Shanahan comment about Romo

[Kevinicus]

They got takeaways but they also had a QB who's TD to turnover ratio was 45-6 that season. The Cowboys have had a number of takeaways this season but winning still comes down to offensive efficiency and your QB not committing turnovers at the worst possible time.

Romo is on pace for 42 TDs and 6 Ints this year...and they're 2-3. There might be something to the whole defense thing.

 

[KJJ]

Romo is on pace for 42 TDs and 6 Ints this year...and they're 2-3. There might be something to the whole defense thing.

The defense is terrible and it's been the main problem but you can't afford an ill-timed turnover by your QB in the final 2 minutes of a winnable game. The poor defensive effort could have been overcome had it not been for the turnover. It was the same in the season finale last season. The defense was terrible but the Cowboys were still in a position to pull the game out in the end had it not been for Romo's turnover. When you're a mediocre team a lot of games are going to come down to the wire and your QB can't afford to make huge mistakes with games on the line. If your QB isn't clutch in those situations you'll never win a championship.

 

[KJJ]

If we lose to Philly in the last game we are eliminated. That's an elimination game for the Cowboys.

You're wrong had the Cowboys lost to Philly that would have made them 10-6 and they would have been heading to Philly the following week as the wildcard team. The game was for the division title and the loser would be the wildcard.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

The defense is terrible and it's been the main problem but you can't afford an ill-timed turnover by your QB in the final 2 minutes of a winnable game. The poor defensive effort could have been overcome had it not been for the turnover. It was the same in the season finale last season. The defense was terrible but the Cowboys were still in a position to pull the game out in the end had it not been for Romo's turnover. When you're a mediocre team a lot of games are going to come down to the wire and your QB can't afford to make huge mistakes with games on the line. If your QB isn't clutch in those situations you'll never win a championship.

and now that this kind of media narrative starts taking hold on its sympathetic listeners, suddenly everything gets spun to fit their story. Is the fact that his left foot was stomped on and he had to lift it as he was throwing not taken into consideration because it didn't affect his throw or is not mentioned because it doesn't fit the agenda/narrative?

 

[Rockport]

The defense is terrible and it's been the main problem but you can't afford an ill-timed turnover by your QB in the final 2 minutes of a winnable game. The poor defensive effort could have been overcome had it not been for the turnover. It was the same in the season finale last season. The defense was terrible but the Cowboys were still in a position to pull the game out in the end had it not been for Romo's turnover. When you're a mediocre team a lot of games are going to come down to the wire and your QB can't afford to make huge mistakes with games on the line. If your QB isn't clutch in those situations you'll never win a championship.

Must suck to be filled with so much hate.

 

[WV Cowboy]

The defense is terrible and it's been the main problem but you can't afford an ill-timed turnover by your QB in the final 2 minutes of a winnable game. The poor defensive effort could have been overcome had it not been for the turnover.

And why was it that the poor defensive effort could possibly be overcome?

You keep poking holes in your own theory.

 

[KJJ]

and now that this kind of media narrative starts taking hold on its sympathetic listeners, suddenly everything gets spun to fit their story. Is the fact that his left foot was stomped on and he had to lift it as he was throwing not taken into consideration because it didn't affect his throw or is not mentioned because it doesn't fit the agenda/narrative?

Some of you need to come to grips that Romo made a bad decision on the throw and even Garrett said so himself. Every time Romo turns the ball over in a critical situation FANS come on here and make excuses. When he threw the pick at the end of the Commander game in the season finale last year the excuse was his ribs were hurt and he had pressure in his face. When he fumbled the snap in Seattle during the 06 playoffs some FANS blamed it on a slick ball. Every mistake he makes FANS make excuses.

 

[KJJ]

Must suck to be filled with so much hate.

You tell me I have no hate for anyones opinions.

 

[Rockport]

You tell me I have no hate for anyones opinions.

Nice try at deflection, but you under estimate the intelligence of folks here.

 

[KJJ]

And why was it that the poor defensive effort could possibly be overcome?

You keep poking holes in your own theory.

The poor defensive effort could be overcome because Romo is a very productive QB who can put up big numbers but in the end it wasn't able to be overcome because he folds when it matters most in spotlighted games. Denver's defensive effort was worse than the Cowboys but they were able to overcome it with a great offensive performance and a huge mistake by Romo. Manning had a turnover but his didn't come deep in his own territory with the game on the line with only 2 minutes to play. Ill-timed mistakes in your own end of the field can't be overcome in the final minutes of a tight game.

 

[KJJ]

Nice try at deflection, but you under estimate the intelligence of folks here.

