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You are both missing the point and making it at the same time.

That's a great example you bring up.

Rocky craps all over the detractors every chance he gets. Why would you expect them not to take their swings at him? I'm not saying it is right or wrong. I'm saying Rocky brings it on himself by the way he treats them.

Then the rest of you join in and 40 pages of the same back and forth ensues.

That seems pretty excessive for someone who isn't bothered by it.

I notice you are also using one of your regular tactics. Insinuating a position I have not taken. I am not concerned one bit by any amount of Dak defending. Like I said, I find our behavior fascinating and these threads are a front row seat. I am entertained by them.

They just bring up the question... Why do you guys get so worked up?

You don't think your actions just perpetuate the behavior you don't want to see?

I'm just trying to understand.
Maybe I just don’t see what you see I guess. I don’t see people worked up or “bothered” like you claim. You claim you’re invested because of entertainment purposes? Maybe that’s everyone’s reason?
 

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My word. I've stated my objective at least twice.

My objective is to understand why a grown man would care so much about another's opinion on a topic which ultimately does not matter at all, that he feels obligated to get into a multi day back and forth which has already been done countless times and which leads nowhere time after time.

To be clear, I do not care if those threads happen. I find them entertaining. Please don't stop on my account.

I'm just trying to satisfy my curiosity on a topic (psychology, not Dak) that fascinates me.

Does that clear things up?
I don’t think it’s a matter of caring I think it’s just the art of debating. People debate politics, music, sports…….this is no different.
 

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I'm pretty sure you won't be running into any life or death situations here at the Zone. Fairly sure anyways.

Have you had any success here?

I get your feelings about overly negative people. I'm the same way.

Let me ask you Rocky. You surely have noticed all the flak you get from many who are outside the great debate. Do you agree that you have made a negative impression on many people here? To the extent where they come out of the woodwork to point that out.

If the answer to that is yes, how do you reconcile the fact that your efforts to bring positivity actually result in increasing the negativity?

If I'm getting frustrated training a dog in recall because it "won't listen", me yelling "come" over and over while getting angrier and angrier is not only not going to help, it's going to make it even more difficult in the long run.

I'm just going to be angry and the dog is off humping the neighbor's poodle.
Yes I have had some success. As far as people on a message board behind a keyboard coming out to attack me is a concern to me? Please. You don’t know me. And maybe in your world you’re ok being around negative people but I ain’t.
 

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My word. I've stated my objective at least twice.

My objective is to understand why a grown man would care so much about another's opinion on a topic which ultimately does not matter at all, that he feels obligated to get into a multi day back and forth which has already been done countless times and which leads nowhere time after time.

To be clear, I do not care if those threads happen. I find them entertaining. Please don't stop on my account.

I'm just trying to satisfy my curiosity on a topic (psychology, not Dak) that fascinates me.

Does that clear things up?
And yet here you are doing the same exact thing. Remember what I said earlier about those who think they’re better than everyone else will invariably make a fool of themselves?
 

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Maybe I just don’t see what you see I guess. I don’t see people worked up or “bothered” like you claim. You claim you’re invested because of entertainment purposes? Maybe that’s everyone’s reason?
Fair enough. I think there are some semantics at play with our individual interpretation of 'bothered'. To me, those multi day free for alls indicate a level of emotional attachment that goes beyond playful but I'm no expert.

Actually, my investment in this topic is educational. The entertainment is just a bonus.
 

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I don’t think it’s a matter of caring I think it’s just the art of debating. People debate politics, music, sports…….this is no different.
This is different.

It ALWAYS gets personal. That's not debate.
 

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Yes I have had some success. As far as people on a message board behind a keyboard coming out to attack me is a concern to me? Please. You don’t know me. And maybe in your world you’re ok being around negative people but I ain’t.
Ok. This is a start.

Why do "people on a message board behind a keyboard coming out to attack me(you)" bother you so much? Do you carry those feelings into your off-forum life?
 

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And yet here you are doing the same exact thing. Remember what I said earlier about those who think they’re better than everyone else will invariably make a fool of themselves?
How am I doing the same thing?

I am genuinely curious about an interesting topic. I am civil and respectful. I chose a throwaway thread in the off topic zone to ask this question.

How is this even remotely similar to the threads I'm referencing?

I haven't even called anyone a troll or a hater.
 

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How am I doing the same thing?

I am genuinely curious about an interesting topic. I am civil and respectful. I chose a throwaway thread in the off topic zone to ask this question.

How is this even remotely similar to the threads I'm referencing?

I haven't even called anyone a troll or a hater.
Because I’m also genuinely concerned. I hope you understand now.
 

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This is different.

It ALWAYS gets personal. That's not debate.
You don’t think debating politics or social issues get personal? We are dealing with people behind a username. In a Avenue like that you are going to get people acting in ways they wouldn’t in real life. It’s not just regulated to Dak. Romo discussions were polarizing like that. I honestly don’t know why that is other than we are on the internet and things tend to get ugly on the internet.
 

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Fair enough. I think there are some semantics at play with our individual interpretation of 'bothered'. To me, those multi day free for alls indicate a level of emotional attachment that goes beyond playful but I'm no expert.

Actually, my investment in this topic is educational. The entertainment is just a bonus.
I mean I’m telling you there’s nothing emotionally and you seem to want it to be lol. Going back and forth with posters is not a sign to you being bothered or emotionally charged. I think a bigger sign is when you see people resort to name calling and insults without being provoked.
 

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You don’t think debating politics or social issues get personal? We are dealing with people behind a username. In a Avenue like that you are going to get people acting in ways they wouldn’t in real life. It’s not just regulated to Dak. Romo discussions were polarizing like that. I honestly don’t know why that is other than we are on the internet and things tend to get ugly on the internet.
I understand your point and don't necessarily disagree.

It's a cop out though. You have the ability for self control. The vast majority of posters don't make it personal and don't continue on in those road to nowhere threads.

There is a small group who always does.
 

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I mean I’m telling you there’s nothing emotionally and you seem to want it to be lol. Going back and forth with posters is not a sign to you being bothered or emotionally charged. I think a bigger sign is when you see people resort to name calling and insults without being provoked.
I agree.

Back to my original question.

Why do you guys let it bother you so much you attack? Provoked or unprovoked?
 

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Forget the explanation. No one likes a guy coming here and acting like he is so much better than the rest. That’s how you come off.
I hate to say it Rocky but this is typical of you and exactly what I expected.

I giggle at the thought of @zrinkill coming out of the woodwork to comment yet he is not upset and has no feelings hurt.

I LOVE this place.
Much better than Love Island.
 

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I understand your point and don't necessarily disagree.

It's a cop out though. You have the ability for self control. The vast majority of posters don't make it personal and don't continue on in those road to nowhere threads.

There is a small group who always does.
It’s not a cop out I’m just telling you what I think it is. Maybe I’m wrong. But this goes back to what I told you originally…..maybe ask the people who do this type of stuff? You tagged me and two other people snd if you’re insinuating that we were the ones in that thread emotionally invested and throwing insults? I’d have to strongly disagree.
 

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I hate to say it Rocky but this is typical of you and exactly what I expected.

I giggle at the thought of @zrinkill coming out of the woodwork to comment yet he is not upset and has no feelings hurt.

I LOVE this place.
Much better than Love Island.
Yes I typically tell the truth.
 
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