CFZ Should Dak Prescott be paid the up and coming contract?

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That is a valid question...to approach an individual's specific case to judge value, which is where the above question rests, a team; fan; or media needs to first approach the dynamics and function of the motivational role in today's NFL.

Out of sight, but still a directional indicator...why is Dallas just now approaching the second most important scoring position, in the kicker? First off, to develop a dynamic team requires respecting the dynamics for building and retaining a unit group. Team building that respects underlying respect for the team.

Knowledge of maintaining dominance in score, yardage gained, and time of possession affect every single game by a team. Those abilities have to be trained and enforced over time. That is boiled down to being a part of a team and commitment on all levels to just that...giving all to that team in entirety and focus. A player who is sacrificing for team principals in reality and not just money and commercials, or a part of also being in a rock group ... team football.

The face of any team is it's quarterback. He doesn't have to be the greatest thrower on the block, or even the luckiest and who should just live in Vegas. What he has to be able to do, is consistantly come out with more points than his opponent to win a game. This may be the very highest and league wide average of scoring in a game...say 29+ points a game. It could also be established with a defense that allows only about 19+ a game and it's quarterback pushing across 20+ points average per game. That still produces a win, but supports team pride as well as internal respect and sacrifices.

The three phases in a game are offensive, defenses, and special teams. The defensive side is what I was approaching with my OP about Parsons. I wasn't attacking him, but pointing to where he has to grow into to maximize the dominance of the defensive unit and it's role in limiting a game to game ability to shut scoring down to league leading lows in average allowed per game. Just how much Parsons is paid next season, will depend upon just how well this current Dallas Cowboys defense leave indicators on the field on how good it really could become. He is a very talented and currently producing strongly. Just how high on the top end of the scale that he goes, will in some way reflect team success. That is the top of the defensive side of the ball with it's actual leader, not just the vocal motivator. Ideally that should be one in the same and a very high level of pecking order money. We are talking about a NFL expectation level of about $35 M per season. He isn't even the top team influencer as to salary and team expectations.

Dallas has now invested in a good snapper, return man, field goal kicker, and punter.

But this points to levels of expectation even if a QB doesn't possess the fastest gun in the West. All teams have expectation as well as team directional expectations - all directed at winning the fastest way possible. The quarterback is the top face of the organization, that is just the nature of the game in the NFL sporting world in today's world wide sporting venue. Large revenues are involved and the Dallas Cowboys, owned by Jerry Jones, is at the top of that view and being judged by the entire sporting world eye. He is at the very top, but is subject as well by the 'fickled' nature built into the game that encourages momento changing plays each and every game played. The other team changing event in a confrontational sport are the many injuries that happen. Jerry still has to hook his team of horses to the wagon having the greatest load carrying capacity available for a load in view by the entire world's sporting arena. That also comes with the neighborhood as well!

Despite all those problems one has to project his team to be led by a quarterback who figures strongly in maintaining point differentials against all opponents...all of them.
When a team is unable to maintain the point differential through the playoffs, other teams are not stupid. They figure out what it is that is wrong, and pick it apart.
That is what was shown as a problem with Moore. Plain and simple. Last season, Stephen had to make cap management choices that are coming up now with a top receiver, cornerback, and defensive end influence as well as include the strong leadership of Dak Prescott. That was a plateful. That said, the Cowboys were a 12 win team two straight years. That is a very strong statement for Jerry, the coaches now in place, and players on the team.

If Jerry up and wouldn't pay his team leader with that strong a team presence now, what message would that then send to the team...right now? From that point forward, it would be very evident to the entire team; other teams; and Prescott that he no longer had their combined as well as team faith in him. Would that affect team results from that point forward?

You bet it would and then would be not much more than a drama machine for many of the more vocal team complainers.

That isn't what Jerry will allow nor should he. His team is very strong now and deserves full support, not like when Jimmy Johnson aborted an entire team and then sent them down stream. Jerry this or not, Jimmy destroyed what was built and injury and free agency changed a top of league offensive line. He abandoned his team.

That is now part of the game that even the Cowboys had to learn how to manage during times of great cash increases still going on, player management and cap.

As fans, we need to truly understand the real nature of the beast and it has game introduced failure making elements for ANY single game. There is also some luck involved in the game of football. Dominance still wins, but management is by tendencies.

