shabazz
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Spot on.No ....... someone else just needs to decide who gets second contracts.
Jerry and Son are just bad at it.
Spot on.No ....... someone else just needs to decide who gets second contracts.
Jerry and Son are just bad at it.
that's stupid. mike fisher is stupid.Mike Fisher made a good point of the Cowboys not doing 2nd contract, but retooling, after their rookie deal is up, and get more players. Maybe you even trade them before their rookie deal is up.. Doesn't sound like a bad idea, probably not the most realistic, but we love to keep our drafted guys and pay them accordingly. To avoid these big deals, why not do this?? Please give your thoughts
I agree but how much input did Quinn have in signing Diggs? Garrett had input into signing Zeke. Did McCarthy have any input into Dak's third contract? I guess my point is, these coaches are gone (McCarthy will be soon) and the players with their bad contracts remain. Who is helping decide?No ....... someone else just needs to decide who gets second contracts.
Jerry and Son are just bad at it.
I do not thinks Diggs is a bad contract ........ I think Diggs is a ball hawk and would be great if we had any kind of pass rush .....I agree but how much input did Quinn have in signing Diggs? Garrett had input into signing Zeke. Did McCarthy have any input into Dak's third contract? I guess my point is, these coaches are gone (McCarthy will be soon) and the players with their bad contracts remain. Who is helping decide?
it's a clause in the cowboys bill of rights to do this!!!!How about not signing guys to extensions when they are coming off serious injuries.
Jerry fails continually knowing the Fan Base will buy into "It's this guy's fault" smokescreen. From scouting, draft room, free agency, coaching, and roster decisions........We belong in the XFL with this version of a team.Tyler Smith Jake Ferguson Overshown lets hopefully see the old Bland after injury Parsons ….Beebe & hopefully Guyton keep developing . I see Tolbert developing into a reliable outlet . I mean you can’t make a blanket statement “ don’t offer second contracts “ that’s Fisher , he squawks for clicks .
Look no further than Philly . Lane Johnson Jason Kelce Davonta Smith Dallas Goedert Brandon Graham Fletcher Cox Landon Dickerson among others who have spent entire careers as Eagles who contend yearly . If you never second contract guys heck your constantly rebuilding
You can’t not give second contracts but you have to pick and choose who you give second contracts. And you have to plan ahead so the guys you aren’t then you trade them before for extra picks. My biggest frustration with Jerry is there’s no plan. If you were gonna extend Dak then why not get lamb done sooner when it would have been cheaper? Why did you not look at the fact you would be starting 2 rookies on the oline and see you needed better talent at RB so you could run the ball and help protect your rookies? Nothing works if you just wing it every year. You need a plan for every off season and a couple years ahead of the decisions you plan on making.Mike Fisher made a good point of the Cowboys not doing 2nd contract, but retooling, after their rookie deal is up, and get more players. Maybe you even trade them before their rookie deal is up.. Doesn't sound like a bad idea, probably not the most realistic, but we love to keep our drafted guys and pay them accordingly. To avoid these big deals, why not do this?? Please give your thoughts
That's kind of my point. Dan Quinn manufactured a pass rush so Diggs could thrive and earn a second contract. Bring in a new coach that does not generate a pass rush, for whatever reason, and Diggs is no longer as effective. Dallas hasn't got the coaching correct in a very long time.I do not thinks Diggs is a bad contract ........ I think Diggs is a ball hawk and would be great if we had any kind of pass rush .....
Fixed.Or you can simply make them the highest paid player in the HISTORY of the NFL twice
Because he thinks he will find the next QB with one. Instead of investing a 1st round pick in one.If you have no intention of resigning a talented player, then trade them.
Jerry is in love with Comp Picks for some reason. A comp pick comes a year after they left your team, which makes a late 3rd(basically an early 4th), a late 4th or basically an early 5th.
So at best in reality you get an early 5th round value in return.
Someone needs to educate Jerry that comp picks are not going to get us to the promise land.
Then you will never win anything. You have to give some players 2nd contracts. They just do not know how to manage the cap. They never have.Mike Fisher made a good point of the Cowboys not doing 2nd contract, but retooling, after their rookie deal is up, and get more players. Maybe you even trade them before their rookie deal is up.. Doesn't sound like a bad idea, probably not the most realistic, but we love to keep our drafted guys and pay them accordingly. To avoid these big deals, why not do this?? Please give your thoughts
If you are not going to make trades and cash in the players for draft picks, I don't see how that could work. Our problem is that we re-sign everybody we can and trade nobody. Some positions are harder to replace than others. I have no problem re-signing guys like Tyron Smith and Zach Martin to second contracts . I do have a problem re-signing guys like Zeke and CD to second contracts b/c those positions are easy to replace in the draft. Rbs are basically plug and play and wrs are not too far behind. You don't need the highest paid rb or wr to win in the league. Our FO gets emotionally attached to certain players and the players take full advantage.Mike Fisher made a good point of the Cowboys not doing 2nd contract, but retooling, after their rookie deal is up, and get more players. Maybe you even trade them before their rookie deal is up.. Doesn't sound like a bad idea, probably not the most realistic, but we love to keep our drafted guys and pay them accordingly. To avoid these big deals, why not do this?? Please give your thoughts
So trueI’ve pretty much been saying this for quite some time. You have to be very selective about giving out second contracts and even more selective about third contracts.
If you are not going to fish in the free agency pond you have to supplement your draft with extra draft picks.
We have paid massively for a player like Zack Martin. He’s been a great player but we could have let him walk for a third in free agency or traded him in year 4 of his rookie deal for probably a first round pick.
We woukd have saved tens of millions on that one player and should have been able to find an acceptable substitute for the pick we received by trading him. In reality it’s very hard to justify paying a guard a mega deal. They are just not worth it on their second contract.
We are vastly overpaying for past results instead of future performance.
Well you certainly can't pay them after they tear an acl. Pure dumbness that seems to be the norm here.Mike Fisher made a good point of the Cowboys not doing 2nd contract, but retooling, after their rookie deal is up, and get more players. Maybe you even trade them before their rookie deal is up.. Doesn't sound like a bad idea, probably not the most realistic, but we love to keep our drafted guys and pay them accordingly. To avoid these big deals, why not do this?? Please give your thoughts