Scouts quotes on prospects

[JBS]

Taken from another board


These are from a piece Bob McGinn does every year on the draft for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal

Nate Solder-" he's the most talented tackle overall. he's just got a ways to go with his anchor and learning the tricks of the trade. He doesnt have the grit and finish or the lower body-strength yet. Too tall

Tyron Smith-" his technique is all screwed up, but he has great body balance, feet, and quickness.

Castonzo- "technically, he may be the best of the tackles. he's got a little stiffness. He's athletic but I just dont see any power to him. I just dont like the way he's built. He's linear not real bulky guy.

Carimi- "I think he's probably the most ready to play. I dont think he will be elite type tackle but he will be a good solid pro." 2 scouts said right tackle only. " I think he's a first round pick almost by default. not as good as Bulaga. smart kid, will battle you, you could do worse.

Pouncey- "Brother was a little more powerful. He wont always be pretty but he anchors really well, which is a key for centers and guards. good range, above average athlete, good size, plays hard. had half a dozen faulty shotgun snaps in 2010.

J. Baldwin- " Best hands in draft, huge targert, great ball skills. definatley more of an X(split end) than a Z(flanker). not a good route runner. maneuverability in his hips is a little bit of an issue. chip on his shoulder wants to prove hes as good as Green and Jones.

Liuget- "He's a whole lot better than i thought he was going to be. he doesnt stay blocked long. hes going to beat you with his strength and his feet. quick off the ball, real stout, good insticts.

D Sherrod- " did not look good at senior bowl. hes a hit or miss fuy. Smarter than you average Mississippi State guy. He will be a starter."

Ijalana-" Athletically he's really good. he can bend. He plays to his competition level. the question is, does his fire burn all the time. turned it up only 2 or 3 times in his career. Hes a slab of a man who underachieves. hes willing to work just hasnt had a coach up his rear.

O Franklin-" I think he's better than Castonzo." another scout said "top 50 or 60 player, better than Carimi, more physical and athletic.

M. Cannon- " He tries to win with his size. he's go some stiffness. does not always finish. not ready to play. it will take him a year or so to get it. when he does he has the ability to play left tackle.

Marcus Gilbert- " Hes not real bright. Underachiever, bust waiting to happen."

Kerrigan- " Hes a Kerney, Vanden Bosch. going to make it because he persitstent and savvy. He cares so much. Hes a little tight.

Paea- "he's got a little bit of a height issue. He's a 3-technique. not a nose tackle.

P. Taylor- "He has to keep his weight under control. He's got ability no question about it. really gifted feet.

M. Austin- "if he had any character at all he would be a 1st round pick. he's a punk but he has special, special feet. He does some athletic stuff that makes you go Holy $@*#%

Jimmy Smith- " He's a pretty good player but he's a jerk." most scouts like him but had expressed major misgivings about his character.

Brandon Harris- " Plays with his eyes. he's confident. we see him more as a late second or third round guy."

Aaron Williams- "Hes more finesse than physical. Then again, Texas guys are pampered and cant fight through adversity. good

 

[JBS]

Cam Newton - " a big time athlete-he's more smooth and fluid than explosive. His mechanics are all off. He's more of a thrower than passer. He's got that flashy smile and the look in his eye and he's way too scripted-I don't like it. He's too fake. "

Tandon Doss - " might have the best hands in the draft. He's going to make a killing in the slot in this league. "

Torrey Smith - " has a great story. I wanted to like him when I read about his mom-he's a great story. Those Maryland WRs run fast. He'll tear it up on the track. But I watched 5 games and kept waiting for him to show up, and he didn't. He disappears too much for me. "

Jerel Jernigan - " will need time to learn routes. He's really little. Steve Smith (Panthers) went in the 3rd round and was more explosive than him. Mike Wallace was more explosive. Mike Thomas went in the 4th and was a better football player. For a little guy, I wish he were more explosive and shifty "

Virgil Green - " didn't get a lot of love from scouts during the fall, but he made a one handed grab on the sideline where he laid out, and you saw everyone start scribbling in their notebooks. He's more than just the workout warrior that he gets labeled as. "

James Brewer - " has long arms. He's a good athlete. He can run. He's a helluva zone blocker. You don't see him maul anyone in the run blocking, but he has the feet to play on the left side. They had Saffold there, so they kept him on the right side. "