As to Dak Prescott, don't use him as a whipping boy, which immediately shows a poor class for fans, but also not understanding except for a single season directed at winning it all. Good in the sport of football has been established with Prescott, and the team has been taken to the playoffs by him on two consecutive seasons.

Prescott has been a league wide very strong producer, not a full group of receivers or not, for two seasons. That is not a fluke. Now a team has to support the top team producer with such a view of success. Positional problems have been added to, to improve the ratios involved with time of possessions as well as per game point differentials. The team could conceivably be the very top or at least top 5 teams on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. A team still has to overcome negative situations. Prescott has shown an ability to overcome...no one is able to overcome always in a game. That is just the nature of playing at any point.

Without hesitation, Jerry should support his leader and quarterback, now. That is being responsible and betting on and supporting your own team of players that are currently top 3 in the NFC. To do anything other than that is purely irresponsible, which is not a trait of the Dallas Cowboys or Jerry Jones.

If a fan refuses to acknowledge or understand those realities, he should shut up and just leave...he is not much more than a problem to other fans and an insult.
 

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Most all the anti Prescott narratives are all wrong blown out of proportion blames all being dumped on him so I don't know I don't care what Jerry does the front office will make the right decision that they feel is best for their franchise and we'll just watch the games we have zero control...

Prescott since 2016 has won rookie of the year , won 13 games as a rookie, that would be 11 in a row and then played very well against Green Bay wasn't his fault we lost, he's top five and wins as a quarterback since 2016, in 2018 against the Rams, I'm going to blame that on the defense and the offensive line, once again there wasn't much of a run game, 2021 offensive line 11 penalties, 14 penalties overall played behind the chains all game and somehow gets blamed because the last drive somehow it was all on him, oh and do we remember the defense in the first half what was deebo samuel's at like 9.8 yards per carry, and then the one we all remember in 22, because Prescott finally did have two interceptions in a game and look bad but again offensive line, no run game ,there was no physicality. You're not gonna beat the team with the defense like that not bringing a physical offensive line presence and a strong run game to support the quarterback and that is even mentioned the fact that Dalton Schultz had two mental gaffes the fact that Gallup was part of it issue on one of the interceptions we only had 16 run calls called all game. Plenty of blame to go around since 2016 for the playoff failures and Prescott's not in my top five sure he's had his issues I get it...


So that narrative somehow Prescott can't get us past the second round even though we haven't done that since 1995 unless I'm missing something he he may not have even been born yet but all the blame seems to keep going towards Prescott for the playoff failures look it's a team effort in these losses and they're slim margins every little thing matters when you're only losing by one score or less.

Dak also hasn't been part of a losing season is four out of 6 going to the playoffs when he's healthy he has a winning record he has 166 throwing touchdowns 26 rushing touchdowns and only 65 interceptions and I keep hearing this narrative that we punted too much last year and he threw too many interceptions I think somebody'd got really bad eyes they might have mixed him up with Cooper rush because that's what it looked like with Cooper rush and then whenever Prescott comes puts us in the top in scoring red zone scoring third down percentage was very good yes he had a few more interceptions than he usually has but he is a top ten quarterback and those are hard to replace so I'm gonna let again the front office figured it out I'm not gonna have an opinion whether we should keep him or not keep him that's not up to us but I can tell you this the grass may look greener right now yeah we could be in for a long stretch trying to replace the quarterback just like all the other teams who have given up trying to draft one and then overpay for one about the same level or worse than Prescott do we wanna be in quarterback hell??

Best interception percentage in NFL History:
1. Aaron Rodgers ………… 1.4%
2. Jacoby Brissett ………. 1.5%
3. Patrick Mahomes ……. 1.6%
4. Tyrod Taylor ……………. 1.7%
t5. Tom Brady ……………… 1.8%
t5. Colin Kaepernick ……. 1.8%
t5. Justin Herbert ……….. 1.8%
8. Russell Wilson ………… 1.9%
9. ……………. 2.0%
Via Mike Leslie
(five others also tied with Prescott for 9th)
3rd down conversion % on 3rd & over 5
44% - Patrick Mahomes
43% - Dak Prescott
It’s one thing to say Dak Prescott needs to fix his interceptions but acting as if this been a problem throughout his career is simply not true. Kill the Narrative.
 

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The Cowboys don’t have a better option at QB, they have to extend him. The Cowboys have a lot of pieces to go a long way, but they won’t get far with a lesser QB. If it was up to some of the knuckleheads here the Cowboys would be juggling QBs every few weeks trying to find an answer.
 

