CFZ Should Herschel Walker be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

[Flamma]

Yes. If for no other reason what he did for the Cowboys.

I'll admit I panicked when he got traded.

I was the opposite. But only because I had already lost all hope. Not because of any insight I may have had. I figured, how much worse can it get? And I was right. Going from 3-13 to 1-15 was a soft landing at rock bottom.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I always got a kick out of the fact that Walker ended up back with the Cowboys years after that trade. lol And also that trade never would have happened if he wouldn't have agreed to it. I'll always consider him a Cowboy. Yes he belongs in the HOF.

 

[kskboys]

Herschel should absolutely be in the HOF.. regardless of what he has done the past recent years. I mean OJ is still in there, and he is still invited to attend the annual events held there, just imagine that.

OJ was a much better RB than Herschel. He dominated during his time in the league.

 

[kskboys]

That's a propaganda farce (by media or NFL?) ... no NFL player that is voted into NFL Hall of Fame (ala Warren Moon) is based off a Canadian career ...

If that was the case, Vince Ferragoma would have been in the NFL hall of fame ...

Well, that's what I would think. I doubt if the play in any other league makes any difference in HOF voting.

 

[kskboys]

to make it simple , they can only put small # of guys in each year. Just the way it is.
There are a lot of guys who should go in, and most will eventually, a few may never go in.
Also it is political and some guys will be delayed due to that.

But they all will go at some point, Walker will go, just a question of when.
Basically they have more guys to put in than they have slots for.

Well said. That's why Howley wasn't in.

 

[kskboys]

I was just going to mention him, and here you are on the 2nd post. It's the pro football hall of fame, not the NFL hall of fame. I just think they don't take the NSFL seriously enough to consider it. But Walker was a freak athlete, anyone watching him play could see that. He absolutely should be in the HOF.

Sure, but he was not a freak RB. He was just OK.

If someone would've mentioned him for the HOF at the time he played, they'd have been laughed at. This is an obvious example of overglorifying the past. He really isn't HOF material. Herschel Walker had exacatly 2 thousand yard rushing season, 1,514 w/ us, and 1,070 w/ Philly 4 years later. He really wasn't great at anything.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

OJ was a much better RB than Herschel. He dominated during his time in the league.

This, Lou Saban said he had Sectrariat ( greatest horse ever) and he was going to ride him.

 

[Flamma]

Sure, but he was not a freak RB. He was just OK.

If someone would've mentioned him for the HOF at the time he played, they'd have been laughed at. This is an obvious example of overglorifying the past. He really isn't HOF material. Herschel Walker had exacatly 2 thousand yard rushing season, 1,514 w/ us, and 1,070 w/ Philly 4 years later. He really wasn't great at anything.

This is where I think you're nuts. The only time. I usually agree with you. Had he played his entire career in the NFL he easily is HOF. He was an elite RB. Warren Moon got in largely based on his CFL career. Because in the NFL he was no better than Boomer from the Bengals. Walker was still pretty good in his mid 30s.

 

[Kevinicus]

That's a propaganda farce (by media or NFL?) ... no NFL player that is voted into NFL Hall of Fame (ala Warren Moon) is based off a Canadian career ...

If that was the case, Vince Ferragoma would have been in the NFL hall of fame ...

No such thing as NFL Hall of Fame.

 

[INCowboysFan]

When the AFL and NFL merged in 1970, all the statistics compiled by the players in the AFL were included in their official statistical history. But when the USFL folded in the mid-1980's, the statistics compiled by the players, including luminaries like Herschel Walker, Reggie White and Jim Kelly were not included in their overall professional football statistics. That is why Bruce Smith is credited with the most sacks in history (200) ahead of Reggie White (198.) If you include the 23.5 sacks Reggie White had while playing in the USFL in 1984 & 1985, Reggie White is the clear #1 all-time sacks leader with 221.5 sacks in his Pro Football career.

In the USFL playing for the New Jersey Generals, Herschel Walker had 7,115 yards from scrimmage.

• 1,143 rushing attempts for 5,562 yards
• 130 receptions for 1,484 yards
• 3 kick returns for 69 yards.

Currently, Herschel Walker ranks 48th in NFL history in total yards from scrimmage, sandwiched between HOF RB Roger Craig at #47, and HOF WR Art Monk at #49. He is 2 spots ahead of soon-to-be HOF TE Jason Witten, who is ranked 50th all-time on the total yards from scrimmage list.

In the NFL, Herschel Walker has a total of 18,168 total yards from scrimmage.

