Secondary Concerns

[quickccc]

The Secondary an the OL unit are among my top two concerns for this team.
(and i'm taking for granted that we'll be tough vs run D")
We'll need a serviceable CBs for another year, and I feel a heckuva lot better with Awuzie staying
at CB rather than moving to safety and forcing him to make the adjustment in such limited time.

- Imo, while he has his flaws, I feel Awuzie is a better overall starter than either Brown or Lewis.
we should be able to maintain the slot so long as Brown is limited there. we'll make do with
Lewis as depth at the slot.

- The guy I am really counting on, is rookie Trevon Diggs, particularly because of
his ball skills and INT ability, length and already displaying that head-turns looking for the ball in air.
He may give up some plays while he learns the game and compete vs the better WRs, but he should
make more better plays than what he gives up. And by season's end, he should be our best CB.

- It maybe more the safety roles that may prove our biggest weaknesses heading into the season.
At this point i do not feel slightest comfort that journeyman like Darian Thompson being a starter.
Tends to have me really wondering if Clinton Dix is that bad and disappointing more than
Thompson is being that good as a starter.

- And is Donovan Wilson coming along.. or is there limitations that he is displaying that is not
prompting him to the starter status, .such as Thompson ?
i've always thought he has INT ball skills but i've not seen enough of him in man coverage
or support tackling to know how he is holding up or would hold up.

- Woods is one of those that i usually hear every year how good a camp he is having, but
when the reg season comes he's been just decent-serviceable to just get by with.
I think he does have range and INT skills, and he can man cover to a degree, but he has to finished
not dropping INTs, not being out of position as often and better overall tackler.
Doesn't speak volume when a running Saints QB is bowling you over with ease.

- Reggie Robinson is just converting to safety after much of camp at CB, i still think
his head is spinning trying to just get his feet settled at a certain position along with speed
and technical part of the NFL. But I wonder if he will be game active simply because of his
outstanding work in college at special teams where he blocked 4 kicks.

 

[Williamsboys]

Don't you mean the Cowboy's Suckandary.??

 

[JoeKing]

I'm not that concerned about the secondary. The pass rush will be good enough to cause problems with the opponent's passing game. Of course, this is all theoretical because they aren't revealing anything on tape.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

With two weeks before the first game, I think it's safe to say they're comfortable with the starters. We may scan the wires after the final cut-down for additional depth.

BTW.........You buying or selling Randy Gregory?????

 

[jazzcat22]

I'm not that concerned about the secondary. The pass rush will be good enough to cause problems with the opponent's passing game. Of course, this is all theoretical because they aren't revealing anything on tape.

Yes a good pass rush will help this secondary as well, we have good LB's to that will help.

 

[quickccc]

With two weeks before the first game, I think it's safe to say they're comfortable with the starters. We may scan the wires after the final cut-down for additional depth.

BTW.........You buying or selling Randy Gregory?????

i tend to doubt if we can get legit starter types to immediately hep us right off the waiver wire. Who'd be willing to let those go ?
If there were vet casual cap cuts to starters, that would have happened awhile back.
If anything it would be two weeks into the season when salary is not guaranteed.

At this late point, it's becoming apparent Goodell is determined to not let Randy play this year,.. and to make matters worse NFLPA union not apparently trying to help him either.

 

[ItzKelz]

Don't you mean the Cowboy's Suckandary.??

If our secondary sucks no one knows cause they darn sure didn't show anything in that blue/white scrimmage.

 

[Tangle_Foot]

What about primary concerns

 

[Jake]

If our secondary sucks no one knows cause they darn sure didn't show anything in that blue/white scrimmage.

That's a good thing. We don't want anyone to know. Fans don't need to know anything in advance. I'd like to but not at the expense of the team.

 

[xwalker]

The Secondary an the OL unit are among my top two concerns for this team.
(and i'm taking for granted that we'll be tough vs run D")
We'll need a serviceable CBs for another year, and I feel a heckuva lot better with Awuzie staying
at CB rather than moving to safety and forcing him to make the adjustment in such limited time.

- Imo, while he has his flaws, I feel Awuzie is a better overall starter than either Brown or Lewis.
we should be able to maintain the slot so long as Brown is limited there. we'll make do with
Lewis as depth at the slot.

- The guy I am really counting on, is rookie Trevon Diggs, particularly because of
his ball skills and INT ability, length and already displaying that head-turns looking for the ball in air.
He may give up some plays while he learns the game and compete vs the better WRs, but he should
make more better plays than what he gives up. And by season's end, he should be our best CB.

- It maybe more the safety roles that may prove our biggest weaknesses heading into the season.
At this point i do not feel slightest comfort that journeyman like Darian Thompson being a starter.
Tends to have me really wondering if Clinton Dix is that bad and disappointing more than
Thompson is being that good as a starter.

- And is Donovan Wilson coming along.. or is there limitations that he is displaying that is not
prompting him to the starter status, .such as Thompson ?
i've always thought he has INT ball skills but i've not seen enough of him in man coverage
or support tackling to know how he is holding up or would hold up.

- Woods is one of those that i usually hear every year how good a camp he is having, but
when the reg season comes he's been just decent-serviceable to just get by with.
I think he does have range and INT skills, and he can man cover to a degree, but he has to finished
not dropping INTs, not being out of position as often and better overall tackler.
Doesn't speak volume when a running Saints QB is bowling you over with ease.

- Reggie Robinson is just converting to safety after much of camp at CB, i still think
his head is spinning trying to just get his feet settled at a certain position along with speed
and technical part of the NFL. But I wonder if he will be game active simply because of his
outstanding work in college at special teams where he blocked 4 kicks.