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You have no successor, are unlikely to draft top 15 next year, and no major Free Agent QBs are expected to hit the market anytime soon.

Look at Washington. They’d probably be good if they didnt dump Cousins with no alternative. Really strong D, beat both Prescott and Hurts, bad QB play, ended up .500. 7-10 in 2021 with Cousins is probably 9-8 or better. Division win the year before could have been a first round bye back when they had two.

It doesn’t matter if you think Dak has earned it or not, you’ve put yourself into a position where you have to extend him.
 
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You have no successor, are unlikely to draft top 15 next year, and no major Free Agent QBs are expected to hit the market anytime soon.

Look at Washington. They’d probably be good if they didnt dump Cousins with no alternative. Really strong D, beat both Prescott and Hurts, bad QB play, ended up .500. 7-10 last year with Cousins is probably 9-8 or better. Division win the year before could have been a first round bye back when they had two.

It doesn’t matter if you think Dak has earned it or not, you’ve put yourself into a position where you have to extend him.
Thank God.
 

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He likely will have a friendly contract structure as this is his second deal and he’s got his “you underpayed me for 5 years” contract out the way.
Structure maybe.

But he's going to get top of market AAV. The question is really just number of years.
 

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IMO there's no need to rush a contract this year. The market has been reset already with Jackson signing his deal.
Right now is the cheapest Dak will count against the cap.
His base salary is at league minimum+signing bonuses from original signing and prorated restructures.
A new deal will add more signing bonuses to the current bonuses.
It would of been one thing if this was his last year with 20mil base, where that can be restructured in a new deal to drop it to minimum.

This is year one with MM calling the plays, and Dak has no reason to offer any "discount". See how this year goes and work on the deal next year.
 

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That is a valid question...to approach an individual's specific case to judge value, which is where the above question rests, a team; fan; or media needs to first approach the dynamics and function of the motivational role in today's NFL.

Out of sight, but still a directional indicator...why is Dallas just now approaching the second most important scoring position, in the kicker? First off, to develop a dynamic team requires respecting the dynamics for building and retaining a unit group. Team building that respects underlying respect for the team.

Knowledge of maintaining dominance in score, yardage gained, and time of possession affect every single game by a team. Those abilities have to be trained and enforced over time. That is boiled down to being a part of a team and commitment on all levels to just that...giving all to that team in entirety and focus. A player who is sacrificing for team principals in reality and not just money and commercials, or a part of also being in a rock group ... team football.

The face of any team is it's quarterback. He doesn't have to be the greatest thrower on the block, or even the luckiest and who should just live in Vegas. What he has to be able to do, is consistantly come out with more points than his opponent to win a game. This may be the very highest and league wide average of scoring in a game...say 29+ points a game. It could also be established with a defense that allows only about 19+ a game and it's quarterback pushing across 20+ points average per game. That still produces a win, but supports team pride as well as internal respect and sacrifices.

The three phases in a game are offensive, defenses, and special teams. The defensive side is what I was approaching with my OP about Parsons. I wasn't attacking him, but pointing to where he has to grow into to maximize the dominance of the defensive unit and it's role in limiting a game to game ability to shut scoring down to league leading lows in average allowed per game. Just how much Parsons is paid next season, will depend upon just how well this current Dallas Cowboys defense leave indicators on the field on how good it really could become. He is a very talented and currently producing strongly. Just how high on the top end of the scale that he goes, will in some way reflect team success. That is the top of the defensive side of the ball with it's actual leader, not just the vocal motivator. Ideally that should be one in the same and a very high level of pecking order money. We are talking about a NFL expectation level of about $35 M per season. He isn't even the top team influencer as to salary and team expectations.

Dallas has now invested in a good snapper, return man, field goal kicker, and punter.

But this points to levels of expectation even if a QB doesn't possess the fastest gun in the West. All teams have expectation as well as team directional expectations - all directed at winning the fastest way possible. The quarterback is the top face of the organization, that is just the nature of the game in the NFL sporting world in today's world wide sporting venue. Large revenues are involved and the Dallas Cowboys, owned by Jerry Jones, is at the top of that view and being judged by the entire sporting world eye. He is at the very top, but is subject as well by the 'fickled' nature built into the game that encourages momento changing plays each and every game played. The other team changing event in a confrontational sport are the many injuries that happen. Jerry still has to hook his team of horses to the wagon having the greatest load carrying capacity available for a load in view by the entire world's sporting arena. That also comes with the neighborhood as well!

