Saw the Cowboys/Packers Dez non catch game on NFL network

[MarcusRock]

Yes, it was clearly a diversion. Just like the post that this is in response to is one as well.

If you think saying that you always side with the refs because you have emotional ties to officiating is an “insult”, your emotional fortitude is at the level of pansy.

Now, THAT was an insult.

Well touche. You told me! Your rule explanation was still crap though. Lol.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Some of my thoughts:

-This may of been the best Cowboy offense we have seen over the last 20 years:

-Elite OL (Leary/Parnell), Elite running game(Murray), very good receiving options (prime Dez, Witten, Beasley and TWilliams) Huge Murray fumble at the end of the 1st half was a big momentum swing.

-Defense was very suspect. Couldn't get any pressure on a injured Rodgers. Rookie Devonta Adams had a huge game as the Cowboy defenders keyed on stopping Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb. Huge 3rd and 15 for a long TD in the 3rd qrt changed the game.

Dez call was total BS as we all know, but it wouldn't of mattered as the defense couldn't get a stop.

Some conclusions based on what I saw compared to this Cowboy Team:

-Our current offense has similar receiving weapons, but the OL/run game is the biggest difference. It makes sense that they made fixing the run game an offseason priority. It is still very much a work in progress.

-Defensively, our current group is far more talented.

Mincey/Selvie and a rookie DLaw were our pass rushers. Hayden/Crawford were our DT's. McClain was out due to injury, saw Hitchens/Carter at backer, Carr/Steling Moore were at corner, Scandrick in the nickel, Wilcox/Heath at Safety.

Remember our DC was Marinelli and Eberflus was our LB coach. Eberflus did a tremendous job was turning around McClain's career at the time, Hitchens was suppose to be a undrafted fa and became a solid starter. Point is, don't discount Eberflus coaching chops.

Unfortunately this front office treats the defensive side of the ball like a red headed step child. It gets some love but only what's leftover after lavishing the favorite child offense. Some years we get lucky and have a slightly above average defense but never elite and never playoff quality. That defensive effort against a one legged Rodgers was pathetic.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Murray's fumble is why we lost that game. i will never forgive HIM.

Yeah, we had control of the game until his fumble. It was such a shame we lost that game. That was probably the closest I'll get for a while to seeing us in a SB.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

LOL, you lost me, Willie

Do you remember the Joseph Randall disaster? How Stephen used him and our OLine ( anyone can run behind this line and gain a 1000 yards) to low-ball Murray or run him off the team. We could have carried Murray OPOY momentum into the 2015 season and def been a contender for SB. Murray wanted a contract for $7M but willing to settle for 6 but Stephen wouldn't budge off $5M. Despite pleas from Garrett, Witten and Romo.

At least he got cologne and underwear out of it

 

[gtb1943]

Pipe down, also-ran fanboi, lol. You and your misinformation. So Dez "leaped" after he high-pointed the ball? Lol. You can't even get the scenario right after the video's been posted in here yet you want to be taken seriously as one who knew the rules at the time?

you are notorious for always defending the NFL rules and refs and then you whine about being called out about it?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well touche. You told me! Your rule explanation was still crap though. Lol.

Letting him win on the internet is you winning on the internet.

 

[Robbieac]

In the end……it was called a catch on the field.

We can dissect it back and forth as much as we want, but ultimately it was still called a catch on the field. It should have only been overturned if there was clear indisputable evidence that it wasn’t a catch, and it is far from clear evidence that it wasn’t.

When in doubt…..always give preference to the call on the field. Period. The End.

 

[DandyDon52]

Didn't Dan Bailey miss a field goal right at the end of the 2nd quarter? This gave the Packers great field position to eek out 3 points just before half time. Huge 6 points swing.
The three big turning points on offense:

• Murray fumble
• Bailey missed field goal
• Dez catch.

Plus a bad defense only potentially capable of holding on when dominating time of possession. Even an MVP calibre QB that season with an elite offensive line couldn't overcome the above.

dont forget JG as HC, his game mgmt was awful.

 

[DandyDon52]

Yep. But no one ever talks about the field goal miss, only the Murray fumble. It was huge, yes, but it was more than early enough in the game for Rodgers to overcome.

I would have played Randle, Murray had a broken hand.
Also JG called timeout when witten caught the pass which was clearly short, and JG's TO
gave refs time to look at it and make it 4th and 2.

JG was awful, he was right there, and should have told them to run a play quick as possible,
not call TO.
The Murray fumble, was a strip, by pepper who had made martin look like a HS player on that
play. Just a great play by pepper.

 

[FanofJerry]

Jerry definitely tipped the refs after the game for that large slice of drama...

