producer?

Anyone who bought a ticket to that concert has the authority to give their opinion of their performance. I asked you if you thought all heavy metal singers can "sing" and you gave no answer. Do you think Marc Colombo can sing? Do you think his band would have gotten a record deal and attract fans if he and the rest of the members weren't Dallas Cowboys? Most of the fans who go see them play are Cowboy fans. You can see all the Cowboy jersey's out there.
 

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KJJ;3310246 said:
Singing in front of crowds your entire life doesn't give you the authority to rag on other peoples opinion of Free Reign or any other heavy metal band. Until you have a record deal that can be verified don't tell me or anyone else they don't know what they're talking about simply because you don't agree with their opinion and think singing karaoke and in a choir makes you an expert. Every music fan out there who buys music and concert tickets has the right to give their opinion on a particular band or style of music. The guy who started this thread was critical of Colombo's singing so you don't think he has the authority to give his opinion because he's not a musician or record producer?

Anyone who bought a ticket to that concert has the authority to give their opinion of their performance. I asked you if you thought all heavy metal singers can "sing" and you gave no answer. Do you think Marc Colombo can sing? Do you think his band would have gotten a record deal and attract fans if he and the rest of the members weren't Dallas Cowboys? Most of the fans who go see them play are Cowboy fans. You can see all the Cowboy jersey's out there.

yep, you have to right to your own opinion. just because you have that right doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. it's painfully obvious.

me being into, and around, music my entire life and having accomplished what I have gives me the authority to correct you when you're wrong. just because someone bought a ticket to a concert doesn't mean they know anything about music.

I'll throw these scenerios out there:

would slipknot be as big as they are if they didn't wear costumes and make-up on stage?

would Rob Zombie be as big as he is if he didn't do off the wall stuff at his shows?

what about Alice Cooper? Ozzy?

my point is this, and it's a simple one... Whatever it takes to get bodies in the seats/stands/whatever else...
 

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Audiman;3310501 said:
yep, you have to right to your own opinion. just because you have that right doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. it's painfully obvious.

me being into, and around, music my entire life and having accomplished what I have gives me the authority to correct you when you're wrong. just because someone bought a ticket to a concert doesn't mean they know anything about music.

I'll throw these scenerios out there:

would slipknot be as big as they are if they didn't wear costumes and make-up on stage?

would Rob Zombie be as big as he is if he didn't do off the wall stuff at his shows?

what about Alice Cooper? Ozzy?

my point is this, and it's a simple one... Whatever it takes to get bodies in the seats/stands/whatever else...


Dude anyone can come on here bragging about their accomplishments while sitting behind a computer. People can be whatever they want to be online. If you've accomplished so much from singing karaoke and in your church choir then where's all your albums and give us the date for your next concert appearance. LOL All you're doing is talking ****. Unless you can come up with a heavy metal album you've produced or a metal band you've managed nothing you say will be credible. I'm the one who asked the questions and here you are tap dancing around them. I guess we can add dancing to your list of talents. :p: Listen Mr song and dance answer the questions do you think Marc Colombo can sing? Do you think Free Reign would have been offered a record deal if all the members weren't Dallas Cowboys? As for Rob Zombie and Slipknot crazy costumes and off the wall stuff is part of alot of bands performances. The costumes, makeup, fireworks, smashing guitars is all part of putting on a show for some of those bands. If singers can sing and play they're going to attract fans regardless of costumes and off the wall antics.

Alice Cooper could sing the eye makeup, guillotines, electric chairs and fake blood were part of his show but you don't see any of that when you're listening to him driving in your car or at home. Some bands have to put on a crazy outrageous show to attract fans to their concerts. As for Ozzy he SUCKS! I have no idea what his appeal is. Saw him on Howard Stern awhile back and he looked like he was in a coma I couldn't understand a word he said. I found Sterns other guest who could fart the Star Spangled Banner more talented than Ozzy. If you're trying to make a point you've missed badly because the only thing that gets bodies in the seats to see Free Reign is some other event that fans bought tickets for. Read the thread they played after a hockey game. LOL They're trying get in front of a crowd anyway they can in hopes they can appeal to enough fans who will actually buy tickets to see THEM.
 
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