Should the Cowboys draft Reggie Nelson?

Deputy493;1357154 said:
BPA is the best strategy that the best teams us....do you think NE passed on Ben Watson because they had just drafted Daniel Graham the year before? How did taking LJ when they still had Priest Holmes breaking records work out for KC?

New England runs a two-TE system. They needed Ben Watson. KC's plan worked out well, then again alot of teams are drafting two capable RBs. KC would be well-served to do that again, before Herm ruins Johnson. Without looking at those drafts, and their team needs, it would be really difficult to tell if they would have been better served by taking another player. It's just be speculation.

and where do you get we need a CB more than a Safety? Did you watch any of our games? You honestly think if we took Reggie Nelson he would be burried on the bench? Behind who? Killer Keith and Pat Watkins? Please..........and to answer your question if you have two players grade dthe same then you take the player that fills the bigger need, but if you have a Safety who clearly grades higher than a CB, yes, you take the Safety without thinking twice.

When you draft based on need that's how you end up with the Shante Carver's and David LaFleurs of the world.

I have some hope for Watkins. I think he's got the talent, just not the brains or the body so far. I don't know that we'd be better served just starting over and replacing him. IMO, the best thing you can do for a secondary is improve the group in fornt of them. That's why I don't think we'd really see any difference with a rookie FS back there.

We need a CB more, because Glenn is old, Henry is showing signs of age, and I don't think Reeves and Jones are acceptable replacements, although Reeves has played well in spots. We'd be well served taking a guy like the Chargers took last year, if hes there.
 
Deputy493;1357154 said:
How did taking LJ when they still had Priest Holmes breaking records work out for KC?
Priest was hurt and KC took LJ for insurance in case Holmes didn't return to 100%. I live here and know what I am talking about. Many thought Priest was done.
and where do you get we need a CB more than a Safety?
Talk is Henry is going to FS which mean we need a quality starting CB. Glenn isn't starting material. Watkins isn't going any where either so we are OK there. The need for a quality starting CB is actually quite huge.
When you draft based on need that's how you end up with the Shante Carver's and David LaFleurs of the world.
Unles you know what you are doing and not just reaching for players. We drafted bad in every round of those drafts not just the first round.
 
Hostile;1357024 said:
Laron Landry of LSU is better.

He might be but this past season it wasnt even close as to who was better.

Reggie Nelson was the best Safety in the Nation this past season and I felt he should have won the Thorpe award over Aaron Ross. I believe he still finished 2nd.

Nelson is also a JR and his range is just absolutely crazy.

I think hes one of those guys that if you have to you can line him up and let him play man to man on teams receivers in situation.

Landry is good but I think Nelson will be far better.

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Reggie Nelson, Free Safety, Florida
(Towards the end of this clip, there is profanity in the background music)

- While Laron Landry might have a leg up on Reggie Nelson overall, Nelson isn't as far behind as some might think. Landry is a big hitter and tackler overall, but Nelson's specialty is destroying WRs and intimidating them.

- Take a look at the way Nelson is able to read where the QB is going with the ball and how quickly he gets there. Nelson is considered much better than Landry in coverage.
- Nelson is hyper-competitive and plays with a sense of urgency on almost every snap.

- While some big hitters are always looking for kill shots, notice how Nelson seems to have a good grasp on when to lay into WRs and when to make a play on the ball.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2007/01/youtube_prospect_highlights_pe.html
 
Reggie Nelson is knocking Tight Ends out for god sake. Him and Roy Williams will be a fearless back-field. These two are liable to cause damage with combo hits.

I believe Landry is good too, he reminds me a little of Darren Woodson.
 
Reggie Nelson FS/CB Florida

STRENGTHS
Reggie is a ball-hawking FS who is quick more than he is fast. He shows me on film that he is very smart, has good instincts and knows how to bait a QB into an interception. He is a solid tackler and looks like he has some leadership skills through his play on the field. Reggie reminds me a lot of Ed Reed (S Baltimore Ravens). He has that same ability to come up with the big play at the most opportune times of a game. He is very good when he keeps the play in front of him and works well with his CB’s in zone coverage. Reggie is a playmaker who should help on special teams and in making interceptions in nickel-dime packages for the team that drafts him right away.