You're the one who underestimates the intelligence of some here. How intelligent is it to continue thinking the Cowboys are going to the SB this season?

 

[KJJ]

Oh yeah, the big threatening offense in Roy Williams and Miles Ham-Austin. What a fearsome year for the Cowboys. I remember the beating by Minnesota and Romo laying on his butt the whole game. None of those offense lineman made the cut long after that. The end of their days. Minnesota was 2nd in offense, 10th in defense and 8th in takeaways.Their pro bowl DL killed us. We were simply beat by a better football team.

Thought you said you were done? The Cowboys went 11-5 that season and Austin had a career year. That team beat a 13-0 Saints team in the DOME and finished the season with back to back shutouts. There wasn't a hotter team entering the playoffs than the Cowboys. They easily beat Philly in the playoffs. In the beat down in Minn during the playoffs the OL was horrible but Romo had 3 turnovers which has been customary for him during elimination games on the road. He's had 3 turnovers in 3 of his road elimination game losses.

 

[Dhragon]

The poor defensive effort could be overcome because Romo is a very productive QB who can put up big numbers but in the end it wasn't able to be overcome because he folds when it matters most in spotlighted games. Denver's defensive effort was worse than the Cowboys but they were able to overcome it with a great offensive performance and a huge mistake by Romo. Manning had a turnover but his didn't come deep in his own territory with the game on the line with only 2 minutes to play. Ill-timed mistakes in your own end of the field can't be overcome in the final minutes of a tight game.

Apparently your whole argument appears to be based around the "ill-timed mistakes" or mistakes at the worst time thing since you seem to be mentioning that in just about every one of your many posts in this thread. You are from the Skip Bayless tree of football knowledge (let that sink in for awhile).

Scenario 1: QB#1 throws an INT at the beginning of the game (NOT the worst possible time - right?) and his team goes down 0-7. They go back and forth from there on out and the final score is 49-56 the other team wins. So that guy must not be a choker right? After all, he didn't make his mistake at the worst time.

Scenario 2: QB#2 and his team are tied with another team 49-49 and has the ball with 2 minutes to go. He throws an INT and his team loses 49-56. Wow, he isn't clutch because of the timing of the INT. QB#1 sure is a more clutch QB. Wrong. Almost every QB makes an error or two every game. The good teams have other facets that got their QBs back and help him win the game.

There is NO difference in the TIMING of the mistake when the situation is that all it takes is for ONE mistake to cause you to lose. Every single player should be allowed one mistake a game, they are only human. Both games are lost in the scenarios above because of one mistake from the QB. Both result in a loss. I don't see how the timing affects the clutch factor.

And this is without throwing any excuses as to why the QB threw that INT (WR wrong route thrown, great defensive play, foot being stepped on lol, etc)

 

[Rockport]

Apparently your whole argument appears to be based around the "ill-timed mistakes" or mistakes at the worst time thing since you seem to be mentioning that in just about every one of your many posts in this thread. You are from the Skip Bayless tree of football knowledge (let that sink in for awhile).

Scenario 1: QB#1 throws an INT at the beginning of the game (NOT the worst possible time - right?) and his team goes down 0-7. They go back and forth from there on out and the final score is 49-56 the other team wins. So that guy must not be a choker right? After all, he didn't make his mistake at the worst time.

Scenario 2: QB#2 and his team are tied with another team 49-49 and has the ball with 2 minutes to go. He throws an INT and his team loses 49-56. Wow, he isn't clutch because of the timing of the INT. QB#1 sure is a more clutch QB. Wrong. Almost every QB makes an error or two every game. The good teams have other facets that got their QBs back and help him win the game.

There is NO difference in the TIMING of the mistake when the situation is that all it takes is for ONE mistake to cause you to lose. Every single player should be allowed one mistake a game, they are only human. Both games are lost in the scenarios above because of one mistake from the QB. Both result in a loss. I don't see how the timing affects the clutch factor.

And this is without throwing any excuses as to why the QB threw that INT (WR wrong route thrown, great defensive play, foot being stepped on lol, etc)

I wouldn't waste your time with this poster. As soon as you prove him wrong, which is rather easy, he misdirects the thread off into some other tangent. When you prove hime wrong on that point, he does the same thing again. Over and over and over.

 

[Dhragon]

I wouldn't waste your time with this poster. As soon as you prove him wrong, which is rather easy, he misdirects the thread off into some other tangent. When you prove hime wrong on that point, he does the same thing again. Over and over and over.

I doubt my example changed his mind (although having your football acumen compared to Skip Bayless should make anyone cringe - but he IS the one always going on and on about the "clutch gene") but it's always important to try, lol.

