Should I Get Back Into School?

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dez_for_prez;4506113 said:
Your that guy that tell you what you don't want to hear, when you need to hear it.

*You're :)))

You should have read my first draft.
 
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Thanks for all the advice guys I still haven't made a decision and probably won't for awhile. Gonna discuss it with my parents.
 

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If you have an ultimate goal in mind (medicine, law, business graduate degree, etc.) always strive for higher education. However, far too many people with no real ambition go to college just because they think they are supposed to and get some useless BS degree and find themselves without a job and in debt. It's part of the reason we have things like the Wall Street 99% movement, people with degrees in poultry science and Russian literature who are baffled and pissed that they cannot find work.

I'd say that if knowledge doesnt excite you and academic ambition is lacking, get your GED and learn a marketable trade.
 

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dez_for_prez;4506137 said:
Ill leave you with this, if you consestly work your *** off at whatever you do you will continue do make your life better. Drive is what seperates so many people in life, from atheletes to your average Joe. Life is what you make of it. Think about when your 50-60. What do you want the quality of your life to be?
It may not be eloquent, but the first bit is the truth. The single biggest factor in success is drive. If you dont want to do something you won't be good at it.
 

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theogt;4506212 said:
It may not be eloquent, but the first bit is the truth. The single biggest factor in success is drive. If you dont want to do something you won't be good at it.

...then you aren't going somewhere.

You are basically twisting in the wind.

It's the difference between being the leaf or the leaf blower. One has the purpose and the direction the other is there for a ride.
 

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The30YardSlant;4506181 said:
If you have an ultimate goal in mind (medicine, law, business graduate degree, etc.) always strive for higher education. However, far too many people with no real ambition go to college just because they think they are supposed to and get some useless BS degree and find themselves without a job and in debt.

I'd say that if knowledge doesnt excite you and academic ambition is lacking, get your GED and learn a marketable trade.

I went to university for a year because the pressure of my parents realized it wasn't for me, and the next year I was at trade school taking carpentry. 4 years later I make decent living and a love what I do.
 

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I would say stick with what's working. I wouldn't change it up just for basketball. Maybe there are city leagues you could join instead?

As far as college, I wish I would have taken it more seriously when I was younger. I ended up not finishing because I just didn't put the effort into it. Now, I wish I had. I'm only 32, and yeah, I could go back now, but it's much harder when you have a full time job and bills you have to pay every single month.
 

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theogt;4506021 said:
Hmm....I disagree. Unless you're an engineer, no one goes to college to learn anything particularly helpful in their career. The goal for college is simply to get into the best college you can get into (so you can have prettier resume) and then somehow manage to grow up and become an adult (barely) by the time it's over. The problem for most kids nowadays is that when they're 22 they still act like they're 16, so they're virtually unemployable or when they do get a job they screw it up and have no chance of upward mobility. This is largely because they've been told from day 1 that they're special and they can do whatever they put their mind to (not actually being told that "putting their mind to it" actually means really hard work and endless dedication/drive).
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Take it from a guy who use to think he was too cool for school etc. Get an education or learn a skill that is in demand and learn now that you cant go anywhere in life unless you put in the work it takes to be successful. It took me 15 years after high school to mature enough to realize that before I started to be successful. Being a clown is fine, but you really need to figure out that there is a time / place for it and their has to be a balance between having fun and working hard. Toys are expensive, and it sucks being broke.
 

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If you are home schooled now and are doing well and think that you will have more problems when you go back to public school you should stay home schooled. As for playing sports, you can still play HS basketball with your local high school. It is your parents rights as a tax payer to that school district to allow you to be in extra curricular activities.

DO NOT JUST QUIT TO GET A GED!

If you do that shows potential colleges that you don't have what it takes to complete something and future employer the same.

We have home schooled our daughters and the first one graduated at the top of her percentile and her consortium as well and now has her own company and did that right out of HS.

My younger daughter, still home schooled is writing her first full novel and has completed several short stories that will be published. It not about being in a school "Building" but the quality of the education.

If you have any questions please feel free to PM me.
 

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theogt;4506021 said:
Hmm....I disagree. Unless you're an engineer, no one goes to college to learn anything particularly helpful in their career.

I disagree, there are plenty of majors and career fields where gaining knowledge in college is vital. Business, any academic science field, pre-med and pre-law, architecture, etc. all require a large base of knowledge to be gained in undergrad before anything else is possible.

Yes, the majority of liberal arts majors are pretty useless as are degrees for people with no ambition after college, but there are plenty of non-engineers who gain a very important base of knowledge in undergrad.
 

