Seems that the two most overrated "elite" QBs

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Yes, let's crown Antonio brown because of one good game. Romo was failing with Terrell Owens. Whatever. Romo is trash. Put Ben on this team were 3-0.

One good game? He was playing great all of last year.
 

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Yes, let's crown Antonio brown because of one good game. Romo was failing with Terrell Owens. Whatever. Romo is trash. Put Ben on this team were 3-0.


What? Have you seen him play this year? Rings or not, He is not good right now, I agrre with the OP.
 

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Yes, let's crown Antonio brown because of one good game. Romo was failing with Terrell Owens. Whatever. Romo is trash. Put Ben on this team were 3-0.

Antonio Brown has averaged 65 yards a game the past 2 years on a team that doesn't throw the ball a lot, but that was because he had Mike Wallace to stretch the field for him, right? Well this year through 3 weeks being the #1 WR with NO Mile Wallace, Brown has 318 yards and 2 TDs, but he's trash, right?

Ben Roethlisberger is one of the QBs in the league that has benefited greatly from a GREAT supporting cast around him. Big Ben has hardly ever been asked to carry to team from behind, because their defense has been elite for the most part of his career. You seen tonight what happens when Big Ben is asked to carry the team on his back, which Romo has been asked to do pretty much his entire career here.

You said with Ben we'd be 3-0 this season? I'll go a step further, if we had Ben as our QB the past 2 seasons then we wouldn't even have eclipsed 8 wins with the 2 seasons combined, yet alone 1 season. Ben is a good QB, but to dismiss his TEAM around him that has been stellar for the majority of his career would be foolish.

It's obvious you're a Romo hater, it must have pained you to see Romo play the way he did today. Well you're going to be in for a pretty crappy year this year man, because Romo will put up more performances like the one tonight.

I shouldn't have even responded, it's obvious you're a clueless football fan. Enjoy hating.
 

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Yes, let's crown Antonio brown because of one good game. Romo was failing with Terrell Owens. Whatever. Romo is trash. Put Ben on this team were 3-0.

Romo is trash? LOL how idiotic.

You're pretty angry tonight about the Cowboys winning and Romo playing well, huh?
 

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Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe the last Super Bowl the Giants won, that year they ranked # 32 in running the football. I can't stand the team either, but to say that Eli can't get it done without a running game is just not doing your homework.
 

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Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe the last Super Bowl the Giants won, that year they ranked # 32 in running the football. I can't stand the team either, but to say that Eli can't get it done without a running game is just not doing your homework.

They won with that defense an pass rush. Eli is slightly above average qb, who somehow comes up big in big moments.
 

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Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe the last Super Bowl the Giants won, that year they ranked # 32 in running the football. I can't stand the team either, but to say that Eli can't get it done without a running game is just not doing your homework.

During the playoffs they avg 117 yards rushing per game compared to 89 during the season. Their D had 7 takeaways.
 

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They won with that defense an pass rush. Eli is slightly above average qb, who somehow comes up big in big moments.

Then thats what the original post should've suggested. But you cant say Eli cant win unless he has a ground game. Thats false.
 

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Their teams have rings...neither would have won one without a defense carrying them.

Okay but those quarterbacks are a part of that team. I know how this will end and I get it. I'm not some Eli apologist or Ben R homer but at the end of the day they have quarterbacked their teams to championships. People feel in order to like Romo you have to bash them. They are good quarterbacks who are struggling. Romo struggles as well. The OP's point was to suggest that without a defense they aren't what they were. I think there's part truth in that.
 

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Okay but those quarterbacks are a part of that team. I know how this will end and I get it. I'm not some Eli apologist or Ben R homer but at the end of the day they have quarterbacked their teams to championships. People feel in order to like Romo you have to bash them. They are good quarterbacks who are struggling. Romo struggles as well. The OP's point was to suggest that without a defense they aren't what they were. I think there's part truth in that.

Look at the Superbowls the Cowboys have won. Roger had Doomsday and Aikmen had a top 1 or 2 defense as well. Yes Qb's can win without a superior defense but it is so much easier to win when your defense gives up nothing. You can throw 2 int's and your defense will bail you out. You don't feel like you need to score on every play because you defense will bail you out. Or the defense will actually score for you. I hope Romo gets the same benefit as Roger and Troy because he has always played behind a crappy offensive line and a bad defense. He deserves a fair chance.
 
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Look at the Superbowls the Cowboys have won. Roger had Doomsday and Aikmen had a top 1 or 2 defense as well. Yes Qb's can win without a superior defense but it is so much easier to win when your defense gives up nothing. You can throw 2 int's and your defense will bail you out. You don't feel like you need to score on every play because you defense will bail you out. Or the defense will actually score for you. I hope Romo gets the same benefit as Roger and Troy because he has always played behind a crappy offensive and a bad defense. He deserves a fair chance.

I think if Romo gets us at least one SB championship or 2 NFC championships he will be Ring of Honor material.
 

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Look at the Superbowls the Cowboys have won. Roger had Doomsday and Aikmen had a top 1 or 2 defense as well. Yes Qb's can win without a superior defense but it is so much easier to win when your defense gives up nothing. You can throw 2 int's and your defense will bail you out. You don't feel like you need to score on every play because you defense will bail you out. Or the defense will actually score for you. I hope Romo gets the same benefit as Roger and Troy because he has always played behind a crappy offensive line and a bad defense. He deserves a fair chance.

Oh I agree with you. But let's don't forget that that Giants defense and running game Eli went to the Super Bowl with wasn't all-world. It had a defensive line that got better over time but that secondary was terrible as was the running game.
 

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minus the lucky plays that leave us Cowboys fans going....really?? Eli always has a ton of those

After a while it ceases to be luck and can only be attributable to skill.

That being said the list of QB that could carry a team successfully on their shoulders is a very short one.
 

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Yes, let's crown Antonio brown because of one good game. Romo was failing with Terrell Owens. Whatever. Romo is trash. Put Ben on this team were 3-0.

LOL, LOL!

You have to be a fan of another team, posting on this board.

Because nobody can honestly be that blind or stupid.
 
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