Bet Jerry made a doozy off that single call...

That play alone signifies everything this clubs business model is about.

If Jerry could make the playoffs every year, get to round two and every year it's a Dallas QB INT thrown late in fourth to lose the game, a bad defensive showing, a bad ref call like the Dez catch, a coaching blunder late(think go for two to win and we crap the bed and lose by one, bad timeout management)...

Just recycle the causes for the losses every few years...

Man, Jerry would be elated with 2nd round exits with dramatic endings every year. It would optimize his business model to its greatest potential...

I have my eye on refs in playoffs now. If Cowboys have bad reffing in playoff losses....I know it's because Jerry has them in his back pocket

 

[CCBoy]

Jerry definitely tipped the refs after the game for that large slice of drama...

Bet Jerry made a doozy off that single call...

That play alone signifies everything this clubs business model is about.

If Jerry could make the playoffs every year, get to round two and every year it's a Dallas QB INT thrown late in fourth to lose the game, a bad defensive showing, a bad ref call like the Dez catch, a coaching blunder late(think go for two to win and we crap the bed and lose by one, bad timeout management)...

Just recycle the causes for the losses every few years...

Man, Jerry would be elated with 2nd round exits with dramatic endings every year. It would optimize his business model to its greatest potential...

I have my eye on refs in playoffs now. If Cowboys have bad reffing in playoff losses....I know it's because Jerry has them in his back pocket

No man is content with losing. That includes Jerry Jones. You don't consider that fact, you are off in analysis.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

No man is content with losing. That includes Jerry Jones. You don't consider that fact, you are off in analysis.

Jerry isn't losing, when people are content in making him richer, despite his track record.

 

[CCBoy]

Jerry isn't losing, when people are content in making him richer, despite his track record.

Don't worry, I'm not investing in Tesla. Too many children being murdered.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Well touche. You told me! Your rule explanation was still crap though. Lol.

You can claim whatever you want. It proves zilch. I’ve responded to the rule with actual explanations multiple times in the past in plenty of threads.

You however, respond with nothing substantive.

‘It wasn’t a catch according to the rule! You see, because the rule says it wasn’t. If it was a catch according to the rule, the refs wouldn’t have overturned it!’

Talk about a circular “argument”.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Point, both the Cowboys and Dak both have earned respect in the playoffs.

Hahhahahahahaaa!!!!! I literally just spit my coffee out.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that that's a joke. It's a good one! A little sarcastic for my taste, but good!

Imagine....THIS getting playoff repsect. That's gold Jerry, gold!

 

[Cowboyny]

And Romo with his usual miscues at critical times. 3rd and 1 with Murray having a big game….”Kill, Kill, Kill” changing the play, then letting the shotgun snap go right through his hands, hit his chest, major bobbling, so we end up trying a FG and miss it.

Also, took a few sacks trying to buy time in the pocket.

 

[Cowboyny]

Why torture yourself on the non-catch? It cannot be undone or challenged unless we find plutonium for the DeLorean.

As to this season, our O can be dangerous but RB is in question.
Bloody hell, Blue's college highlights are impressive, but that skill does not necessarily translate well when running against NFL defenders.

Me concerns on our D:
1. Our interior line.
2. LB as we wait for Overshown.

Team is a puzzle, of course, right now.
For me, I expect 9-8 in 2025 when I am feeling optimistic.

Don't just assume the OL will be fixed by replacing a rookie with a hall of fame player. They struggled last season. They don't have much talent at the RB position, but it won't matter if the OL has it's struggles.

Defensively, many will blame the interior for the lack of run defense, but it is exactly the entire group that struggles, couldn't tell you how many outside runs killed this team. Also, our secondary is extremely banged up, cannot count on an injured rookie to fix that issue overnight.

 

[Cowboyny]

Man, it goes back to "can a QB develop accuracy"? Some seem to think no, but we've seen guys do it. I'm gonna say with more experience, the game will become easier for a linebacker....

I agree.....

Time will tell, but we have seen players like Jaylon, Carter, Clark not improve with more experience.

 

[Cowboyny]

In the 1990 NFL draft Blair Thomas was taken 2nd overall while Emmitt was taken 17th overall. Who went on to have the better career?

Jeanty is similar to a Barry/Saqaun, with homerun abilities every time they touch the football. Hampton just doesn't have those same abilities and why he wasn't considered an elite prospect.

NFL was different in the 90's, where teams valued the RB position. Emmitt should of been drafted higher, but if I remember Thomas career was hit with injury.

 

[pitt33]

Murray's fumble is why we lost that game.

Agreed.

People gripe about the non-catch - which by rule at the time was the right call - but Murray’s fumble was a killer.