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The30YardSlant;4506434 said:
I disagree, there are plenty of majors and career fields where gaining knowledge in college is vital. Business, any academic science field, pre-med and pre-law, architecture, etc. all require a large base of knowledge to be gained in undergrad before anything else is possible.

Yes, the majority of liberal arts majors are pretty useless as are degrees for people with no ambition after college, but there are plenty of non-engineers who gain a very important base of knowledge in undergrad.
A few responses:

- By engineer I was attempting to encompass the hard sciences.
- Architecture is very much like an engineer.
- There is no such thing as "pre-law" and even if there were, you wouldn't need to know a thing about law before stepping foot into law school.
- The only thing "pre-med" (another non-existent study) means is you need to take the requisite basic science courses. You don't actually even have to learn anything from them.
- LOL @ "business".
 

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Shoot. Let me say something. I graduated in the bottom 10% of my class. I went to parties, drank, had lots of "girlfriends"... and I waited 10 years to go back to school because I was making plenty of money after I graduated. The market was hot, but things soon changed. But through the good years I partied because I could afford to. I got by on my personality and the fact I like to chat, so I was in sales for most of my young, adult life.

At 27, I got sober.

Later I enrolled in community college, took some remedial math classes to get up to par, and aced everything else I touched. So I ended up with a 3.9 at ACC.

Then I transferred to UT-Austin. There I found so many genius people and professors that it started rubbing off on me. I started thinking in different ways, seeing the whole world quite differently. The more you hang around smart people, the smarter you'll be....

So make education a priority. I still have a shot at a law degree. Obviously, my life has had some ups and downs. But it doesn't all suck. And that's mostly because I like to learn. Life is to short not to learn all you can.

My advice is get your diploma as fast as you can and just get into college. You seem like a bright kid.
 

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Heisenberg;4506312 said:
I would say stick with what's working. I wouldn't change it up just for basketball. Maybe there are city leagues you could join instead?

As far as college, I wish I would have taken it more seriously when I was younger. I ended up not finishing because I just didn't put the effort into it. Now, I wish I had. I'm only 32, and yeah, I could go back now, but it's much harder when you have a full time job and bills you have to pay every single month.

Dude, don't kid yourself. Yes, some will chime in with some trollish comment about school not being worth it, or being old and going back isn't cool somehow... but at that point in your life, you can find so much you'd wish you learned before. And you just do it at your own pace.

As one of my best professors once said, "take what you want out of it, and leave the rest behind."
 

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If all you want out of going back to school is basketball and chicks, those aren't the right reasons to go back and continue to resist what they are trying to teach you.

When you genuinely want an education and are willing to leave behind all your childish pranks and dragging your feet and are willing to put in sincere effort and cooperate with those who want to help you learn then that is the right time and reasons to go back. Until then you would be just wasting your time and other's time and efforts.

People do best at what they really want to do and don't do well being pushed by others into what they "should" do. When you really want an education and are eagerly willing to work hard to get it without others pushing you, that is the time to go back to school at whatever level.

JMO
 

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theogt;4506471 said:
A few responses:

- By engineer I was attempting to encompass the hard sciences.
- Architecture is very much like an engineer.
- There is no such thing as "pre-law" and even if there were, you wouldn't need to know a thing about law before stepping foot into law school.
- The only thing "pre-med" (another non-existent study) means is you need to take the requisite basic science courses. You don't actually even have to learn anything from them.
- LOL @ "business".

QFT. My undergraduate degree: Systems Engineering.
 

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big dog cowboy;4506495 said:
Spoken for truth right there.

I try to be a positive influence and a leader when it comes to these things. He's obviously a bright young, kid... who I think should start gearing up for college. Right now he just has to graduate.
 

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theogt;4506471 said:
A few responses:

- By engineer I was attempting to encompass the hard sciences.
- Architecture is very much like an engineer.
- There is no such thing as "pre-law" and even if there were, you wouldn't need to know a thing about law before stepping foot into law school.
- The only thing "pre-med" (another non-existent study) means is you need to take the requisite basic science courses. You don't actually even have to learn anything from them.
- LOL @ "business".

As a medical student, trust me when I say that you absolutely must learn the basics prior to medical school. They expect you to know basic biology, biochemistry, cell biology, etc. and operate on the assumption that you know it from day one. I would have been absolutely lost my first year without a very thorough knowledge of the undergrad sciences.

And statistics show that students who study in certain fields as undergrads perform better in law school.

Success is business fields is helped greatly by a graduate degree in business, and there's a reason that the business programs at schools like UT and A&M are so coveted and competative.
 
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