Sheduer dropping like a lead weight

FanofJerry said:
It's a crap shoot

He might end up being successful. No one knows
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Exactly, If you were a CEO and you had 2 prospects for hire where 1 checked all the boxes you wanted and the other didn't then you obviously pick the prospect that checks the boxes. The cowboys did not want to invest in that but you can't blame them when they got Dak, Grier and Milton...

They probably know the QB's coming in the following years will be better...
 
Mikexike said:
Exactly, If you were a CEO and you had 2 prospects for hire where 1 checked all the boxes you wanted and the other didn't then you obviously pick the prospect that checks the boxes. The cowboys did not want to invest in that but you can't blame them when they got Dak, Grier and Milton...

They probably know the QB's coming in the following years will be better...
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I get it...but their boxes have a terrible success rate.

I bet the league has passed up so many guys with moxie that had 'it' all because of some boxes.

Personally, I think a lot of football has been wasted trying to force pocket passers to succeed in this league.

I'm not pro-athlete qb, I like the look of stand in the pocket QB and don't want it going away, but too many teams' seasons have been wasted chasing these guys.

Shedeue isn't an athletic, running QB...but could he have the moxie to overcome the difficulties of the position at the NFL level...maybe.

Tall pocket passer with a cannon hasn't produced much success.

I'm sure scouts are already dialed into guys whom seem to not get rattled and process the game well...that's where I would be looking....and not getting blinded by measurements or certain traits.
 
dupree89 said:
https://nypost.com/2025/05/02/sports/how-pissed-shedeur-sanders-blew-his-chance-at-being-a-giant/
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I just read this. It is common knowledge to draftniks and alike that they will try to trick you on the mock installs of playbooks. How someone so connected already to the world of football and particularly the NFL wouldn't have seen this coming as part of a test is amazing.

I think Deion really did not prepare him at all for these simple widely known traps they put in place to test how aware and football savvy the QBs need to be.
 
MonsterD said:
I just read this. It is common knowledge to draftniks and alike that they will try to trick you on the mock installs of playbooks. How someone so connected already to the world of football and particularly the NFL wouldn't have seen this coming as part of a test is amazing.

I think Deion really did not prepare him at all for these simple widely known traps they put in place to test how aware and football savvy the QBs need to be.
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I agree that shedeue should have spotted easy to fairly easy ones...

It doesn't say which he failed...im assuming easy and hard ones...

But, like you said, how are the Sanders so out of the loop in this stuff? No colleague or friend of Deion in the business passed word along? What about Deions old agent, assuming he had one.

The story doesn't make sense at all.

No one responded to my post asking about how deion and shedeur could get this far on vanilla playbooks and/or not copying some of the tricks other teams were doing against them. Teams have to watch film.


My point is, you can't play football your whole life and not pick up on tricks or the trade.

Reddit is making it sound like shedeur and deion know high school level football. I don't know if I buy that. Because it seems hard to believe Deion wouldn't get blasted at Colorado for having such low level iq teams.

Something doesn't add up
 
FanofJerry said:
I agree that shedeue should have spotted easy to fairly easy ones...

It doesn't say which he failed...im assuming easy and hard ones...

But, like you said, how are the Sanders so out of the loop in this stuff? No colleague or friend of Deion in the business passed word along? What about Deions old agent, assuming he had one.

The story doesn't make sense at all.

No one responded to my post asking about how deion and shedeur could get this far on vanilla playbooks and/or not copying some of the tricks other teams were doing against them. Teams have to watch film.


My point is, you can't play football your whole life and not pick up on tricks or the trade.

Reddit is making it sound like shedeur and deion know high school level football. I don't know if I buy that. Because it seems hard to believe Deion wouldn't get blasted at Colorado for having such low level iq teams.

Something doesn't add up
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your blind devotion to Sanders does not add up
you refuse to admit that character concerns are a serious question at any position let alone QB

There has not been one single account from anyone that said he did well at ANY OF THE MEETINGS. NOT ONE.

And you don't think that does NOT get around?