Despite all those problems one has to project his team to be led by a quarterback who figures strongly in maintaining point differentials against all opponents...all of them.
When a team is unable to maintain the point differential through the playoffs, other teams are not stupid. They figure out what it is that is wrong, and pick it apart.
That is what was shown as a problem with Moore. Plain and simple. Last season, Stephen had to make cap management choices that are coming up now with a top receiver, cornerback, and defensive end influence as well as include the strong leadership of Dak Prescott. That was a plateful. That said, the Cowboys were a 12 win team two straight years. That is a very strong statement for Jerry, the coaches now in place, and players on the team.

If Jerry up and wouldn't pay his team leader with that strong a team presence now, what message would that then send to the team...right now? From that point forward, it would be very evident to the entire team; other teams; and Prescott that he no longer had their combined as well as team faith in him. Would that affect team results from that point forward?

You bet it would and then would be not much more than a drama machine for many of the more vocal team complainers.

That isn't what Jerry will allow nor should he. His team is very strong now and deserves full support, not like when Jimmy Johnson aborted an entire team and then sent them down stream. Jerry this or not, Jimmy destroyed what was built and injury and free agency changed a top of league offensive line. He abandoned his team.

That is now part of the game that even the Cowboys had to learn how to manage during times of great cash increases still going on, player management and cap.

As fans, we need to truly understand the real nature of the beast and it has game introduced failure making elements for ANY single game. There is also some luck involved in the game of football. Dominance still wins, but management is by tendencies.

As to Dak Prescott, don't use him as a whipping boy, which immediately shows a poor class for fans, but also not understanding except for a single season directed at winning it all. Good in the sport of football has been established with Prescott, and the team has been taken to the playoffs by him on two consecutive seasons.

Prescott has been a league wide very strong producer, not a full group of receivers or not, for two seasons. That is not a fluke. Now a team has to support the top team producer with such a view of success. Positional problems have been added to, to improve the ratios involved with time of possessions as well as per game point differentials. The team could conceivably be the very top or at least top 5 teams on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. A team still has to overcome negative situations. Prescott has shown an ability to overcome...no one is able to overcome always in a game. That is just the nature of playing at any point.

Without hesitation, Jerry should support his leader and quarterback, now. That is being responsible and betting on and supporting your own team of players that are currently top 3 in the NFC. To do anything other than that is purely irresponsible, which is not a trait of the Dallas Cowboys or Jerry Jones.

If a fan refuses to acknowledge or understand those realities, he should shut up and just leave...he is not much more than a problem to other fans and an insult.
Great Post!!

Anyone who answers "NO' and doesn't provide a viable option is a Dak Hater... @SteveTheCowboy chime in.... your etherfication is incomplete :lmao2:
 

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The million dollar question, or should I say the 200 million dollar question.

As others have stated the Cowboys have not prepared for this moment by drafting or signing a suitable replacement for Dak is his demands are outrageous. They can't trade him and they can't franchise him. If he asks for $60 million per year they have no choice but to pay him. Letting him walk means tanking when they are so close to their goal.

The Cowboys have proven they are not good at this. Most teams would have drafted a backup plan and at least had something to fall back to if Dak holds them for ransom. Not Jerry. He will pay Dak, hold a big news conference to pat himself on the back and proclaim Dak is the guy to get them to a super bowl no matter what the history tells us about him and this team.

They have tried to build a quality team around Dak I assume hoping that the quality of the roster can get Dak over the hump. But if they pay Dak a kings fortune that may not be possible in the future. This would seem to be the yar they get it done or we wait 10 more years.

Maybe they are not wrong, the Joneses. Looking back over the years of Carter, Bledsoe, Hutchinson and all the other misfits and retreads, maybe when you find a decent QB you commit to him and hope for the best. No one wants a repeat of those years after Aikman retired.
 

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Most all the anti Prescott narratives are all wrong blown out of proportion blames all being dumped on him so I don't know I don't care what Jerry does the front office will make the right decision that they feel is best for their franchise and we'll just watch the games we have zero control...