NEEDS TO IMPROVE
Reggie has the physical body suited more to the CB position than the safety position. The lack of bulk to take the pounding that a starting safety takes in the NFL is a big concern. His body type does not lend itself to being able to increase his bulk without losing his speed and quickness. He will be worked out at the CB position, but I’m not convinced he has the hip-flip and lateral agility to play man-to-man coverage at the next level; however, he should be fine in a zone coverage scheme. Reggie will also have problems covering and tackling TE’s at the next level without getting injured from the safety position.

TALENT BOARD ROUND: 1
The big concern is: how many games can Reggie play without getting injured? His talent is first round, but his body type for the position might move him to the 2nd round. I’m not sure he can be a sixteen game starter in the NFL and this will cause problems. Maybe I’m being too picky. Reggie is such a good playmaker that, for me, personally, that has to override the possible injury factor. The truth is, if Reggie shows true CB skills, then those skills would most likely move him up to a possible top fifteen pick in my mind for this draft. There is no doubt that he can play the game. There is no doubt that he is smart or that he plays with passion…the only nagging concern is whether or not he can stay on the field at the safety position for sixteen games. To that I say, “Draft him and COACH BETTER!” If he shows the speed to be a sideline to sideline single free safety, then we have a winner. So the one thing to look for with Reggie in his workouts will be how fast is he. Does he have 4.30 to 4.40 speed or is he a 4.60 player? For me, personally, his playmaking skills alone make him a 1st round talent and I say draft him and figure the other stuff out later on. He will be a recurring nightmare to the opposing offensive coordinator and QB -- that’s why I call him Reggie (Nightmare) Nelson.

- Drew Boylhart (thehuddlereport.com)
 
^^^^^^

Injuries can be said for any player and he has shown zero signs of being injury prone so that weakness as of now is nothing more than a myth.
 
marchetta;1357339 said:
The big concern is: how many games can Reggie play without getting injured? His talent is first round, but his body type for the position might move him to the 2nd round. I’m not sure he can be a sixteen game starter in the NFL and this will cause problems.
I don't need any more reason than that to know we shouldn't draft him.
 
big dog cowboy;1357371 said:
I don't need any more reason than that to know we shouldn't draft him.

The guy has no facts to base that on though. Hes just throwing that out there and hoping it sticks.

Thats just his opinion and its based on nothing.
 
Hostile;1357071 said:
Good job ignoring the point. That took real character.

That describes Ed Reed though huh?

I'm not bagging on Nelson. I'd love to have him. I responded to the ridiculous assertion that he is the only 1st round caliber Safety. You decided to say something ridiculous too.

You might want to re-think your stance before you state it again.

Are you serious? Again, I'm not trying to say Landry can't play but simply Nelson is the Ed Reed this team needs....
 
ThreeSportStar80;1357414 said:
Are you serious? Again, I'm not trying to say Landry can't play but simply Nelson is the Ed Reed this team needs....


Agreed.. Landry looks to stiff to me.... But then again I am a one game scout;)
 
McCordsville Cowboy;1357219 said:
I forgot you were Laron's Agent...:cool: Can I get a cut too?
No cut for you!

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ThreeSportStar80;1357414 said:
Are you serious? Again, I'm not trying to say Landry can't play but simply Nelson is the Ed Reed this team needs....
Yeah, I'm serious. I've seen enough of Laron Landry to know he isn't compared to Roy Williams. I wanted him to declare last year. I think he is closer to Ed Reed than Nelson is.
 
McCordsville Cowboy;1357434 said:
Agreed.. Landry looks to stiff to me.... But then again I am a one game scout;)
Now it's a whole game? You based your previous opinion on one play. Next you'll say you've seen every game he's played.
 
As good as Nelson is, the thought of drafting S in the first is maddening. I also agree Landry is better.
 
Sarge;1357525 said:
As good as Nelson is, the thought of drafting S in the first is maddening. I also agree Landry is better.

I agree somewhat, but after seeing the kind of impact the return of Bob Sanders had on the Colts, it makes you rethink the importance of good safety play.
 
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