Scouts Inc. Top 150 overall 2/9/16....

[Alexander]

Jack in the first, Lynch in the second.

You'd have to surgically remove my smile.

I believe it is inevitable that the top three will all go in the first round. The extra year the first round pick gets in terms of development is why you see so many go in the first.

If Dallas is serious about getting a potential starter at QB for the future, they will need either take one at 4 or trade back into the round.

And that will cost a premium choice this draft and probably next year as well. I think that is a little rich.

 

[Alexander]

If Ramsey or Bosa is there at 4 that is where the pick should be.

Tweener DB or LDE.

Sounds like real bang for the buck.

 

[IrishAnto]

I believe it is inevitable that the top three will all go in the first round. The extra year the first round pick gets in terms of development is why you see so many go in the first.

If Dallas is serious about getting a potential starter at QB for the future, they will need either take one at 4 or trade back into the round.

And that will cost a premium choice this draft and probably next year as well. I think that is a little rich.

I agree that all the top 3 QB's will almost certainly be gone by our second pick, and that's why I'd be so happy if we could get Lynch in the 2nd especially as he's my choice of the three QBs.

You might be able to trade down a few spots and get Lynch and get another pick though.

 

[Alexander]

Yay, let's reach for a QB just because we "have" to take 1!

Yay, let's just lock into one side of the football and take a player because we "have" to.

We need a CB. We "have" to take one.

That always works well out well and has never set a franchise back....

What exactly did the trade up for Morris Claiborne do? We "had to" get a CB out of that draft.

That impulsive mistake set this franchise back severely.

People are making this QB argument way too overly complicated, there's no reason to be talking about it still. If 1 of the QB's left after the Browns is ranked in our top 10 pre draft you take that player. If not you take the highest ranked player on your board. Not that difficult. But picking 1 of these 3 QB's simply because we may not pick at 4 again is idiotic at best.

Who exactly is suggesting reaching? I think everyone suggesting one of the QBs feels they have franchise potential.

What is happening is that there is a difference of opinion being masked as some sort of rational thought. If you don't like the QB, fine. State your case why a defender is better and who. Few examples of people doing that. It is just preferences being pawned off as something they are not.

I don't see anyone suggesting taking a WR or RB at 4. Why is that?

All in all, it is just a sly way of saying it is defense or bust with the pick.

What is idiotic is taking a fourth/fifth round QB later on just to have one.

If you pass at the top of the draft, you are spitting in the wind with a developmental later because rarely do they ever work out.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Tweener DB or LDE.

Sounds like real bang for the buck.

Just going off that list and others those two continue to be at or near the top as the top talents in the draft. I don't think the team would be making a dire mistake if one of those two are drafted. Do you?

 

[Silver N Blue]

On a side note seeing Cook ahead of Lynch leads to personal speculation Cook may be there in rd 2.

 

[tm1119]

Yay, let's just lock into one side of the football and take a player because we "have" to.

We need a CB. We "have" to take one.



What exactly did the trade up for Morris Claiborne do? We "had to" get a CB out of that draft.

That impulsive mistake set this franchise back severely.



Who exactly is suggesting reaching? I think everyone suggesting one of the QBs feels they have franchise potential.

What is happening is that there is a difference of opinion being masked as some sort of rational thought. If you don't like the QB, fine. State your case why a defender is better and who. Few examples of people doing that. It is just preferences being pawned off as something they are not.

I don't see anyone suggesting taking a WR or RB at 4. Why is that?

All in all, it is just a sly way of saying it is defense or bust with the pick.

What is idiotic is taking a fourth/fifth round QB later on just to have one.

If you pass at the top of the draft, you are spitting in the wind with a developmental later because rarely do they ever work out.

I have no idea what you're talking about lol. My post clearly states to take the highest player on our board if there isn't a QB we really like left. What part of that do you disagree with?

 

[Alexander]

Just going off that list and others those two continue to be at or near the top as the top talents in the draft. I don't think the team would be making a dire mistake if one of those two are drafted. Do you?

Dire mistake? Maybe not. But seriously, a LDE or a DB with no set position is going to do what? Myles Jack playing MLB, something he has not been asked to do, does what?

I just see a lot of people saying "Best Player" when to be pretty blunt, it is not looking like there are even five players that you can point at and say yes, one of them is going to be an impact player, right away.

Tough to say that about a draft where you are picking fourth, but there it is.

 

[Risen Star]

2 of these QBs will be consensus top 5 picks
No need to reach

And if the Cowboys only have one of the two as a franchise QB it would be "idiotic" to sit behind Cleveland and hope he falls. You go up and get your QB.

 

[Risen Star]

When you're at 4 and you have a franchise QB on the board with a crippled Romo on the roster, how the hell do you even consider another prospect at any other position? That's your guy. Go get him. It is completely illogical not to.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Goff/Wentz at #4
Fuller/Doctson/Miller at #34
Collins at #67

Boom, you potentially upgraded your offensive skill positions for now/future. I'd say you throw every available resource left at defensive upgrades, but this organization usually takes the rest of the draft off.

 

[Risen Star]

Goff/Wentz at #4
Fuller/Doctson/Miller at #34
Collins at #67

Boom, you potentially upgraded your offensive skill positions for now/future. I'd say you throw every available resource left at defensive upgrades, but this organization usually takes the rest of the draft off.

Cherry picking, but you have to love this display of pass protection from Collins....

 

[LucaBrasi]

Cherry picking, but you have to love this display of pass protection from Collins....

He'll get coached up by Gary Brown, LOL. Hey, 3rd round you are getting a flawed player. I like the way he runs. Just my preference up high in each round drafting skill.

 

[tyke1doe]

Cherry picking, but you have to love this display of pass protection from Collins....

Romo's going to get killed.

 

[visionary]

I hope so man, I honestly do. But I have my doubts there will be 2 QB's in our top 10.

Personally have no doubts that Goff belongs in the top 5. Also don't have doubts about Lynch not being in the top 10 and definitely not for this coaching staff. That leaves the great debate on Wentz...the only thing I can say with confidence about him is that myself and everyone on this board has no clue. Not enough out there to determine that. All up to our coaches and scouts. The crappy part is that they probably already know whether they would take him or not too, and we are in limbo til late April.

I agree with you
The reality is that a franchise QB changes the equation. All 3 of these guys might be top 10-15 picks and if my scouts tell me a franchise QB is there, I pick him no question. We need to look beyond next year at the long term health of the franchise

 

[Macnalty]

Eli Apple at 18 and Braxton Miller in top 50 I need more than one grain of salt.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Dire mistake? Maybe not. But seriously, a LDE or a DB with no set position is going to do what? Myles Jack playing MLB, something he has not been asked to do, does what?

I just see a lot of people saying "Best Player" when to be pretty blunt, it is not looking like there are even five players that you can point at and say yes, one of them is going to be an impact player, right away.

Tough to say that about a draft where you are picking fourth, but there it is.

yeah interesting point of view...i understand what your saying and even though it's not popular I would love to see Zeke...true bellcow in every sense of the word I just get the feeling they are either going to trade down and target a QB or go def and between those two one of them will probably be available...but i get what you're saying