Should Cowboys trade up to early 2nd round and get DT Christian Barmore?

Denim Chicken

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So, Gallimore coming off just his rookie season is unproven, but rookie Barmore isn’t? OK.

Didn't say he was proven, but his evaluation is much higher than Gallimore.

Personally, this is something I would have addressed in FA.
 

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Didn't say he was proven, but his evaluation is much higher than Gallimore.

Personally, this is something I would have addressed in FA.
I’m hearing/reading about a lot of concerns regarding Barmore. If he is as good as some are claiming, he wouldn’t still be available, would he?
 

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Sit tight at 44, there are still good CB prospects on the board and likely will be there at 44. Campbell and Melifonwu are perfect fits for the new DC Quinn and are good enough to challenge for starting spots early on in Year 1. Or they can take the best Safety available...Moehring, Holland and Grant are still available. They also reportedly are high on Molden.
 

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Barmore's hot and cold and that hurts him. Awesome when motivated, but do I want to work that hard to motivate him?

If CB/S weren't such a glaring hole, I might be more inclined to take him.
 

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I'd love to land Christian Barmore, but I don't want to lose and second or third round picks. This draft is just way too deep and that's the sweet spot. I have no doubt that someone would let us trade up, but if it costs us 99 or 75, forget about it. I'd be willing to package 44 or 75 and next year's second, but I don't think anyone will go for that.

Instead, I have my eyes on Richie Grant. RG is a playmaker - he causes turnovers and he has some swag, it's exactly what this defense needs. If they want to go DT, they could take one (or both) of the USC tackles in the third.

Then there's the fact that this team needs a corner. If they don't go Richie Grant, there are several very good corners on the board like the kid from Georgia, Campbell.
 

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I’m not against taking Barmore, but I don’t want to trade up for him, as I think Gallimore is going to be our 3Tech. I’d much rather take a safety and a CB next (regardless of order), and grab a 1Tech next.
 

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I’m not against taking Barmore, but I don’t want to trade up for him, as I think Gallimore is going to be our 3Tech. I’d much rather take a safety and a CB next (regardless of order), and grab a 1Tech next.

My thing is I think with corner I think you can get the same caliber of corner in the 3rd round that you can get in the 2nd....to me is not the time to get a corner the time was if you could've got Newsome or Stokes.

I'd have no issue trading up for safety but man...to me Barmeore is day 1 starter. He's better than Gallimore and honestly even if they both play 3T here I still take him because I make my depth even better there.
 

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Cowboys current picks (in green) after Day/Round 1:
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The Cowboys Defense was very bad last season. Actually, it has been bad for several years now. With as bad as our D-secondary has been in recent years, our run Defense up the middle has been worse.

Antwaun Woods is okay at times playing at 1-tech DT, but he's average at best and only signed through this 2021 season. The rest of the DTs on this team are 3 or 5 tech DTs who show promise at times but struggle to be consistent, hence a big reason why this Cowboys Defense continues to struggle against the run in between the Tackles.

What this Defense needs (and has needed for 10+ years) is a big, tall, nasty, strong and aggressive young 1-tech true Nose Tackle who can line up straight up or in either gap occupying the opposing Center, and help not only plug up the middle against the run but even be aggressive and quick enough to cause some pressure up the middle against opposing QBs.

Alabama monster DT Christian Barmore is still available. He made it out of the 1st round but will likely be taken somewhere between the first 5 picks of the 2nd round.



The Cowboys own the 44th overall pick (the 12th pick in the 2nd round) valued at 460 points on Drafttek's value chart. They were able to pick up via trade the Eagles 84th overall pick (valued at 170 points) in the 3rd round. That gives the Cowboys 3 picks in the 3rd round (75th, 84th & 99th overall).

If the Cowboys were to try to move up from their 44th overall pick (valued at 460 points) in the 2nd round to the very early 2nd round, they could possibly approach the Jets 34th (2nd in 2nd round) overall pick valued at 560 points. That's exactly 100 points of value more than the Cowboys 44th overall pick.

Should the Cowboys offer the Jets their 44th overall pick (460 points) and their late 3rd round 99th overall pick (104 points) to move up to the 34th overall pick (560 points)? The Jets would get an equal value (actually +4 points in trade) to trade down 10 spots to the 44th overall pick while picking up an extra 3rd round pick.

This trade-up move would allow the Cowboys to address their much needed position inside our Dline while still being able to maintain 2 picks in the 3rd round and 2 picks in the 4th round to address other positions of need like CB, FS, O-Tackle, etc.

What say you?

Definitely need DT help but they also need S and CB help.
 

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I’m hearing/reading about a lot of concerns regarding Barmore. If he is as good as some are claiming, he wouldn’t still be available, would he?

If your trying to compare Gallimore who had 8.5 sacks in 4 years to Barmore who had 8 sacks in 2020 and was the National Championship MVP, I dont know what else to tell you.
 

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If your trying to compare Gallimore who had 8.5 sacks in 4 years to Barmore who had 8 sacks in 2020 and was the National Championship MVP, I dont know what else to tell you.
Barmore was on a much better team with much better players around him as well.
 
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