• 1954 rushing attempts for 8,225 yards
• 512 receptions for 4,859 yards
• 215 kick returns for 5,084 yards

If you added his USFL statistics, Herschel Walker would rank #1 on the Total Yards from Scrimmage list with 25,283 yards compiled - 1,743 yards ahead of currently ranked #1 Jerry Rice, and 3,704 yards ahead of currently ranked #2 Emmitt Smith. Even if you exclude his kick return yardage, he would rank 4th all-time, behind Walter Payton with 20,130 Total Yards rushing and receiving.

Walker, even without his USFL statistics currently ranks 45th all time in rushing yards, ahead of HOF players Roger Craig, Larry Czonka, and Terrell Davis. If you add his USFL numbers, he has a total of 13,787 total rushing yards, which would rank him 7th all-time, ahead of HOF RB LaDanian Tomlinson, and just behind HOF RB Curtis Martin. Walker's receiving yards would rank 197th all-time, and his kick return yards would rank 32nd all-time.

In Canton, they call it the Pro Football Hall of Fame, not the NFL Hall of Fame. I'm not sure how they can justify excluding Herschel Walker from among the luminaries inducted into company of legends already included therein.

You are referring to all purpose yards, not yards from scrimmage. KR/PR yards are not yards from scrimmage.

 

[Diehardblues]

You said the trade had something to do with his going to the USFL, which was funny considering Jimmy was at Oklahoma State when Herschel went to the USFL.

No, you misread that. Heres my words .

“If Herschel wants to blame anyone but himself for choosing to go to USFL, I’d blame Jethro and Jimmy for trading him.”

Trading Herschel had nothing to do with his decision to go to USFL. Perhaps I shouldn't have put them in same sentence but I assumed everyone would realize what I meant. Meaning was the trade could be another reason Herschel could blame for not becoming a HOF candidate along with his decision to go to USFL.

 

[KJJ]

If you think about it, Herschel Walker helped the Cowboys win 3 super bowls more than any other player. Definitely should be the HOF for that!

Hopefully you’re joking. They won three Super Bowls without him, with an RB that ended up being better than him. That’s not going to get him in the Hall of Fame.

 

[KJJ]

In 12 NFL seasons, Walker only had two 1000 yard seasons. He only had two double digit TD seasons. He was a very exciting player with great speed but he simply didn’t put up the numbers in the NFL to have a Hall of Fame career. He’s not in the Cowboys ROH. A player certainly isn’t going to be elected to the Pro football Hall of Fame if they can’t make their teams Hall of Fame. His best years in the NFL were with the Cowboys and they didn’t win anything with him.

 

[khiladi]

He should be in the HOF of Folks with Multiple Personalities

 

[DuncanIso]

Its the Hall of Fame. not stats.

And Walker is famous.

 

[mldardy]

Hell no. He had 2 1000 yard seasons in 13 seasons and 2 Pro Bowls. No All Pros or any other accomplishments. No team success either.

 

[blueblood70]

When the AFL and NFL merged in 1970, all the statistics compiled by the players in the AFL were included in their official statistical history. But when the USFL folded in the mid-1980's, the statistics compiled by the players, including luminaries like Herschel Walker, Reggie White and Jim Kelly were not included in their overall professional football statistics. That is why Bruce Smith is credited with the most sacks in history (200) ahead of Reggie White (198.) If you include the 23.5 sacks Reggie White had while playing in the USFL in 1984 & 1985, Reggie White is the clear #1 all-time sacks leader with 221.5 sacks in his Pro Football career.

In the USFL playing for the New Jersey Generals, Herschel Walker had 7,115 yards from scrimmage.

• 1,143 rushing attempts for 5,562 yards
• 130 receptions for 1,484 yards
• 3 kick returns for 69 yards.

Currently, Herschel Walker ranks 48th in NFL history in total yards from scrimmage, sandwiched between HOF RB Roger Craig at #47, and HOF WR Art Monk at #49. He is 2 spots ahead of soon-to-be HOF TE Jason Witten, who is ranked 50th all-time on the total yards from scrimmage list.

In the NFL, Herschel Walker has a total of 18,168 total yards from scrimmage.

• 1954 rushing attempts for 8,225 yards
• 512 receptions for 4,859 yards
• 215 kick returns for 5,084 yards

If you added his USFL statistics, Herschel Walker would rank #1 on the Total Yards from Scrimmage list with 25,283 yards compiled - 1,743 yards ahead of currently ranked #1 Jerry Rice, and 3,704 yards ahead of currently ranked #2 Emmitt Smith. Even if you exclude his kick return yardage, he would rank 4th all-time, behind Walter Payton with 20,130 Total Yards rushing and receiving.

