Saw the Cowboys/Packers Dez non catch game on NFL network

Silly side thread topic question: Do you act like it is your first time watching a game you have already seen? Typically, I do not watch full game replays. I will be sitting there, rooting just as hard as I did before, as if I did not already know the outcome. :rolleyes: "HE CAUGHT IT! HE CAUGHT IT! BURN IN HELL, DEAN BLANDINO!" :laugh:
 
Cowboyny said:
He was rated that prior to the draft, all the media scouts said he was over drafted by the cowboys, where the pick was killed by the fan base at the time
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Damn I think I must've forgot...I did small research on it and you're right some had him late or undrafted. Wow. I don't know if I should be bothered by their approach to having guys rated so much higher then others....clearly it worked with him and a guy like Fredericks but it seems it fails a lot especially in the 3rd round.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Damn I think I must've forgot...I did small research on it and you're right some had him late or undrafted. Wow. I don't know if I should be bothered by their approach to having guys rated so much higher then others....clearly it worked with him and a guy like Fredericks but it seems it fails a lot especially in the 3rd round.
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I have a real good memory, was photographic when I was a child. Not as good as it used to be, but do remember things I read or heard from the past.

Good players always fall through the cracks, point is Hitchens was drafted/developed by our current DC-Eberflus. We traded up for a LB in the 5th this year in James, whom many share the same concerns about. He is a good coach that can develop talent where his calling card has always been the linebacker unit. Darius Leonard won the defensive rookie of the year with the Colts where Eberflus was their DC.
 
shabazz said:
There are just some teams assembled that dont have everything needed to bring home a Lombardi or even get to a SB

We are seeing it in real time with the Bills and Ravens. Two top 5 Qbs with good supporting casts and coaches but there always seem to be a way they lose the biggest games.
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The AFC Team who knows how to win those games is Cincy, but their roster aged, especially on the defensive side.
 
Cowboyny said:
Some of my thoughts:

-This may of been the best Cowboy offense we have seen over the last 20 years:

-Elite OL (Leary/Parnell), Elite running game(Murray), very good receiving options (prime Dez, Witten, Beasley and TWilliams) Huge Murray fumble at the end of the 1st half was a big momentum swing.

-Defense was very suspect. Couldn't get any pressure on a injured Rodgers. Rookie Devonta Adams had a huge game as the Cowboy defenders keyed on stopping Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb. Huge 3rd and 15 for a long TD in the 3rd qrt changed the game.

Dez call was total BS as we all know, but it wouldn't of mattered as the defense couldn't get a stop.

Some conclusions based on what I saw compared to this Cowboy Team:

-Our current offense has similar receiving weapons, but the OL/run game is the biggest difference. It makes sense that they made fixing the run game an offseason priority. It is still very much a work in progress.

-Defensively, our current group is far more talented.

Mincey/Selvie and a rookie DLaw were our pass rushers. Hayden/Crawford were our DT's. McClain was out due to injury, saw Hitchens/Carter at backer, Carr/Steling Moore were at corner, Scandrick in the nickel, Wilcox/Heath at Safety.

Remember our DC was Marinelli and Eberflus was our LB coach. Eberflus did a tremendous job was turning around McClain's career at the time, Hitchens was suppose to be a undrafted fa and became a solid starter. Point is, don't discount Eberflus coaching chops.
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That fumble was the turning point
 
Cowboyny said:
Some of my thoughts:

-This may of been the best Cowboy offense we have seen over the last 20 years:

-Elite OL (Leary/Parnell), Elite running game(Murray), very good receiving options (prime Dez, Witten, Beasley and TWilliams) Huge Murray fumble at the end of the 1st half was a big momentum swing.

-Defense was very suspect. Couldn't get any pressure on a injured Rodgers. Rookie Devonta Adams had a huge game as the Cowboy defenders keyed on stopping Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb. Huge 3rd and 15 for a long TD in the 3rd qrt changed the game.

Dez call was total BS as we all know, but it wouldn't of mattered as the defense couldn't get a stop.

Some conclusions based on what I saw compared to this Cowboy Team:

-Our current offense has similar receiving weapons, but the OL/run game is the biggest difference. It makes sense that they made fixing the run game an offseason priority. It is still very much a work in progress.

-Defensively, our current group is far more talented.

Mincey/Selvie and a rookie DLaw were our pass rushers. Hayden/Crawford were our DT's. McClain was out due to injury, saw Hitchens/Carter at backer, Carr/Steling Moore were at corner, Scandrick in the nickel, Wilcox/Heath at Safety.

Remember our DC was Marinelli and Eberflus was our LB coach. Eberflus did a tremendous job was turning around McClain's career at the time, Hitchens was suppose to be a undrafted fa and became a solid starter. Point is, don't discount Eberflus coaching chops.
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Our running game was outstanding with Murray but our overall offense wasn’t as potent in 2014 as some of the offenses we’ve had under Dak. Romo passed for under 4000 yards in 2014. We ranked 7th offensively and only 9th in the playoffs. Our 2007 offense was one of the most explosive.
 
