CFZ Should Dak Prescott be paid the up and coming contract?

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IMO there's no need to rush a contract this year. The market has been reset already with Jackson signing his deal.
Right now is the cheapest Dak will count against the cap.
His base salary is at league minimum+signing bonuses from original signing and prorated restructures.
A new deal will add more signing bonuses to the current bonuses.
It would of been one thing if this was his last year with 20mil base, where that can be restructured in a new deal to drop it to minimum.

This is year one with MM calling the plays, and Dak has no reason to offer any "discount". See how this year goes and work on the deal next year.
I agree as of now he's got two years left on his contract this year and 2024 and the salaries of about what you would pay him on a long term deal and with the window open maybe for a very limited time I say the next two years are going to determine whether they need to extend him to a bigger deal..

Prescott signed a four-year, $160 million extension in 2021, but an extension would lower his cap hit and afford the Cowboys greater flexibility this offseason. Prescott's current contract will see the Cowboys endure salary cap hits of $49.1 million in 2023 and $52.1 million in 2024, according to overthecap.com
 

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I would let this season play out and pay him - or not - based on what happens in 2023.
I agree as of now he's got two years left on his contract this year and 2024 and the salaries of about what you would pay him on a long term deal and with the window open maybe for a very limited time, I say the next two years are going to determine whether they need to extend him to a bigger deal..I mean 52 not that high in 24 compared to what the market and cap will be in 24, I'd say the front office did a good job with this contract because his salary is about in line with what the market is even if his deal was up right now and needed to resign him that's about the AAV you would expect so why not just roll with it for now...

Prescott signed a four-year, $160 million extension in 2021, but an extension would lower his cap hit and afford the Cowboys greater flexibility this offseason. Prescott's current contract will see the Cowboys endure salary cap hits of $49.1 million in 2023 and $52.1 million in 2024, according to overthecap.com
 

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His next contract will be $50m+.
But it's pretty much already that high now I mean that's what the markets being reset to and that's what he's on for the next two years...

I agree as of now he's got two years left on his contract this year and 2024 and the salaries of about what you would pay him on a long term deal and with the window open maybe for a very limited time I say the next two years are going to determine whether they need to extend him to a bigger deal..

Prescott signed a four-year, $160 million extension in 2021, but an extension would lower his cap hit and afford the Cowboys greater flexibility this offseason. Prescott's current contract will see the Cowboys endure salary cap hits of $49.1 million in 2023 and $52.1 million in 2024, according to overthecap.com
 

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That is a valid question...to approach an individual's specific case to judge value, which is where the above question rests, a team; fan; or media needs to first approach the dynamics and function of the motivational role in today's NFL.

Out of sight, but still a directional indicator...why is Dallas just now approaching the second most important scoring position, in the kicker? First off, to develop a dynamic team requires respecting the dynamics for building and retaining a unit group. Team building that respects underlying respect for the team.

Knowledge of maintaining dominance in score, yardage gained, and time of possession affect every single game by a team. Those abilities have to be trained and enforced over time. That is boiled down to being a part of a team and commitment on all levels to just that...giving all to that team in entirety and focus. A player who is sacrificing for team principals in reality and not just money and commercials, or a part of also being in a rock group ... team football.

The face of any team is it's quarterback. He doesn't have to be the greatest thrower on the block, or even the luckiest and who should just live in Vegas. What he has to be able to do, is consistantly come out with more points than his opponent to win a game. This may be the very highest and league wide average of scoring in a game...say 29+ points a game. It could also be established with a defense that allows only about 19+ a game and it's quarterback pushing across 20+ points average per game. That still produces a win, but supports team pride as well as internal respect and sacrifices.

The three phases in a game are offensive, defenses, and special teams. The defensive side is what I was approaching with my OP about Parsons. I wasn't attacking him, but pointing to where he has to grow into to maximize the dominance of the defensive unit and it's role in limiting a game to game ability to shut scoring down to league leading lows in average allowed per game. Just how much Parsons is paid next season, will depend upon just how well this current Dallas Cowboys defense leave indicators on the field on how good it really could become. He is a very talented and currently producing strongly. Just how high on the top end of the scale that he goes, will in some way reflect team success. That is the top of the defensive side of the ball with it's actual leader, not just the vocal motivator. Ideally that should be one in the same and a very high level of pecking order money. We are talking about a NFL expectation level of about $35 M per season. He isn't even the top team influencer as to salary and team expectations.

Dallas has now invested in a good snapper, return man, field goal kicker, and punter.

But this points to levels of expectation even if a QB doesn't possess the fastest gun in the West. All teams have expectation as well as team directional expectations - all directed at winning the fastest way possible. The quarterback is the top face of the organization, that is just the nature of the game in the NFL sporting world in today's world wide sporting venue. Large revenues are involved and the Dallas Cowboys, owned by Jerry Jones, is at the top of that view and being judged by the entire sporting world eye. He is at the very top, but is subject as well by the 'fickled' nature built into the game that encourages momento changing plays each and every game played. The other team changing event in a confrontational sport are the many injuries that happen. Jerry still has to hook his team of horses to the wagon having the greatest load carrying capacity available for a load in view by the entire world's sporting arena. That also comes with the neighborhood as well!