I'm not all that concerned with the secondary. They have many options.
Awuzie/Brown/Lewis are known commodities at CB. Maybe not great, at least NFL average if not better.
Add Diggs/Worley and there is some depth and potential high upside with Diggs.
I'm curious about Westry. He is very long with excellent speed.

Worst Case Worley is one of the starters. He played both Safety and CB last season and was decent.
Woods is around NFL average and maybe slightly better.
Thompson started a full season for the Giants a few years ago. This scheme should hide his weaknesses.
HaHa has a lot of experience.
Wilson looked great in the preseason last year.
Robinson is an upside guy that needs a year to learn.

OLine
Many options on the interior.
Swing Tackle Erving started 8 games at LT last season for the Super Bowl champions.

 

[DanA]

I think the CB group we have is actually better than people are giving credit, and I think Worley is one in particular that is being slept on.

The safeties are a weakness though. Darian Thompson is a 4.6 to 4.7 forty guy so it’s hard to see packages where him and Woods interchange as many have said. Thompson does have ball skills though, and is pretty solid against the run. Just don’t expect him to cover the ground that guys like Earl Thomas do.

 

[gimmesix]

Forgot who the Eagles corner was who said quite a few years ago that the secret to his success was that he didn't have to cover long thanks to DL pressure. Hope that's the case for us.

 

[plasticman]

I consider the starters in the secondary to be a primary concern.

The second team.....more of a tertiary concern.

 

[Cowboyny]

The Secondary an the OL unit are among my top two concerns for this team.
(and i'm taking for granted that we'll be tough vs run D")
We'll need a serviceable CBs for another year, and I feel a heckuva lot better with Awuzie staying
at CB rather than moving to safety and forcing him to make the adjustment in such limited time.

- Imo, while he has his flaws, I feel Awuzie is a better overall starter than either Brown or Lewis.
we should be able to maintain the slot so long as Brown is limited there. we'll make do with
Lewis as depth at the slot.

- The guy I am really counting on, is rookie Trevon Diggs, particularly because of
his ball skills and INT ability, length and already displaying that head-turns looking for the ball in air.
He may give up some plays while he learns the game and compete vs the better WRs, but he should
make more better plays than what he gives up. And by season's end, he should be our best CB.

- It maybe more the safety roles that may prove our biggest weaknesses heading into the season.
At this point i do not feel slightest comfort that journeyman like Darian Thompson being a starter.
Tends to have me really wondering if Clinton Dix is that bad and disappointing more than
Thompson is being that good as a starter.

- And is Donovan Wilson coming along.. or is there limitations that he is displaying that is not
prompting him to the starter status, .such as Thompson ?
i've always thought he has INT ball skills but i've not seen enough of him in man coverage
or support tackling to know how he is holding up or would hold up.

- Woods is one of those that i usually hear every year how good a camp he is having, but
when the reg season comes he's been just decent-serviceable to just get by with.
I think he does have range and INT skills, and he can man cover to a degree, but he has to finished
not dropping INTs, not being out of position as often and better overall tackler.
Doesn't speak volume when a running Saints QB is bowling you over with ease.

- Reggie Robinson is just converting to safety after much of camp at CB, i still think
his head is spinning trying to just get his feet settled at a certain position along with speed
and technical part of the NFL. But I wonder if he will be game active simply because of his
outstanding work in college at special teams where he blocked 4 kicks.

-I still believe we will see Awuzie playing a lot of reps as an outside corner. Certain packages he may be playing as the nickel corner/safety. When he does move inside, Worley is set to replace him.

-It appears Anthony Brown will start the season as the other outside corner. He will hold the starter position down until Diggs is ready. It appears Diggs will start the year 4th on the depth chart, will get his feet wet early on in the sub-packages. Not a big fan of Brown, but there have been very positive reports about him throughout camp.

-We both debated Thompson's roster spot prior to camp, I was more on the side that they would keep him due to his special teams abilities. I thought we was more of a liability then anything else when he needed to play for Heath last season. However, we are hearing he has had a tremendous camp. Does that mean Haha has been awful and might be a surprise release? We hear that they a safety hunting and have at least looked into signing Earl Thomas. I thought the position was going to be more of a strength prior to camp, but it's looking like one of the biggest problem areas at this time.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

I'm not that concerned about the secondary. The pass rush will be good enough to cause problems with the opponent's passing game. Of course, this is all theoretical because they aren't revealing anything on tape.

That didn't happen last year, and our starters got worse at pass rushing.

Theoretical and misplaced

 

[Doomsday101]

Going up against your own, not sure how much is says for the CB or WR? I expect many secondary to have a hard time with the Cowboys wideouts

 

[thunderpimp91]

I agree both areas are the biggest area of concern going into the season, but looking at thing from an optimist viewpoint I can't remember the last time we had this much depth at areas of concern.

I think we have the definition of league average players starting in both units, but we also have backups in both units capable of stepping right in and giving similar production. You also have some young guys who have a chance to get better as the year goes on.

If you can keep the big 3 healthy on the o line, and not have the safeties be the trainwreck we have had the past few years i think both units should be fine.

 

[Future]

The secondary will be fine. Top to bottom, the Cowboys corner depth is the same as the majority of NFL teams.

I'm worried about the OL, but just because of health concerns.

 

[McKDaddy]

Going up against your own, not sure how much is says for the CB or WR? I expect many secondary to have a hard time with the Cowboys wideouts

Steel sharpens steel. We should be better all around simply because we are practicing against better competition. If one side was dominating practice, i would be worried but with the secondary holding its own against the WR's sounds pretty balanced.

We don't have any elite players in our secondary but i think they are a solid group overall.

 

[OmerV]

I'm only worried about primary concerns ...