Prescott since 2016 has won rookie of the year , won 13 games as a rookie, that would be 11 in a row and then played very well against Green Bay wasn't his fault we lost, he's top five and wins as a quarterback since 2016, in 2018 against the Rams, I'm going to blame that on the defense and the offensive line, once again there wasn't much of a run game, 2021 offensive line 11 penalties, 14 penalties overall played behind the chains all game and somehow gets blamed because the last drive somehow it was all on him, oh and do we remember the defense in the first half what was deebo samuel's at like 9.8 yards per carry, and then the one we all remember in 22, because Prescott finally did have two interceptions in a game and look bad but again offensive line, no run game ,there was no physicality. You're not gonna beat the team with the defense like that not bringing a physical offensive line presence and a strong run game to support the quarterback and that is even mentioned the fact that Dalton Schultz had two mental gaffes the fact that Gallup was part of it issue on one of the interceptions we only had 16 run calls called all game. Plenty of blame to go around since 2016 for the playoff failures and Prescott's not in my top five sure he's had his issues I get it...


So that narrative somehow Prescott can't get us past the second round even though we haven't done that since 1995 unless I'm missing something he he may not have even been born yet but all the blame seems to keep going towards Prescott for the playoff failures look it's a team effort in these losses and they're slim margins every little thing matters when you're only losing by one score or less.

Dak also hasn't been part of a losing season is four out of 6 going to the playoffs when he's healthy he has a winning record he has 166 throwing touchdowns 26 rushing touchdowns and only 65 interceptions and I keep hearing this narrative that we punted too much last year and he threw too many interceptions I think somebody'd got really bad eyes they might have mixed him up with Cooper rush because that's what it looked like with Cooper rush and then whenever Prescott comes puts us in the top in scoring red zone scoring third down percentage was very good yes he had a few more interceptions than he usually has but he is a top ten quarterback and those are hard to replace so I'm gonna let again the front office figured it out I'm not gonna have an opinion whether we should keep him or not keep him that's not up to us but I can tell you this the grass may look greener right now yeah we could be in for a long stretch trying to replace the quarterback just like all the other teams who have given up trying to draft one and then overpay for one about the same level or worse than Prescott do we wanna be in quarterback hell??

Best interception percentage in NFL History:
1. Aaron Rodgers ………… 1.4%
2. Jacoby Brissett ………. 1.5%
3. Patrick Mahomes ……. 1.6%
4. Tyrod Taylor ……………. 1.7%
t5. Tom Brady ……………… 1.8%
t5. Colin Kaepernick ……. 1.8%
t5. Justin Herbert ……….. 1.8%
8. Russell Wilson ………… 1.9%
9. ……………. 2.0%
Via Mike Leslie
(five others also tied with Prescott for 9th)
3rd down conversion % on 3rd & over 5
44% - Patrick Mahomes
43% - Dak Prescott
It’s one thing to say Dak Prescott needs to fix his interceptions but acting as if this been a problem throughout his career is simply not true. Kill the Narrative.
Good post guy...here and now, Dak knows just who he has to beat coming up. Philadelphia!! Get your team ready to do just that!!

Parsons, you Ray Lewis yet? :starspin:
 

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His next contract will be $50m+.
Possibly but if you look at the market value and guys who are making that now who haven't done anymore than Prescott or even less are already making that I mean seriously if the playoffs and bigger games are what we're judging there's a lot of dudes making close to 50 million that haven't done anymore than Prescott in the playoffs they got their deals ahead of the ahead of Super Bowls ahead of championship games so sure that's the market unless you want to fall in a hole and be searching for a quarterback for how long? I mean we saw between Troy and Tony Romo we had what 12 or 13 failed attempts.

You see it around the league,

you either have a top ten quarterback like we have or you're constantly drafting failed quarterbacks or projects until you get tired of it then go out and overpay for deshaun Watson both draft picks and compensation or even Russell Wilson, cousins, and now Aaron Rodgers and others these guys have tried to find a quarterback for ages and could not how about Washington ,Indianapolis, they've been looking for quarterbacks, it's not that easy to find a new quarterback not one that can put up the numbers that Prescott can regardless if you don't like the guy or not he's a top ten quarterback. The money parts not a fan thing I let the front office worry about that but we may not be as lucky going from Tony Romo to Prescott where we didn't have a gap it may end up being like the other teams or like it was between aikman and Romo that's a disaster waiting to happen when you have a team on the verge with the window open with the defense and some other parts of the team that are getting close to being able to get over the top and then what you dump your quarterback and then you don't have a quarterback none of that other stuff 's gonna matter much.
 
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