Scandrick's injury no big deal in the grand scheme

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True but we brought in McClain and drafted Hitches who filled in at the MLB spot and did a good job.

This defense might just surprise many people. It has gotten younger and younger each year the same way that the offense did by adding top notch youth on the oline.

Let's go...FANS...on three, make it loud! lol
 

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Glad you said that because you just backed up what I stated in another thread how FANS try and spin a negative into a positive. There's nothing positive about losing your best corner. Scandrick didn't give up a TD last season when he was the primary corner in coverage.

Everything is positive in the pre-season, including loosing your best corner, apparently.
 

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Bull. So why isn't McFadden starting? He makes more than Randle.

Rod Marinelli isn't playing guys based on their contracts, and he wouldn't listen to Jerry about anything regarding his defense.

Come on
 

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Everything is positive in the pre-season, including loosing your best corner, apparently.

It's typical of some here to look for a silver lining in the Cowboys losing one of their top players. If I post someone said losing Scandrick is a good thing they'll claim I'm making it up.
 

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PFF is a waste of time. It's a bunch of fat guy's who never played football looking for a way to avoid IT careers.

Tell me Scandrick's top five plays last year. Bears interception. What else?

Look, he's a good player, but he's not even close to being a top 10 corner. If he was, they wouldn't make Brandon Carr always cover the top receiver on the other team.

It actually isnt a bad thing to not remember plays by your CB. That usually means he is doing a pretty good job.

There is a lot more to playing CB than getting interceptions. That is like judging a DE solely for sacks.

If you play 500+ snaps covering #1 #2s and don't give up a TD all season long, that is pretty phenomenal work.
 

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Great. The first lob of the "blessing in disguise" thread variant.

Let's make no bones about this. OScan makes us a better defense.
No doubt...one of the best players on D goes down and suddenly he's average...he's the best overall corner period...
 

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PFF is a waste of time. It's a bunch of fat guy's who never played football looking for a way to avoid IT careers.

Tell me Scandrick's top five plays last year. Bears interception. What else?

Look, he's a good player, but he's not even close to being a top 10 corner. If he was, they wouldn't make Brandon Carr always cover the top receiver on the other team.
Scandrick at one point covered Carrs receivers if I'm not mistaken...
 

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No doubt...one of the best players on D goes down and suddenly he's average...he's the best overall corner period...

No one is doubting he is the best corner on the team but he is not an elite corner, he just happens to be a highly above average and when compared to the ones on the team he is head and shoulders above his peers. he is a top 15 or 16 CB of lets say 96 cb that start (nickel being a primary defense more than base). The question is does the team have 2-3 guys that can do what he does, maybe Patmon can take the slot duties, and Jones/Claiborne can take the outside receiver duties, and hopefully the upgraded pass rush can account for his 2-3 sacks.
 

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This defense might just surprise many people. It has gotten younger and younger each year the same way that the offense did by adding top notch youth on the oline.

Let's go...FANS...on three, make it loud! lol

That is my hope as well. Cowboys I felt did a lot to improve the defensive front and I think that could really turn things around for them. I know for the DB's it becomes easier when QB are being forced to get rid of it quicker or throw off balance
 

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Scandrick's injury wasn't a good thing but it is a manageable subtraction from the starting lineup. 100+ internet credits for the Ashley Madison mentionable though.

Yes I like how Erod managed to include the AMadison reference. I actually felt the same way about the Oscan injury. I understood he was having a tough camp with a sore knee which may not mean a thing for his regular season play. Also understood his private life is all but stable with his gal which can be a distraction for good play. He had an issue with drugs and was busted for it last year and served his time. All that and the DC office had to be thinking about his stability. I'm encouraged by our BD depth (but please Lord no more injuries there). Where going to get tested coming out of the gate with NYG on just how soild our pass defense is and if we get burned I'm still not going to panic. I may let out a few of my bowling words but I have a feeling Oscans play or name will not be mentioned after our first few games. That said, we'll see what he's really made of with his attitude about therapy. Message to Oscan: It's gong to be easy to fall back into your friends who may have the same problem that got you in trouble last year. Hammer out your relationship issues and find a good woman. Get on the program like Lee and Mo did and come back ready to roll next year.
 

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It is like the Kevin Smith injury of many years ago, the team made it through that and at the time Kevin Smith was considered a corner about to turn the corner into a top flight CB. My concern is do we have a Larry Brown in the pack.

The Kevin Smith injury was a tragedy. He was top flight and owned Jerry Rice (who was considered the best). In that short stint, he took on every opposing teams #1 receiver much of the time without help. A part of me died the day his Achilles erupted.
 

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I actually heard someone, with a straight face and a stern brow, blame Orlando Scandrick's injury on Jason Garrett yesterday. I kid you not. His "point" was that if Garrett had held the scheduled day at the beach as usual - Garrett cancelled it because of the poor performance on Sunday - Scandrick would not have been on the practice field and gotten hurt.