Despite all those problems one has to project his team to be led by a quarterback who figures strongly in maintaining point differentials against all opponents...all of them.
When a team is unable to maintain the point differential through the playoffs, other teams are not stupid. They figure out what it is that is wrong, and pick it apart.
That is what was shown as a problem with Moore. Plain and simple. Last season, Stephen had to make cap management choices that are coming up now with a top receiver, cornerback, and defensive end influence as well as include the strong leadership of Dak Prescott. That was a plateful. That said, the Cowboys were a 12 win team two straight years. That is a very strong statement for Jerry, the coaches now in place, and players on the team.

If Jerry up and wouldn't pay his team leader with that strong a team presence now, what message would that then send to the team...right now? From that point forward, it would be very evident to the entire team; other teams; and Prescott that he no longer had their combined as well as team faith in him. Would that affect team results from that point forward?

You bet it would and then would be not much more than a drama machine for many of the more vocal team complainers.

That isn't what Jerry will allow nor should he. His team is very strong now and deserves full support, not like when Jimmy Johnson aborted an entire team and then sent them down stream. Jerry this or not, Jimmy destroyed what was built and injury and free agency changed a top of league offensive line. He abandoned his team.

That is now part of the game that even the Cowboys had to learn how to manage during times of great cash increases still going on, player management and cap.

As fans, we need to truly understand the real nature of the beast and it has game introduced failure making elements for ANY single game. There is also some luck involved in the game of football. Dominance still wins, but management is by tendencies.

As to Dak Prescott, don't use him as a whipping boy, which immediately shows a poor class for fans, but also not understanding except for a single season directed at winning it all. Good in the sport of football has been established with Prescott, and the team has been taken to the playoffs by him on two consecutive seasons.

Prescott has been a league wide very strong producer, not a full group of receivers or not, for two seasons. That is not a fluke. Now a team has to support the top team producer with such a view of success. Positional problems have been added to, to improve the ratios involved with time of possessions as well as per game point differentials. The team could conceivably be the very top or at least top 5 teams on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. A team still has to overcome negative situations. Prescott has shown an ability to overcome...no one is able to overcome always in a game. That is just the nature of playing at any point.

Without hesitation, Jerry should support his leader and quarterback, now. That is being responsible and betting on and supporting your own team of players that are currently top 3 in the NFC. To do anything other than that is purely irresponsible, which is not a trait of the Dallas Cowboys or Jerry Jones.

If a fan refuses to acknowledge or understand those realities, he should shut up and just leave...he is not much more than a problem to other fans and an insult.
I agree they should definitely put a lot of thought into resigning the guy however there isn't a big rush...

as of now he's got two years left on his contract,

this year and 2024 and the salaries of about what you would pay him on a long term deal and with the window open maybe for a very limited time, I say the next two years are going to determine whether they need to extend him to a bigger deal.

I mean these next two years with the salary cap going up and the market for quarterbacks going up you might as well let him play these next two years or at least this year on that contract because it's not out of line and why invest more right now I'm not saying don't consider it but I'm saying you don't have to consider it for a while.

Prescott signed a four-year, $160 million extension in 2021, but an extension would lower his cap hit and afford the Cowboys greater flexibility this offseason. Prescott's current contract will see the Cowboys endure salary cap hits of $49.1 million in 2023 and $52.1 million in 2024, according to overthecap.com
 

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I agree as of now he's got two years left on his contract this year and 2024 and the salaries of about what you would pay him on a long term deal and with the window open maybe for a very limited time, I say the next two years are going to determine whether they need to extend him to a bigger deal..I mean 52 not that high in 24 compared to what the market and cap will be in 24, I'd say the front office did a good job with this contract because his salary is about in line with what the market is even if his deal was up right now and needed to resign him that's about the AAV you would expect so why not just roll with it for now...

Prescott signed a four-year, $160 million extension in 2021, but an extension would lower his cap hit and afford the Cowboys greater flexibility this offseason. Prescott's current contract will see the Cowboys endure salary cap hits of $49.1 million in 2023 and $52.1 million in 2024, according to overthecap.com
Unless he’s giving a big discount on the extension, I’m letting this deal play out.

If he plays great? Great! Back up that money truck, he’s earned it.

If he doesn’t? Or if he’s the main reason why the season ends (as happened in 2022 season)? I still have my ‘out’.
 

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They're going to extend him (I don't think they should), but if they're smart (which they are not) they'd draft a QB in the 1st round before that extension is up so we at least have a chance to NOT be in QB purgatory for years.
 