Gabe Carimi - " is a big ole Wis. kid. He's not powerful, and he's not a good athlete. He falls off blocks. He's a leaner. Someone will take him high up there, but it won't be us. He's a right tackle for me. "

Derek Sherrod - " will start in the league, but I would be surprised if he's starting at LT. He doesn't get challenged much. We like him as a OG. "

Adrian Clayborn - " I'll take the one armed *** kicker over most of these guys. His arm is scary. It's noticeable in practice. He's still a damn good player but we'll leave it in the hands of the medical people. "

Corey Liuget - " is a quick and instinctive 3tech. A good athlete and plays with good effort. Even though we play in a 40 front, we want our guys bigger inside. Our coaches would be looking at us funny if we brought him here. He's not big enough for us. We wouldn't look at him until the 3rd. "

Phil Taylor - " flashed in one on one drills-he did not light it up. He pushes up field in drills but you get to team situations, he gets walled off and stuck. "

Casey Matthews - " is active but golly, he is short armed with small hands. He's a short, compact, self made, pumped up guy. I know everyone is going to get wrapped up in his name-I get it and I like his instincts-but he can't wrap or take on blocks. "

Martez Wilson - " is stiff, stiff, stiff-he can't bend down and touch his own ankles. There is a lot to sort through with him, medically and off the field. I don't know what he does for you. "

Justin Houston - " I watched 5 games and I kept waiting for him to make plays, and he didn't do anything. You hear how great he is, but he is over sold in my opinion. I don't see the athletic ability or elite edge speed. "

Patrick Peterson - " goes low too much as a tackler-it drives me nuts. I'm usually dialed in to height-weight-speed prospects, but he is horrible freelancing. He's not good with his back to the ball. If he lands in our division, bombs away. "

Prince Amukamara - " gets caught with his eyes in the backfield a lot-that's why they get him with the back shoulder throws and double moves. He likes to peek and squat. College OCs figured it out. They will go after him at our level. "

Jimmy Smith - " is really talented but I would not touch him. He's too inconsistent for me-he has good games and bad games. I don't like the way he competes. "

Ahmad Black - " is small, and we're not talking about Bob Sanders. Even if he pumps up to 190, he's still small at the end of the day. This is a big man's game. What I always ask myself is-could this guy step in front of Steven Jackson and Adrian Peterson and tackle. I don't see it. Some one else might like him early, but I don't. I think he has to be a CB."

 

[JBS]

Tyler Sash - " I like his instincts. He's somewhere in that same caliber of player as Giordano, Zbikowski, who I thought was overdrafted, and Sean Considine. "

Jake Locker - " has an ascend factor. What you see is what you get. I don't think you can throw him out there day one, but I would take him over all of them. He has so much upside."

Jacquizz Rodgers - " left school so he could help his mom out. That's why his brother was thinking of leaving last year. His brother has been the one who returns kicks, but that's not to say he can't do it. He'll be a factor just like Darren Sproles."

John Moffitt - "could be a helluva center. He's strictly an in line player, but he's smart enough to play both OG and OC. He's a tough 4 year starter."

Will Rackley - "stood out at the East-West shrine game. He was the best lineman there. It wasn't even close. He has such strong hands."

Marcell Dareus - " is a slam dunk. I would take him....He's a helluva football player.."

 

[JBS]

Keep in mind, I'm not sure if all the quotes are from the same scout

 

[21Savage]

Keep in mind, I'm not sure if all the quotes are from the same scout

Yeah the 2nd guy, who talked about the same prospects as the first, sounded like his dog just died. He didn't like anybody

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Tyler Sash - " I like his instincts. He's somewhere in that same caliber of player as Giordano, Zbikowski, who I thought was overdrafted, and Sean Considine. "

lol....I guess you can tell what Tyler Sash looks like


I dont like the marriage of PP and Campo. PP does have some percentage of Deion in him and I dont like his potential coach letting him do w/e he wants

 

[realtick]

Don't know who he was talking to, but he sounds like a complete baffoon. I think I disagreed with about 90 percent of the things he said.

 

[JBS]

lol....I guess you can tell what Tyler Sash looks like


I dont like the marriage of PP and Campo. PP does have some percentage of Deion in him and I dont like his potential coach letting him do w/e he wants

Does that make you not want to move up for Peterson? IMO, it's a valid concern to have..