He was serious. I pointed out that, by his logic, if they just cancelled training camp altogether and played only end-of-the-roster guys in preseason, we could be guaranteed not to lose a starter by the Giants game. I was told that was ridiculous. He couldn't connect the dots of my point. In fact, I don't think he could find his butt with a flashlight and a map.

So I decided to blow his circuitry further with this point, which I'm about 75 percent serious about: Scandrick's injury was a good thing.

First, some context to my thinking. If you had to choose a significant starter to lose during the preseason, which most every preseason brings, Scandrick would probably be a good choice. The depth at cornerback has improved beyond the cast from last year, when he was suspended for Draya mollies for four games. Tyler Patmon looks like a real player, as does Corey White, to go along with Carr and the two first-round picks of Mo and Jones. Add to that what looks like an improved pass rush, and the group is bolstered all the more.

Second, I'm one that thinks Scandrick is a bit overrated. His leadership quality and reasonable ability shined during the recent Dark Ages of Cowboys defensive football, when yardage leaked like Ashley Madison accounts. He was a lone wolf in a pack of Shih tzus for a good while, which made him look like the second coming of Deion Sanders around here (which my buddy seems to believe).

The fact is, this loss can be absorbed, and assuming no other corner injuries occur, thank you, there's really no need to add a sixth corner right now.

That could mean that a player Dallas DIDN'T want to waive doesn't necessarily have to be. The Cowboys have entered that rare air of a team that has to let go of good players other teams want because need at other positions dictates certain decisions, or in this case, a wealth of ability at a single position that you just can't cut. I half expected a trade of one of these quality corners anyway because of need elsewhere.

So who benefits from Scandrick's misfortune? Nick Harwell? AJ Jenkins? Ben Gardner? Ken Bishop? Lavar Edwards? Tim Scott? Mark Nzeocha? Keith Smith? A guy soon to be cut elsewhere?

Just who grabbed their eye that now has new hope for the 53? Or whom out there has tickled their distant fancy?

The best thing about this whole thing is simple. I'm not worried about it, not in the least. I have full confidence that Will McClay's talent bandits are on the prowl, and there's a good solution in the making, here already or not. They've got this well in hand.

While I watch other teams wallowing in desperation over lost Achilles and ACLs, I see a deepening roster here very much intact right now. That doesn't preclude an injury this weekend, or any weekend from here to January, but as it stands, this particular loss is really no big deal. Part of the NFL, which seems more wrought with injuries with every passing season.

In fact, aside from a season-ender to Romo, Tyron, or Dez, I don't think there's an injury this team couldn't amply absorb and roll on, so long as they didn't come in high quantity. That's why my choice would be to keep another outside receiver, just in case the worst case with Dez happened. I actually think they could manage through that, albeit with difficulty.

Now, that said, no more of these, please. Quick success Saturday, and get them out pronto, por favor. Shut them down until the Giants.

We loose any more CBs for the year, we'll see just how much of a good thing Scandrick's injury was!
 

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I actually heard someone, with a straight face and a stern brow, blame Orlando Scandrick's injury on Jason Garrett yesterday. I kid you not. His "point" was that if Garrett had held the scheduled day at the beach as usual - Garrett cancelled it because of the poor performance on Sunday - Scandrick would not have been on the practice field and gotten hurt.

Opinion 2 below is worse than opinion 1.

Opinion 1: If Garrett had held the scheduled day at the beach as usual - (Garrett cancelled it because of the poor performance on Sunday) - Scandrick would not have been on the practice field and gotten hurt.

Opinion 2: Scandrick's injury was a good thing.

Yep, I'd say that's a good analysis. -- (Nothing like a guy responding to an over-the-top post with another one.)
 

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We loose any more CBs for the year, we'll see just how much of a good thing Scandrick's injury was!

That's the kicker. As is, this is no big deal. But that line became a lot finer moving forward on the injury front.
 

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He hasn't played that bad when healthy
He just hasn't been healthy
Hopefully he can stay healthy and if he does he has all the motivation to play well
We shall see
It is really hard for me to forgive him for getting repeatedly owned by Riley Cooper.
 

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No one is doubting he is the best corner on the team but he is not an elite corner, he just happens to be a highly above average and when compared to the ones on the team he is head and shoulders above his peers. he is a top 15 or 16 CB of lets say 96 cb that start (nickel being a primary defense more than base). The question is does the team have 2-3 guys that can do what he does, maybe Patmon can take the slot duties, and Jones/Claiborne can take the outside receiver duties, and hopefully the upgraded pass rush can account for his 2-3 sacks.

I know what your saying but I think Scandrick is much better than people realize. For one, he is an Elite tackler. He will be missed and I just don't believe Patmon can do what Scandrick does.........
 

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Over the years I've learned that Dallas doesn't have bad injuries. All injuries this team faces are nothing more than blessings in disguise.
 
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