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Unless he’s giving a big discount on the extension, I’m letting this deal play out.

If he plays great? Great! Back up that money truck, he’s earned it.

If he doesn’t? Or if he’s the main reason why the season ends (as happened in 2022 season)? I still have my ‘out’.
The big question not being seen is the amount of secondary contracts that would be lost and players playing big roles here and now and probably for two more years as well...will be lost and team dynamics affected. Myself, I'm drafting a #1 round offensive player in the 2024 draft...here and now planning for.

This based upon the hitting on first round drafted offensive line hits over the past 10 seasons!

For this season that unit has Smith, Smith, and Martin. Next season, who knows?
 

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They really don't have a choice. The defense is being built to contend. There is a window of opportunity that would be wasted on going with a draft pick and enduring the learning curve.
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 

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The Cowboys don’t have a better option at QB, they have to extend him. The Cowboys have a lot of pieces to go a long way, but they won’t get far with a lesser QB. If it was up to some of the knuckleheads here the Cowboys would be juggling QBs every few weeks trying to find an answer.
We have to draft a QB high in the draft, not because of all the Bash Dak over Dallas Cult rhetoric and meaningless drivel, but he is over 30, and we need to have a pipeline of QBs to develop to provide us options.
 

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Great Post!!

Anyone who answers "NO' and doesn't provide a viable option is a Dak Hater... @SteveTheCowboy chime in.... your etherfication is incomplete :lmao2:
Whatever bud. If you can't make your point in a few sentences...or even a couple paragraphs...you're just a blow hard.

I just watch football...that's it. I leave the pristine NFL expertise to the likes of you. You know...since you guys have your own Lombardi's and such. EXPERTS!
 

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We have to draft a QB high in the draft, not because of all the Bash Dak over Dallas Cult rhetoric and meaningless drivel, but he is over 30, and we need to have a pipeline of QBs to develop to provide us options.
The Cowboys are currently not in a position where they have to draft a QB high. The team isn’t that far off after back-to-back playoff seasons. They can’t afford to be using a premium draft pick on a QB when they have other needs. We’re trying to stay with Philly and hopefully surpass them. The Cowboys have only used a first round pick on a QB three times in franchise history, Craig Morton, Troy Aikman, and Steve Walsh who cost them a first round pick in the supplemental draft in 89.
 

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I wonder how this thread will go....I'm sure different and more level-headed than the previous 100 Dak contract threads.
….we first have to ask, “what’s the alternative”?

Not drafting a quarterback higher than the 3rd round in 23 years and not signing a FA quarterback that is anywhere near their prime, kind of make this a moot question
 

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I feel like the team should hold off this season on the extension. Let the season play out.

If Dallas fails to advance to the NFCCG then Dallas has decisions to make.

One extend Prescott.
Two let Prescott play on the 59 million dollar cap hit.
Three cut Prescott and absorb the huge cap hit.

Other teams have absorbed huge cap hits and lived for another day. It's not a death sentence.

Atlanta cut Ryan with a 43 million cap hit. Philadelphia cut Wentz with a 49 million cap hit..

Dallas has 24 million in cap space in 2024 taking the 59 million dollar cap hit. They can rework other deals to create more space if necessary.

If they decide to move on from Prescott the search for the next begins the day Dallas is eliminated. Through free agency or the draft the process needs to start.

Eight years is more than enough time. Need to stop spinning your wheels and take the next step.

Example, I'm a Celtic fan. They parted ways with Marcus Smart after nine years. Got to a Finals, but fell short the other years. At some point you need to try something different to get further along. I see Dallas in the same position with Prescott. It's not personal, it's just business.
 

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There is no valid reason that Dak deserves an extension if you take into consideration what we have seen in the last 7 years.
Only a miracle season by Dak can save his job.
The fans are booing and throwing garbage and with more egg-laying games at home this will be repeated.
Micah and the other Cowboy players are almost at the point of no return as Dak is costing them wins and if you factor he is also reaping in the highest of paychecks well human nature will take its course in the locker room and it won't be pleasant for Prescott.
I predict that Dak will fall on his face in a big way this coming season and follow Zeke to no man's land in the Spring of 2024.
They have the cap room to cut him why do you think they're saving that 20 million????
It gives them the option........and the option will be exercised.
Enough of # 4 and his ineptness time to move up in the draft and go shopping!!!
COWBOYS!!!!!
 

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What choice do they have? They are completely unprepared to move on without him. It's their own fault.

As soon as Dak signed that contract they should have worked to draft his future replacement. At the very least this would have provided competition which may have elevated Dak's play to a degree. It would have also provided leverage in contract negotiations.
 

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They really don't have a choice. The defense is being built to contend. There is a window of opportunity that would be wasted on going with a draft pick and enduring the learning curve.
They have the choice NOT to waste another pool of talented players at the mercy of # 4.
How many playoff games does he need to cost us I wonder till Jerry gets the message?????
 
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