Sean Taylor Case Update - 3 Detained In Homicide

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Just saw this.....some details.

http://www.miamiherald.com/854/story/326894.html#recent_comm


3 detained in Sean Taylor homicide

Posted on Fri, Nov. 30, 2007


BY MANNY GARCIA AND DAVID OVALLE

dovalle@miamiherald.com

Miami-Dade detectives have detained at least three people in Lee County for questioning in the death of Washington Commanders football star Sean Taylor.
Investigators believe the young men learned of Taylor's house through someone who unwittingly set up the burglary by bragging about the football star's wealth.
The suspects include a teenager and two men in their 20s who hail from the Fort Myers area.
The former University of Miami star was not supposed to be home. While the Commanders played in Tampa, he had come home to get a second medical opinion on his injured knee.
Florida Department of Law Enforcement agents and Miami-Dade homicide detectives picked up the young men Friday morning.
Taylor was shot early Monday by an intruder who surprised him in the bedroom of his Palmetto Bay home. He wielded a machete as he tried to protect his fiancee, Jackie Garcia, and their 18-month-old baby girl. The two were hiding under the covers as Taylor was shot. One bullet pierced the wall. The other struck Taylor in the groin, severing his femoral artery and causing massive blood loss. He died later at Jackson Memorial Hospital.
 

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lspain1;1802314 said:
Just saw this.....some details.

http://www.miamiherald.com/854/story/326894.html#recent_comm


3 detained in Sean Taylor homicide

Posted on Fri, Nov. 30, 2007


BY MANNY GARCIA AND DAVID OVALLE

dovalle@miamiherald.com

Miami-Dade detectives have detained at least three people in Lee County for questioning in the death of Washington Commanders football star Sean Taylor.
Investigators believe the young men learned of Taylor's house through someone who unwittingly set up the burglary by bragging about the football star's wealth.
The suspects include a teenager and two men in their 20s who hail from the Fort Myers area.
The former University of Miami star was not supposed to be home. While the Commanders played in Tampa, he had come home to get a second medical opinion on his injured knee.
Florida Department of Law Enforcement agents and Miami-Dade homicide detectives picked up the young men Friday morning.
Taylor was shot early Monday by an intruder who surprised him in the bedroom of his Palmetto Bay home. He wielded a machete as he tried to protect his fiancee, Jackie Garcia, and their 18-month-old baby girl. The two were hiding under the covers as Taylor was shot. One bullet pierced the wall. The other struck Taylor in the groin, severing his femoral artery and causing massive blood loss. He died later at Jackson Memorial Hospital.
Is that why they busted in the bedroom door and didn't take anything?

I'm just asking...
 

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I bet they were going for the safe, since they were coming back. If they did it, they should get the death penalty.
 

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You hate to speculate in tragic events like this, but most robbers I have ever read about don't go into bedrooms in the middle of the night brandishing a weapon. Seems really strange. Perhaps the intruders were doing this for the first time, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.

I was annoyed how this was portrayed from the beginning as a robbery or burglary (what's the difference) gone bad? The result is murder. Breaking a window and stealing a DVD player from the basement is a robbery.

Going into someone's bedroom with a brandished and loaded gun is murder if you ask me. Doesn't make sense to me unless they were totally unaware anyone was home OR wanted to get info from the Taylors, whatever. I sure hope the police are looking at it from a Murder angle and aren't guessing this is a bungled heist.

Stupid, tragic, and terrible, regardless.

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LarryCanadian;1802372 said:
You hate to speculate in tragic events like this, but most robbers I have ever read about don't go into bedrooms in the middle of the night brandishing a weapon. Seems really strange. Perhaps the intruders were doing this for the first time, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.

I was annoyed how this was portrayed from the beginning as a robbery or burglary (what's the difference) gone bad? The result is murder. Breaking a window and stealing a DVD player from the basement is a robbery.

Going into someone's bedroom with a brandished and loaded gun is murder if you ask me. Doesn't make sense to me unless they were totally unaware anyone was home OR wanted to get info from the Taylors, whatever. I sure hope the police are looking at it from a Murder angle and aren't guessing this is a bungled heist.

Stupid, tragic, and terrible, regardless.

LarryCanadian

Sorry Larry but that is not correct---There was a time when a burglar was
a burglar --He stole for a living and rarely carried a weapon. In our society today with gang bangers and drugs --you can count on the burglar having a weapon of some sort.
Killing some one during a burglary is murder and carrys the death penality in many states
 

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Not trying to be funny but I actually wondered if anybody even thought OJ Simpson might be a suspect. He lives in the area and definetely has a history of killing people and robbery. Police need to check his wherabouts on Monday Morning....
 

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justbob

It's probably my Canadian roots showing through. We have lots of gangs and such here in Vancouver as well, but few home invasions of this nature where a weapon is involved. The vast majority of robberies and burglaries in Vancouver are done by drug addicts that need a quick grab to pawn and get their next hit. These folks aren't organized crime and rarely carry a weapon. Still fewer firearms in Canada, so my perception may very well be off.

I sure hope whomever did this is charged with Murder.

Just stupid. Sounds like Taylor was maturing and getting his life turned around. Not that it makes it any easier or changes anything, but in many ways you hope it's something random and not people he knew trying to take advantage of him and his family.

LarryCanadian
 

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FloridaRob;1802397 said:
Not trying to be funny but I actually wondered if anybody even thought OJ Simpson might be a suspect. He lives in the area and definetely has a history of killing people and robbery. Police need to check his wherabouts on Monday Morning....

Yes. I'll second that.

And by way of saving time. Fry O.J.
 

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FloridaRob;1802397 said:
Not trying to be funny but I actually wondered if anybody even thought OJ Simpson might be a suspect. He lives in the area and definetely has a history of killing people and robbery. Police need to check his wherabouts on Monday Morning....
lmao..are you serious?