Swagger said:
Didn't Dan Bailey miss a field goal right at the end of the 2nd quarter? This gave the Packers great field position to eek out 3 points just before half time. Huge 6 points swing.
The three big turning points on offense:
  • Murray fumble
  • Bailey missed field goal
  • Dez catch.
Plus a bad defense only potentially capable of holding on when dominating time of possession. Even an MVP calibre QB that season with an elite offensive line couldn't overcome the above.
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1 unit can take you so far, rarely have we seen those types of teams win in the modern game.
 
tromofan said:
Dallas fans(like myself, living in denial), like to use the Dez play as a reason we lost the game. The defense, or lack there of, was the reason we lost.
This however, was not the perspective I had back then.
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3rd and 15, minute left in the 3rd qtr, 46 yard pass to Adams. Cowboys were up 21-13. Our corner went for the interception and Wilcox misses the kill shot. This was the game changing play!
 
Cowboyny said:
I have a real good memory, was photographic when I was a child. Not as good as it used to be, but do remember things I read or heard from the past.

Good players always fall through the cracks, point is Hitchens was drafted/developed by our current DC-Eberflus. We traded up for a LB in the 5th this year in James, whom many share the same concerns about. He is a good coach that can develop talent where his calling card has always been the linebacker unit. Darius Leonard won the defensive rookie of the year with the Colts where Eberflus was their DC.
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Well i'll say this in regards to James he has some physical tools. Hitchens had none of that, which is why he wasn't highly regarded. And he's incredibly young I think he was one of the youngest in the draft.
 
KJJ said:
Our running game was outstanding with Murray but our overall offense wasn’t as potent in 2014 as some of the offenses we’ve had under Dak. Romo passed for under 4000 yards in 2014. We ranked 7th offensively and only 9th in the playoffs. Our 2007 offense was one of the most explosive.
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That offense could beat you in several different ways. Stats might say otherwise, but I don't think there ever was a Dak led offense as good. They have been good either with the run or the pass, but never together.
 
WillieBeamen said:
Why when Zeke was twice the player?
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LOL, you lost me, Willie

Do you remember the Joseph Randall disaster? How Stephen used him and our OLine ( anyone can run behind this line and gain a 1000 yards) to low-ball Murray or run him off the team. We could have carried Murray OPOY momentum into the 2015 season and def been a contender for SB. Murray wanted a contract for $7M but willing to settle for 6 but Stephen wouldn't budge off $5M. Despite pleas from Garrett, Witten and Romo.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Well i'll say this in regards to James he has some physical tools. Hitchens had none of that, which is why he wasn't highly regarded. And he's incredibly young I think he was one of the youngest in the draft.
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He is just 20 years old. Biggest issue is his lack of instincts, which is huge for the linebacker position. Can the mental processing improve with more experience?
 
Cowboyny said:
Some of my thoughts:

-This may of been the best Cowboy offense we have seen over the last 20 years:

-Elite OL (Leary/Parnell), Elite running game(Murray), very good receiving options (prime Dez, Witten, Beasley and TWilliams) Huge Murray fumble at the end of the 1st half was a big momentum swing.

-Defense was very suspect. Couldn't get any pressure on a injured Rodgers. Rookie Devonta Adams had a huge game as the Cowboy defenders keyed on stopping Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb. Huge 3rd and 15 for a long TD in the 3rd qrt changed the game.

Dez call was total BS as we all know, but it wouldn't of mattered as the defense couldn't get a stop.

Some conclusions based on what I saw compared to this Cowboy Team:

-Our current offense has similar receiving weapons, but the OL/run game is the biggest difference. It makes sense that they made fixing the run game an offseason priority. It is still very much a work in progress.

-Defensively, our current group is far more talented.

Mincey/Selvie and a rookie DLaw were our pass rushers. Hayden/Crawford were our DT's. McClain was out due to injury, saw Hitchens/Carter at backer, Carr/Steling Moore were at corner, Scandrick in the nickel, Wilcox/Heath at Safety.

Remember our DC was Marinelli and Eberflus was our LB coach. Eberflus did a tremendous job was turning around McClain's career at the time, Hitchens was suppose to be a undrafted fa and became a solid starter. Point is, don't discount Eberflus coaching chops.
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The defense did force an end of game field goal win. (4 seconds)
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
LOL, you lost me, Willie

Do you remember the Joseph Randall disaster? How Stephen used him and our OLine ( anyone can run behind this line and gain a 1000 yards) to low-ball Murray or run him off the team. We could have carried Murray OPOY momentum into the 2015 season and def been a contender for SB. Murray wanted a contract for $7M but willing to settle for 6 but Stephen wouldn't budge off $5M. Despite pleas from Garrett, Witten and Romo.
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Poor cap management is part of the problem here, they over pay their homegrown talent and then are forced to cut them before the new deal expires. They were probably gun shy of that happening again.
 
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