If a QB has problems acting like a professional, you are not going to risk serious money and a high draft choice on him

Sanders blew all the interviews and THAT is why he fell so far

You seem unable to accept that.

FACT: Sanders is not that physically gifted compared to those like Milroe and so on.
FACT: his father has acted like a pain in the butt; talking about how he would not allow his son to go to certain teams.
add to that the screwed up interviews and no one with any common sense should question why he fell
 
I just read an article that a guy was suing the NFL for emotional distress for Saunders dropping in the draft.This is absolutely riddiculous and hopefully will be thrown out of court.
 
Bigdog said:
I just read an article that a guy was suing the NFL for emotional distress for Saunders dropping in the draft.This is absolutely riddiculous and hopefully will be thrown out of court.
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That's the goal though, to enrage and make miserable. It's a lame existence someone created for otherd to benefit themselves
 
Marketing versus Reality

No college football player was hyped more.

No college football player received more support from his HC.

No college football player had better connections with the NFL world.

No college football player received more media coverage.

The GMs and scouts didn't pay attention to the media or his father or his father's friends. They paid attention to the film.

They paid attention to his words and actions off and on the field.

Player personnel analysts from all 32 teams turned off the noise and opened their eyes.

Sheduer Sanders was drafted exactly where he needed to be and he will be given more than one opportunity to prove 32 teams wrong. If he succeeds then he will be paid, we all know this.

Being drafted in the 5th round could be the best thing that ever happened to him in the long run.
 
FanofJerry said:
I agree that shedeue should have spotted easy to fairly easy ones...

It doesn't say which he failed...im assuming easy and hard ones...

But, like you said, how are the Sanders so out of the loop in this stuff? No colleague or friend of Deion in the business passed word along? What about Deions old agent, assuming he had one.

The story doesn't make sense at all.

No one responded to my post asking about how deion and shedeur could get this far on vanilla playbooks and/or not copying some of the tricks other teams were doing against them. Teams have to watch film.


My point is, you can't play football your whole life and not pick up on tricks or the trade.

Reddit is making it sound like shedeur and deion know high school level football. I don't know if I buy that. Because it seems hard to believe Deion wouldn't get blasted at Colorado for having such low level iq teams.

Something doesn't add up
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Dieon inherited a 1-11 team. So everything he's doing including just being there and putting the football program back on the map is much appreciated. He's not an offensive guru. He delegates and lets the assistant coaches do their jobs and holds them accountable for results.

But, the fact remains that you can win a lot of games if you execute "vanilla" plays well. A screen pass is a vanilla play and Sheduer threw a LOT of them. That's why his completion % was 74%.

The question remains though..... why were the draft pundit evaluations so different from the actual draft. Sure guys like Kiper miss a lot. They all do. But they don't miss by 5 rounds. My take is that Sheduer has a lot of prima donna in him. A lot of arrogance and bravado. It worked for his Dad b/c he was an elite athlete who could back up his boastfulness. I remember Dieon in college and the lead up to the draft. He was so cocky and confident. It was obnoxious, but he could back it up. Qb requires a different kind of leadership. The league, apparently, didn't think his talent was worth the headache of dealing with his brand.
 
atlantacowboy said:
This is kinda nuts considering where he was projected to go. I think it's a bit of the "Tim Tebow" effect. He's a celebrity not just a QB which creates unnecessary distraction. Just look at all the media attention he generates. He was the biggest storyline in last nights draft and he wasn't even taken. Imagine the media attention his new team is going to have to deal with........ a lot of teams are saying "no thanks" to this rookie.
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Now all he can do is rise. The pressure is off of him and his job has just become easier. It's not like he needed the money.
 
Chasing6 said:
Now all he can do is rise. The pressure is off of him and his job has just become easier. It's not like he needed the money.
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I don’t think it was ever about money. Without a first round guarantee , he could have made more staying in college. It’s about respect. He feels disrespected and for the first time in his life, he’s got a chip on shoulder. Should be entertaining seeing how the Browns QB job shakes out.
 
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