Self awareness/accountability

[Hawkeye19]

I don't think most understand how big of a mistake it was renegging on a contract agreement the previous year and then holding out for every last penny the next. This sort of thing not only puts a target on his back for everyone, but also affects him mentally. I actually see Dak as an honest good dude who got really bad advice. If he'd have played on the contract offered the previous year, he'd have made 2 mil more and it wouldn't have been an issue. Instead, he held out and got big contract and it has affected him mentally in a big way. My take.

We definitely should have signed him 2 years ago and just gotten it over with.

Not sure his mentality has been affected by the contract one way or another. He has had great games before and after the contract, and he has had some dismal games before and after the contract.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

So if Dak proves all of the doubters and critics wrong, you're going to own it correct? If Dak actually leads this team to the Super Bowl, while you challenge on of Dak's critics to own up to being wrong or is this just a one sided thing?

By the way a lot Dak supporters have admitted that he is playing horribly or is in a slump. Some just choose to believe that.

1. He can get out of the slump and get back to playing like he is was earlier in the season.
2. That the offense struggling for the last few weeks, isn't all on Dak and isn't only his fault. Or that he isn't solely to blame for it.

Others have chosen to give up on the season and throw in the towel, in your belief that this offense and Dak can't get back to how they were playing earlier in the season. Some Cowboys fans choose to always only look at things from a negative or pessimistic stand point, even when the Cowboys are winning games and are playing well. Then there's some who mainly only show up after a Cowboys loss or a Dak slump.

I praised him for the first 6 weeks of the season. I thought he was the MVP through 6 weeks.

I hope he proves me wrong. I'm a Cowboys fan and if Dak plays well then the Cowboys have a shot.

I just don't trust him to play well. When it comes to Dak the carriage always turns back into the pumpkin.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I'd bet the house on the field over Dak for the rest of career. That's for sure.

If Mahomes became the Cowboys QB right now you'd get rich betting on him winning a Super Bowl for the Cowboys before his career was over.

My question again was for QBs have had yet to win a Super Bowl. Which was why I included Mahomes, as he had already won one. One of the reasons for why Dak gets criticized is because he has yet to win a Super Bowl. So what QB drafted 2016 or after but without a SB win, would you bet the house on. Anyone can say that they would take the field over other QBs who have yet to win one.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

2016, Dak was a huge reason we were about to beat the packers in the division round of the playoffs but the defense couldn't get it done end of game. But yeah, that is on Dak in the eyes of a hater. If defense makes the stop, Dak is part of the reason we won, and in his rookie year mind you..

2018, Dak was a big part in beating the Seahawks in the wildcard round, then lost to Rams in the division round.... the team played poorly and couldn't stop the run and lost. Of course the offense wasn't great either, but that happens when you run into a better team and better coach.

Based on your metrics you would of written off Drew Brees as well since it took him and his team some time to find a winning formula..

That's the problem with you guys. You think Dak has the same career trajectory as literally all time greats.

What does Drew Brees have to do with Dak? Why does they way Drew Brees career turned out mean I have to think Daks will be similar?

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

That's the problem with you guys. You think Dak has the same career trajectory as literally all time greats.

What does Drew Brees have to do with Dak? Why does they way Drew Brees career turned out mean I have to think Daks will be similar?

Drew Brees went 7-9 for 3 seasons in a row and I'm sure had some fans who were doubting him and writing him off at the time during the course of this seasons. Of course it's easier to look back now after his career is over with and say that he is one of the all time greats. Point is that QBs who have had their careers or seasons written off due to slumps or losing seasons, have come back to have great seasons or won a SB.

Dak may not be at Drew Brees level but has shown that he is capable of making great throws and putting together some good games.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

My question again was for QBs have had yet to win a Super Bowl. Which was why I included Mahomes, as he had already won one. One of the reasons for why Dak gets criticized is because he has yet to win a Super Bowl. So what QB drafted 2016 or after but without a SB win, would you bet the house on. Anyone can say that they would take the field over other QBs who have yet to win one.

I don't criticize Dak because he has yet to win a Super Bowl. I criticize Dak because I flat out don't think he's a great QB. I think he is fools gold.

Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are two QBs that I believe would make someone rich if they bet on them leading their team to a Super Bowl win before their careers are over.

Again, I don't care about these guys. I care about Dak and his play because he plays for the Cowboys. I don't believe in him, but you do, but I guarantee if push came to shove you'd be on my side of things if forced to bet.

 

[phildadon86]

We lost 3 games in 2019 alone where our defense held teams to 12, 13, and 17.

Dak threw ZERO TDs in all three of those games COMBINED.

We went 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

Lol. I’m not even going to bother explaining the injuries in those games because you’ll just move the goal posts again.

you found 3 examples in a year span. What’s that tell you? Your hatred knows no bounds brother.

I think the biggest problem is Dak gets none of the praise when he plays well and all of the blame when the team loses. Even if it’s not all on him. That’s my issue at least. Quick to blame slow to praise. And I’m
On record saying Dak needs to play a lot better lol

 

[phildadon86]

I don't criticize Dak because he has yet to win a Super Bowl. I criticize Dak because I flat out don't think he's a great QB. I think he is fools gold.

Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are two QBs that I believe would make someone rich if they bet on them leading their team to a Super Bowl win before their careers are over.

Again, I don't care about these guys. I care about Dak and his play because he plays for the Cowboys. I don't believe in him, but you do, but I guarantee if push came to shove you'd be on my side of things if forced to bet.