Walker, even without his USFL statistics currently ranks 45th all time in rushing yards, ahead of HOF players Roger Craig, Larry Czonka, and Terrell Davis. If you add his USFL numbers, he has a total of 13,787 total rushing yards, which would rank him 7th all-time, ahead of HOF RB LaDanian Tomlinson, and just behind HOF RB Curtis Martin. Walker's receiving yards would rank 197th all-time, and his kick return yards would rank 32nd all-time.

In Canton, they call it the Pro Football Hall of Fame, not the NFL Hall of Fame. I'm not sure how they can justify excluding Herschel Walker from among the luminaries inducted into company of legends already included therein.

First of all

The NFL began to keep track of sacks in 1982,
so really there were a lot of players back in the 40s fifties 60s and 70s that didn't have their sacks counted therefore there could be somebody out there that literally has more sacks you can't use that premise that the AFL and the NFL decided to merge and keep statistics USFL was an outlier just like it is now with the XFL the European league you cannot count those stats I'm sorry you just can't they would have to go back to too many players to do that I mean I don't remember Warren moon and some other guys it doesn't work that way they didn't decide to do it it wasn't an agreement therefore you can't count officially the stats from another league without the permission from the NFL. They play different players I'm gonna have to believe that Reggie white played tougher competition in the NFL then Reggie white did while he was in the USFL.

So if walker gets into the Hall of Fame through the NFL that's great his statistics look great, I mean Sayers is in for a lot less I mean Sayers I don't care how impressive you guys think he is he should have never been allowed in the NFL Hall of Fame with those statistics.. I don't care what his projections might have been how good he looked to people's eyes guys like Bo Jackson didn't get a fair shake on the injury front they do not deserve to go into the Hall of Fame now Herschel Walker's number stand up so maybe he'll get in one day it won't be his first or second go around but someday somebody might allow him in there..

Lastly, just to throw this out there and I know it's not going to go over well but if you're just looking at rushing stats Ezekiel elliott's career stacks up just like that his numbers are almost identical not adding in all the receptions and return yards but just as a runner if we're going to make a case for rehearsal Walker, we should make a case for Elliot who did have 2 rushing titles and what not would have had 3..


so this points out some of the things you can't put everyone in so you have to look at other things to break those ties,

 

[KJJ]

Herschel should absolutely be in the HOF.. regardless of what he has done the past recent years. I mean OJ is still in there, and he is still invited to attend the annual events held there, just imagine that.

O.J. had a much better NFL career than Walker. Get real! He was one of the greatest RBs in NFL history. He was the first RB to rush for 2000 yards. He spent most of his career on one of the worst teams in football and carried them. He had 3000 more rushing yards than Walker in two fewer NFL seasons. Walker only made the Pro bowl twice. We’re talking strictly football here not off the field.

 

[blueblood70]

Believe it or not, some fans in here rank Demarco Murray above Hershel. Hahahaha

what's also ironic and or funny is the fact that Ezekiel Elliott doesn't get any respect and he's got every bit as good a run stats for his career with a couple of rushing titles added to it not sure if he's ever been an all pro the man had one of the best rookie seasons ever by a Dallas cowboy and yet people in here act like this dude with just some Jag that got a good offensive line and yet here they are arguing for Herschel Walker when I can show you the run stats are almost identical across the board between Elliot and Walker I don't care what he did in the USFL that doesn't count you can't count them I know you want to in your head but that's not the way the NFL works so the OP's gotta calm down with that gotta throw that all away we know that Herschel Walker was a great player the fact is we're sitting here talking about that when Ezekiel elliott's career has been just as good but people just rip on the dude all the time. Just wanna make sure people remember Ezekiel Elliott 's total career numbers right now are actually slightly better than Terrell Davis the difference is the team he was on at the time and they got to play in some Super Bowls but other than that you just go and stats Elliot should be in this conversation if you allow Herschel Walker to be in it especially since the Hall of Fame made a huge mistake putting Sayers in because he had nothing he had no rings no championship pedigree and no stats and somehow off of projections he was put in the Hall of Fame and that is not what the Hall of Fame is for... It's not what you could have done it's not what might have happened it is what happened only.

 

[AbeBeta]

I doubt he'd be able to get enough votes. Too many better candidates.