Sean McVay is what we wanted JG to be

[gimmesix]

Garrett inherited an old, declining team that was weak on the offensive and defensive lines at a time when Jerry was running the draft.

He had to fight to get Jerry to release Gurode, James, Brooking, etc.

Garret preached youth.

He had to convince Jerry to stop wasting first-round picks on shiny toys and build the offensive line.

He had to endure Jerry's daliances with guys like Greg Hardy and Randy Gregory.

For those things, I'll always appreciate Garrett.

But it's time.

I agree that it hasn't been all good or all bad with Garrett. We live in a world of extremes when the truth is generally somewhere in between.

I think Garrett is a good motivator. I think he's good at providing structure. I think he's good at establishing a process for building with youth (although I haven't agreed with the idea that you can't supplement that process with a few great pieces to move it along at a faster pace.)

My main problems with him are his offensive philosophy and his game management. These two aspects of his coaching hold us back.

Essentially, Garrett is the opposite of Wade Phillips. Phillips is a great defensive mind who can't run a team. Garrett is a so-so offensive mind who can. The only hope we have left with Garrett is that Dallas turns the offense over to a great offensive mind and allows him to just be a manager-type coach instead of a system coach. It cannot be another situation where we bring in an OC who then has to meld his system with Garrett's philosophy.

 

[Dre11]

Talking about head to head matchups. You brought up the Saints game and I was just pointing out that while our staff did a better job that game, I wouldn't claim the Cowboys coaching staff is better than the Saints based on such a small sample.

And yes, I wouldn't think Garrett is better than Carroll either, even though we beat the Seahawks a few weeks ago. There's a danger in putting way too much value in some random games instead of looking at entire resumes.

Because you're a hypocrite, you said McVay did so much vs as staff as a huge victory and indication that made them much better than our staff, yet you downplayed what our staff did vs the nfl's best team's staff.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

And yet he still coached them well.

Why is it so tough for you to admit that? Why are you Garrett guys so reticent to admit the real possibility that McVay is probably a better coach?

He's beaten Garrett twice in head to head games. He's won more playoff games in 2 years than Garrett has won in 8. He's been to a NFCCG game and a SB, something Garrett has never done.

Why is it that he's just the beneficiary of a talented team and that poor old Jason just hasn't had such great luck?

I did admit that mcvay has coached them well. I did clearly mention they didn't need to rebuild, just rescheme. That's exactly what he did. that's exactly what he needed. I never said McVay wasn't a better coach. I just mentioned that he is not necessarily a miracle worker and that he has a lot of talent he is working with, but given the talent he has, he made it work. what's so hard for you to understand that?

 

[GMO415]

The rams changed their fortunes rather quickly.

Talent can do that.....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Jerry has meddled to this coaches benefit.

Jerry has gave this guy everything he needs to have success and the only thing he provides is mediocre results because he's a mediocre coach.

Jerry has even built teams for him that basically takes all coaching out of account and puts all the pressure on our run game to impose their will on teams.

Jerry has done his job. Jerry's biggest mistake to himself and the fans is not getting a legit coach to make this thing fly.

jerry is the problem. jerry has always been the problem. jerry will continue to be the problem, with this coach, previous coach, the coach before that and the one before that. as long as there is jerry, not even the great bilicheck would find success. jerry hasnt' done his job as a GM. he has failed and failed miserably. over and over and over and over again.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Never Garrett.

no doubt...but who is the next McVay? this is not about garrett.... list the names, lets track their careers and lets see how people do. almost everyone scratched their head when McVay was hired. now, everyone is madly in love....like I said, hindsight is 20/20

 

[Doomsay]

no doubt...but who is the next McVay? this is not about garrett.... list the names, lets track their careers and lets see how people do. almost everyone scratched their head when McVay was hired. now, everyone is madly in love....like I said, hindsight is 20/20

We won’t know if we never try.

 

[CATCH17]

jerry is the problem. jerry has always been the problem. jerry will continue to be the problem, with this coach, previous coach, the coach before that and the one before that. as long as there is jerry, not even the great bilicheck would find success. jerry hasnt' done his job as a GM. he has failed and failed miserably. over and over and over and over again.

Outside of finding a real coach to coach this thing I don't see Jerry as some major problem anymore.

Garrett has had what he needs to succeed and skipping Free Agency is something that it seems like the entire organization is on board with.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Here we are after 9yrs.

9 years? Are you forgetting the 4 years he was OC? Its being like 14 years and counting.

 

[Zman5]

The rams changed their fortunes rather quickly.

Both Rams and the EaGirls went/going to the SB two years after hiring a new coach. And we are still stuck in mud with the Clapper.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

We won’t know if we never try.

we tried with garrett and got average results...we need to try the next. Jerry worries me

 

[jrumann59]

I will give the rams their due their coach is good too bad their QB is a fraud and needs his HC to talk him through his reads during the game during the snap.

 

[kwcool619]

Here we are after 9yrs.

Yup. What is there more to say about this beside JG not being more innovative on offense?​

 

[lukin2006]

It will never happen, JG and this entire staff need replacing. The scheme and playbook are outdated. I sometimes wonder if he's afraid of change because he would not want to offend his buddy Jimmy Johnson. Is this not Johnsons playbook and scheme for the most part.