:laugh2::bang2::bang2::bang2:
 

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LarryCanadian;1802409 said:
justbob

It's probably my Canadian roots showing through. We have lots of gangs and such here in Vancouver as well, but few home invasions of this nature where a weapon is involved. The vast majority of robberies and burglaries in Vancouver are done by drug addicts that need a quick grab to pawn and get their next hit. These folks aren't organized crime and rarely carry a weapon. Still fewer firearms in Canada, so my perception may very well be off.

I sure hope whomever did this is charged with Murder.

Just stupid. Sounds like Taylor was maturing and getting his life turned around. Not that it makes it any easier or changes anything, but in many ways you hope it's something random and not people he knew trying to take advantage of him and his family.

LarryCanadian

There is a difference in crime scenes(from country to country) ---I have looked at scenes from both---
Robbery by defination requires the victim be afraid of bodly injury..

most burglars havea weapon (even if it is the tool used to break end) and will
use it if surprised --The weapons do change from country to country
 

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lol for those that dont understand, or just cant read.

it clearly says they thought"The former University of Miami star was not supposed to be home"

maybe thats why they went into the room? and maybe when they saw taylor got scared and fired out of instinct?

not everything has to be a conspiracy
 

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Would it make a difference that Taylor had a weapon and was willing to defend himself and his family?

I have never understood how that should play a role in the perpetrators penalty. I mean, particularly in the US where the Constitution gives the right to bear arms (I always thought this to be partially intended to protect one's family). Now if you go outside to confront a robber that's one thing, but if you are in your bedroom with a wife and child and have a weapon, does this change the potential charge against intruders?

LarryCanadian
 

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I might be bringing up a different scenario but i'll sare....

First time someone broke in, they left a kitchen knife, or whatever on his bed. What? I forgot to take it or put it back! In the hood this is a sign for "I'm gonna get ya". I agree that he has turning his life around but the truth is, he was still in his hood. He knew there was danger and said to himself, "this is my house and my hood and I am not going anywhere"

Let's see someone is after me and I have my girl and my baby here....I'm out of here! not for me but for there protection. Ok. He was not suppose to be there, any chances that this person wanted to hurt his girl and his baby since he loved them more than anything. How do you hurt someone where it hurts the most?

Again, that is just my two cents...
 

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LarryCanadian;1802436 said:
Would it make a difference that Taylor had a weapon and was willing to defend himself and his family?

I have never understood how that should play a role in the perpetrators penalty. I mean, particularly in the US where the Constitution gives the right to bear arms (I always thought this to be partially intended to protect one's family). Now if you go outside to confront a robber that's one thing, but if you are in your bedroom with a wife and child and have a weapon, does this change the potential charge against intruders?

LarryCanadian

You have the right to use deadly force to protect youself or a third party --if your life is in danger ----a burglar breaking into your house would fit your question
The fact that the suspects broke in and killed Sean (even during a burglary)

(even if Sean has a weapon) makes it capital murder in most states
 

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FloridaRob;1802397 said:
Not trying to be funny but I actually wondered if anybody even thought OJ Simpson might be a suspect. He lives in the area and definetely has a history of killing people and robbery. Police need to check his wherabouts on Monday Morning....

OJ doesn't use a gun. He uses a knife. :D
 

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Thanks justbob.

As for the comment "no-one was suppossed to be home" that seems a bit conspiratist itself doesn't it. I mean how the heck were they suppossed to know Taylor, and in particular somebody else, wasn't "suppossed to be" home. That is inside info isn't it. Seems pre-meditated fact gathering. Would suggest someone close to the Taylors providing information.

The previous break in and knife on the bed made the whole "robbery" thing seem ridiculous. Now I have no idea if these are the same folks, but I'd certainly investigate a connection between the two events and it smells a lot more like an attempted murder than a cash grab.

As for the "hood". I don't know a ton about the Taylors' home, but the one picture looked like a gated million dollar home, not the "hood". I think I get what you mean and that you are alluding to a lifestyle/network and that he hadn't yet escaped some elements from his past.

Keith Davis could have been in the same situation. There are a lot of details that nobody wants to have come out in things like this.

LarryCanadian
 

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LatinMind;1802430 said:
lol for those that dont understand, or just cant read.

it clearly says they thought"The former University of Miami star was not supposed to be home"

maybe thats why they went into the room? and maybe when they saw taylor got scared and fired out of instinct?

not everything has to be a conspiracy
Good points but I'm still somewhat skeptical on this. And no one that I'm aware of is alleging a conspiracy. The Miami cops might just be on the wrong track, that's all.

This, to me, could still very easily go either way.
 

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LarryCanadian;1802494 said:
Thanks justbob.

As for the comment "no-one was suppossed to be home" that seems a bit conspiratist itself doesn't it. I mean how the heck were they suppossed to know Taylor, and in particular somebody else, wasn't "suppossed to be" home. That is inside info isn't it. Seems pre-meditated fact gathering. Would suggest someone close to the Taylors providing information.

The previous break in and knife on the bed made the whole "robbery" thing seem ridiculous. Now I have no idea if these are the same folks, but I'd certainly investigate a connection between the two events and it smells a lot more like an attempted murder than a cash grab.

As for the "hood". I don't know a ton about the Taylors' home, but the one picture looked like a gated million dollar home, not the "hood". I think I get what you mean and that you are alluding to a lifestyle/network and that he hadn't yet escaped some elements from his past.

Keith Davis could have been in the same situation. There are a lot of details that nobody wants to have come out in things like this.

LarryCanadian


I work for a Property Preservation Company. This house and neighborhood is not all that. On top of that, a gated million dollar home with no alarm? :rolleyes:
 
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