Seahawks defensive depth chart

[Nova]

It's been mentioned, but you really can't trade Claiborne. He won't fetch anything worthwhile.

Now if you wanted to use that approach of trading a player, Carter is just about the only guy that makes decent sense to trade.

Carter won't get you much in return but he'd get more in return than Claiborne.

He's not that vital to this team's success so losing him won't be THE thing to break the defense, and considering he likely won't be here after next year anyway, why not just go ahead and get something in return for him?

In fact, I'm in favor of such a move. Far too often we make the mistake of overpaying someone or letting them walk and getting nothing in return.

 

[Galian Beast]

Why secondary when that part of the discussion was about Durant the LB? McCray is a secondary player.

Claiborne's 2.6M salary in 2015 is even more reason that a team will not trade for him unless he has a good year in 2014. And again, if he has a good year, there is no reason to trade him.

Do you think the secondary is fundamentally different from the linebacker corps in the idea that you need to have veteran backups?

If he improves a team would resign him long term upon being traded. Regardless of how well he does next year, he doesn't fit this scheme.

 

[coult44]

Chris Clemons was obtained in a trade. Clifton McDonald was also obtained in a trade.

There is no reason to cut Durant before training camp. They can bring him to camp and if they have better options, then they can cut him. He was good when he played MLB. They don't really have a backup MLB, especially if Holloman were to win a job as an OLB.


You would get next to nothing for him if he does not improve. If he does improve, then there would be no need to trade him. Getting picks for unwanted players is generally a fantasy.


What does this mean? Cut early? His salary is guaranteed once the season starts.

I don't have a problem cutting Ware; however, I would be OK keeping him with a huge pay cut. I doubt he would take a big enough pay cut to make it worth keeping him, but you never know.

You are too worried about salary. I'm sick of the "what's the point of cutting them" talk. Thats the logic of why we've sucked for 18+ years. If they've not been able to play, cut them. If they used to be able to play, cut them. If they are continuously injured, cut them. Fill their spots with minimum wage guys, what's the difference? This includes Lee. One more year to prove he can play an entire season. If not, bye bye. Accountability is the name of the game. Upside, potential, cap friendly, former star, should all be things of the past. There is no excuse for the Seahawks to have been able to be rebuilt TWICE, before we were once. It's time to poop or get off the pot!!!

 

[Leadbelly]

Interesting.

Oakland has more cap space than anybody IIRC. I doubt they let Houston leave. Also, I think he would be a 3-tech DT in Marinelli's scheme. I don't know if he would want to move from 4-3 DE to 4-3 DT.

I like the Mike Neal signing. It's probably going to take a like more to sign him.

Jimmie Ward would be a good pick IF he makes it to the 3rd round. Physically, he looks like a CB, which is a good thing for a FS, IMO. He is not a real physical player and his tackling is ugly, but generally effective. He is the type of Safety that the Cowboys need, IMO; although, I don't know if another mid-round young Safety is really a cure for the Cowboys. I love the youth movement with the roster in general, but having 2 young starting Safeties is a difficult position to be in.

Alex Albright was originally on IR, but I think they gave him an injury settlement and cut him loose.

I'm a little iffy on Hageman and Sam. Hageman has terrific physical ability, but he seems to disappear a lot.

I like some things about Sam. He does have really long arms to offset his lack of height, but a smaller type DE he doesn't have the elite burst that I would like to see in a WDE.

If Durant is on the team, I see him as the backup MLB. He was good at that spot in limited action this past season. I expect Holloman to push to start at OLB and I don't expect him to be practicing MLB.

There are in bad shape if Orie Lemon is still on the roster. He is not a good option as a 4-3 LB, IMO. His best chance is to play ILB for a 3-4 team. He looked more like a lineman than a LB on his return stint this season.

Thanks. From what I've read, Oakland isn't going to tag Houston and he thinks free agency is a definite. Maybe he's got Greg Ellis syndrome and he's just paranoid about Oakland not professing their love enough. Maybe just negotiating. No idea.

If he hit free agency though, I think he's the best and most realistic free agency fit for Marinelli's ideal 3-tech DT. As much as I like Donald and Easley in the draft, any rookie is a question and most take time to learn. Houston has already answered the questions and he's likely millions cheaper than Melton. There might be some question of him transferring skills from DE to DT, but he looks like a pretty perfect fit to me. Better to have the rook DT at 1-tech, whoever it is. Hageman may not become Kevin Williams but I think his floor is still a very good DT who can collapse the pocket and push the QBs toward the DEs.

As far as draft picks, swap in the guys you like. Who would you take? What I'm getting at is, realistically, we couldn't expect to add more than three guys in the draft who contribute significantly on defense, plus a high quality DT free agent and another versatile DL as lower cost depth. We will have…

• improved the DTs significantly
• improved the depth at DE
• added a potential replacement for Ware that allows us to move on in 2015 if he has another injury-riddled season
• added a FS prospect with great range and cover skills

Maybe Von Miller can be snagged from Denver in a Charles Haley kind of trade for WLB. I imagine we have a pretty good shot when he hits free agency in 2015 anyway.