 

[Ring Leader]

Thought you said you were done? The Cowboys went 11-5 that season and Austin had a career year. That team beat a 13-0 Saints team in the DOME and finished the season with back to back shutouts. There wasn't a hotter team entering the playoffs than the Cowboys. They easily beat Philly in the playoffs. In the beat down in Minn during the playoffs the OL was horrible but Romo had 3 turnovers which has been customary for him during elimination games on the road. He's had 3 turnovers in 3 of his road elimination game losses.

Wouldn't the 13-0 Saints game qualify for your newest coined anti-Romo metric as a "spotlight game"? I also liked the way you gave sole credit to the aforementioned Saints game to "the team" and sidestepped any acknowledgement of Romo whatsoever in that victory. Your ability to hand harvest cherries is what legends are made of.

 

[KJJ]

Apparently your whole argument appears to be based around the "ill-timed mistakes" or mistakes at the worst time thing since you seem to be mentioning that in just about every one of your many posts in this thread. You are from the Skip Bayless tree of football knowledge (let that sink in for awhile).

Scenario 1: QB#1 throws an INT at the beginning of the game (NOT the worst possible time - right?) and his team goes down 0-7. They go back and forth from there on out and the final score is 49-56 the other team wins. So that guy must not be a choker right? After all, he didn't make his mistake at the worst time.

Scenario 2: QB#2 and his team are tied with another team 49-49 and has the ball with 2 minutes to go. He throws an INT and his team loses 49-56. Wow, he isn't clutch because of the timing of the INT. QB#1 sure is a more clutch QB. Wrong. Almost every QB makes an error or two every game. The good teams have other facets that got their QBs back and help him win the game.

There is NO difference in the TIMING of the mistake when the situation is that all it takes is for ONE mistake to cause you to lose. Every single player should be allowed one mistake a game, they are only human. Both games are lost in the scenarios above because of one mistake from the QB. Both result in a loss. I don't see how the timing affects the clutch factor.

And this is without throwing any excuses as to why the QB threw that INT (WR wrong route thrown, great defensive play, foot being stepped on lol, etc)

My argument is based around Romo's ill-timed mistakes in "spotlighted" games. Those are the games that go into time capsules that fans remember. It's the magnitude of a game that makes a play memorable. Had Jackie Smith's drop in SB 13 occurred in week 5 of the 1978 season no one would remember it. Smith made many great plays during his HOF career but he's remembered for one bad play because it happened in a SB the Cowboys ended up losing. Leon Lett was a good player but all anyone remembers him for was 2 stupid mistakes when the Nation was watching. Joe Montana choked like a dog in some regular season games it happens to all QB's but he was MONEY in the spotlighted games. Those are the games and plays everyone remembers.

He didn't have a clean pocket when hit Clark in the back of the end zone in the 81 NFC title game. If Romo is in that same situation and throws a pick FANS here will use the excuse he had pressure in his face to defend him. Danny White outplayed Montana for 57 minutes in that title game but all anyone remembers about the game was The Catch and The Fumble. Great QB's find ways to get it done when it matters most. If Romo could come through just ONCE in a critical situation during a significant game it would go a long way to changing the negative perception many have of him.

 

[KJJ]

Wouldn't the 13-0 Saints game qualify for your newest coined anti-Romo metric as a "spotlight game"? I also liked the way you gave sole credit to the aforementioned Saints game to "the team" and sidestepped any acknowledgement of Romo whatsoever in that victory. Your ability to hand harvest cherries is what legends are made of.

The Saints game in 09 was clearly a "spotlighted game" but Romo was never in a come from behind situation in that game try following my posts.

 

[dboyz]

The defense is terrible and it's been the main problem but you can't afford an ill-timed turnover by your QB in the final 2 minutes of a winnable game. The poor defensive effort could have been overcome had it not been for the turnover. It was the same in the season finale last season. The defense was terrible but the Cowboys were still in a position to pull the game out in the end had it not been for Romo's turnover. When you're a mediocre team a lot of games are going to come down to the wire and your QB can't afford to make huge mistakes with games on the line. If your QB isn't clutch in those situations you'll never win a championship.

Right so following your logic, Romo would have to play perfect in order to win the game, he would have to carry his team, throw for five hundred yards, 5 tds, and no interceptions. No one can live up to this standard including Peyton Manning.

 

[Ring Leader]

The Saints game in 09 was clearly a "spotlighted game" but Romo was never in a come from behind situation in that game try following my posts.

Funny, I never saw where you isolated only "come from behind situations" in your anti-Romo crusade.