Hahahahaha Josh Allen? The same one who only put up 6 points against the jaguars? You don’t even believe your own comments anymore. You can’t say Dak sucks because he failed to score touchdowns and then say Josh Allen is better when he failed to score a TD against one of the worst teams in the league. Get outta here man

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Drew Brees went 7-9 for 3 seasons in a row and I'm sure had some fans who were doubting him and writing him off at the time during the course of this seasons. Of course it's easier to look back now after his career is over with and say that he is one of the all time greats. Point is that QBs who have had their careers or seasons written off due to slumps or losing seasons, have come back to have great seasons or won a SB.

Dak may not be at Drew Brees level but has shown that he is capable of making great throws and putting together some good games.

Again, why do I have to suspend reality and believe that Dak will turn out just as great as a top 10 all time QB like Brees?

Drew Bress is a top 10 all time QB. Dak can't even be better than his rookie season.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Lol. I’m not even going to bother explaining the injuries in those games because you’ll just move the goal posts again.

you found 3 examples in a year span. What’s that tell you? Your hatred knows no bounds brother.

I think the biggest problem is Dak gets none of the praise when he plays well and all of the blame when the team loses. Even if it’s not all on him. That’s my issue at least. Quick to blame slow to praise. And I’m
On record saying Dak needs to play a lot better lol

I just answered the posters question.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Hahahahaha Josh Allen? The same one who only put up 6 points against the jaguars? You don’t even believe your own comments anymore. You can’t say Dak sucks because he failed to score touchdowns and then say Josh Allen is better when he failed to score a TD against one of the worst teams in the league. Get outta here man

Yes, Josh Allen, the same guy that finished 2nd in the MVP voting and had his team 1 game away from the Super Bowl a year ago in just his 3rd year.

Both things Dak has NEVER done.

 

[dfense]

I drink too much
And I know it.

Self aware and accountable.

 

[JoeKing]

Speaking of self-awareness... The posters with Rowdy avatars need to fix that unless you are a troll. I know a few members here including myself that ignored you until you care enough to get your own avatar.

 

[dfense]

What does Herbert have to do with Dak? That said, Herbert led the Chargers to a game leading TD with 2:19 left to play and the Chargers defense allowed the Chiefs to go 75 yards in 1:03 to tie the game with a TD.......but that's on Herbert? Nice try.

Off topic, but did you see Herbert stiff arm that LBer, keep him at arms length while he surveyed the field to throw a TD? impressive.

 

[Ranching]

I can feel the love! Salud, and Go Dak!

 

[JBS]

I gave him credit early on when he was playing well but realized that the running game was playing outstanding and without that Dak reveals himself as the average QB he is.

this isn’t entirely true at all. There have been numerous games in which the run game hasn’t been good and Dak has played very well. It’s unfortunate people just can’t call it like it is. He was good early, very good. He’s bad now, very bad at times. It is what it is.

 

[Rockport]

So you have a lot of self-hate I guess.

Just for people like you.

 

[Rockport]

LOL...you are the General Custer of Dak defending.

He was Army. No surprise he got all his men killed.

 

[USArmyVet]

How often has the Cowboys have a defense that has consistently been able to shut teams down, hold them to 20 points of less, get 3 and outs, force turnovers, and come up with important stops after the offense scores, while Dak was the QB. Of course of you'll try to exclude and eliminate certain years or seasons in order to fit your narrative that it's all and only Dak's fault.

Fit my narrative? What the hell did you just do? You guys are all the same: blame everyone but Dak for his crap play.

Dallas Cowboys defense average points given up by year:

2016: 19.125
2017: 20.75
2018: 20.25
2019: 20.06
2020: 29.26
2021: 22.08

So, outside of the 2020 season (in which Dak only played 4-1/2 games), the Dallas defense has been averaging at, just below, or just above 20 points/game average every season Dak has been the QB.

Furthermore, here are the number of games by season that the Dallas defense has given up more than 21 points in a game in which Dak played and Dak's record in those games:

2016: 5 games (4-1) (defense gave up an average of 25.8 points in these games)
2017: 6 games (0-6) (defense gave up an average of 34 points in these games)
2018: 7 games (4-3) (defense gave up an average of 25.7 points in these games)
2019: 6 games (1-5) (defense gave up an average of 28.3 points in these games)
2020: 4 games (2-2) (defense gave up an average of 40 points in these games)
2021: 5 games (2-3) (defense gave up an average of 30.1 points in these games)
Combined record: 12-20 .375 winning %


Lastly, here are the amount of games per season that the Dallas defense has given up less than 21 points in a game in which Dak played and Dak's record in those games:

2016: 10 games (8-2)
2017: 9 games (9-0)
2018: 9 games (6-3)
2019: 8 games (5-3)
2020: 1 game (0-1)
2021: 6 games (5-1)

Combined record: 33-10 .767 winning %


The point? In games that Dak has been the QB, there are more games in which the defense has given up less than 21 points than there have been where they gave up more than 21 points......and in the 10 games that Dak lost in which the defense has given up less than 21 points, the offense has averaged 12.1 points per game.....so even when the defense is playing well (as you say is constantly needed) Dak manages to lose those games.

 

[USArmyVet]

What’s amazing is next to Tom Brady since 2016 Dak leads the league in 4th quarter comebacks. Explain that. Or is it everyone else but Dak that gets the credit?

Dak's 4th quarter comebacks by year:

2016: 5
2017: 0
2018: 3
2019: 0
2020: 1
2021: 1


Yeah, keep hanging on to 2016 for all you are worth.

Oh, and Dak's game winning drives by year:

2016: 5
2017: 4
2018: 5
2019: 0
2020: 1
2021: 2

Seems the last 3 seasons Dak hasn't done much......unless you count put up personal stats.