 

[SDogo]

lol....I guess you can tell what Tyler Sash looks like


I dont like the marriage of PP and Campo. PP does have some percentage of Deion in him and I dont like his potential coach letting him do w/e he wants

Again, with apologies to Hos, I tend to side with the scouts I talked to a while back regarding Peterson. His future is playing safety in this league facing the ball. This guy simply agree's as do most I talk to.

With that said it does not change my opinion of him. I have always slotted Peterson as a safety and would still move up to 5 to take him.

 

[SDogo]

Don't know who he was talking to, but he sounds like a complete baffoon. I think I disagreed with about 90 percent of the things he said.

The comment about Baldwin's hands almost made me stop reading. I dont know of anyone who thinks he has the best hands in this draft, if anything the biggest knock on him is his consistency.

 

[RS12]

Aaron Williams- "Hes more finesse than physical. Then again, Texas guys are pampered and cant fight through adversity. good

:laugh2:

James Brewer - " has long arms. He's a good athlete. He can run. He's a helluva zone blocker. You don't see him maul anyone in the run blocking, but he has the feet to play on the left side. They had Saffold there, so they kept him on the right side. "

I have been intrigued by this guy since the Shrine game.

Casey Matthews - " is active but golly, he is short armed with small hands. He's a short, compact, self made, pumped up guy. I know everyone is going to get wrapped up in his name-I get it and I like his instincts-but he can't wrap or take on blocks.

"

All I ever see him do is make plays.

Patrick Peterson - " goes low too much as a tackler-it drives me nuts. I'm usually dialed in to height-weight-speed prospects, but he is horrible freelancing. He's not good with his back to the ball. If he lands in our division, bombs away. "

For all those that want to give up a huge chunk of the draft to move up to get this guy, let the record reflect I am against it.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Does that make you not want to move up for Peterson? IMO, it's a valid concern to have..

Not at all. Peterson is probably too good to let Camp drag him down. And Campo is on his last legs anyway

But I would be lying if I said the combination of a, lets be honest, preening Deion wannabe and a weak secondary coach doesnt have more bust potential than a prospect the caliber of Peterson should really have.

What happens if hes hearing talk that hes not making enough plays and decides to gamble when its not there?

I dont have any questions of his speed, balls skills, hips, or anything like that. But its fair to wonder if he will put in the work when he said he doesnt watch film of anyone else and neither does his secondary coach

Again, with apologies to Hos, I tend to side with the scouts I talked to a while back regarding Peterson. His future is playing safety in this league facing the ball. This guy simply agree's as do most I talk to.

With that said it does not change my opinion of him. I have always slotted Peterson as a safety and would still move up to 5 to take him.

Whatever physical tools a DB needs to be successful, I think Peterson has it. I think he can be a complete difference maker at either spot. You can always teach technique

 

[realtick]

The comment about Baldwin's hands almost made me stop reading. I dont know of anyone who thinks he has the best hands in this draft, if anything the biggest knock on him is his consistency.

Not to mention the comment that Gabe Carimi "is not powerful." Lol, what? Ask Adrian Clayborn or Cameron Heyward what they think of Camiri.

 

[JBS]

Forgot to add this..

Some of the interesting anonymous quotes from scouts, or a scout, per PFW draft mag in their section, "what the scouts are saying"...def the best part of the mag...

From Newton-Sash

 

[The Realist]

Interesting comment on UT players.

Ireland made a comment that some schools have programs that are run like country clubs while he was here and some speculated he was talking about UT.

It's difficult to find UT players that play to their draft status that's for sure.

Orakpo, Hampton...............

Am I missing anyone?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Thanks, Glorydays, this feature is some of the best info we get every year.

 

[CanuckCowboysFan]

What a cluck. Compared Kerrigan to Vanden Bosch and Sash to Zbikowski, Giordano AND Considine like MB4 said?

POS.

 

[UnoDallas]

Jimmy Smith

Unfortunately, Smith has major character concerns. He tested positive for drugs at Colorado and was also arrested twice. During the team interviews, Smith reportedly admitted to only one arrest, which draws yet another red flag

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Now that I've read them all (and just missed the editing window), is Will Rackley in many mocks around here? Sounds good at a position we need.

BTW, every year, one of the scouts here was C.O. Brocato, the long time, award winning scout from the Titans.

 

[casmith07]

Scouts: they hate everyone.