Should Tony Romo receive consideration for MVP?

[dbair1967]

I dont think he'll win it, but if we finish 11-5 or 12-4 and he has huge numbers vs that december schedule, he should defintiely be a candidate.

Long way to go though.

 

[percyhoward]

He probably still won't make the Pro Bowl.

Which 3 do you think go ahead of him?

 

[AbeBeta]

had he not been hurt, he'd be in the hunt.

right now we'd need to run the table.

he will finish with outstanding numbers but he's not even the 3rd most valuable QB in the NFC right now

 

[AbeBeta]

Which 3 do you think go ahead of him?

Warner and brees are obvious. If the giants continue to play well, you've got to give Eli a spot.

 

[jazzcat22]

NFL MVP is nothing without a SB to go with it.
Like going undefeated then losing the SB.

 

[dbair1967]

Warner and brees are obvious. If the giants continue to play well, you've got to give Eli a spot.

Depending on how we end up, I'd probably disagree. Romo's numbers despite missing 3 games are all pretty much better than Manning's...if we finish 11-5 or 12-4 and he has big numbers, he would have to be considered one of the "most valuable players" by far. Look how bad we were without him. This is a 6-10 team without Romo for 16 games.

 

[percyhoward]

Warner and brees are obvious. If the giants continue to play well, you've got to give Eli a spot.

A lot of football left to be played, and logic plays no part in this popularity contest, but...

Right now, the logic by which Eli would go, would keep Brees out. And vice-versa.

 

[Eskimo]

If he puts up good numbers and let's us run the table from 5-4 to 12-4 he will probably take the award. It helps out his cause that BJ was so terrible.

 

[AbeBeta]

Depending on how we end up, I'd probably disagree. Romo's numbers despite missing 3 games are all pretty much better than Manning's...if we finish 11-5 or 12-4 and he has big numbers, he would have to be considered one of the "most valuable players" by far. Look how bad we were without him. This is a 6-10 team without Romo for 16 games.

But we are talking about a QB who a) won the SB and b) leads the league's most dominating team. He may not have the numbers that Romo has but he's really showed a lot since voting closed on the last pro bowl.

The idea that we are a 6-10 team without Romo is not a legitimate basis for a pro bowl spot. That's all about having a crap set of backups.

 

[AbeBeta]

A lot of football left to be played, and logic plays no part in this popularity contest, but...

Right now, the logic by which Eli would go, would keep Brees out. And vice-versa.

No Brees, is having what projects to be a record breaking statistical season. Manning is leading the best team in the league. Romo is somewhere in the middle - neither breaking records or leading a great team.

 

[dbair1967]

But we are talking about a QB who a) won the SB and b) leads the league's most dominating team. He may not have the numbers that Romo has but he's really showed a lot since voting closed on the last pro bowl.

The idea that we are a 6-10 team without Romo is not a legitimate basis for a pro bowl spot. That's all about having a crap set of backups.

the 6-10 stuff is support that he is a legit MVP candidate.

If his numbers are better than Mannings, especially in fewer games then he deserves a spot over him.

 

[percyhoward]

No Brees, is having what projects to be a record breaking statistical season. Manning is leading the best team in the league. Romo is somewhere in the middle - neither breaking records or leading a great team.

Seems to me, Romo's being in the middle is exactly what puts him in the conversation.

 

[AbeBeta]

the 6-10 stuff is support that he is a legit MVP candidate.

If his numbers are better than Mannings, especially in fewer games then he deserves a spot over him.

The 6-10 stuff is stupid. Gee, if the team didn't have Romo we'd suck. Why? Because we don't have a legitimate backup. If we had a decent backup we'd be better without him. That's not about Romo but about bad personnel decisions behind him.

Romo DOES have better numbers than Manning. But not by such a wide margin that he's dominating Manning. And outcome-wise, Mannings' team is doing far better.

 

[AbeBeta]

Seems to me, Romo's being in the middle is exactly what puts him in the conversation.

So he's neither the best statistically or on a team with a great record. That just sounds like wishful thinking on your part.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Should he be in the conversation, sure but he shouldn't win it.

No disrepsect to Tony Romo and those that feel he should be in the conversation, but Brad Johnson sucking majorly overly overly accentuates Tony Romo's worth to the team.

Like many stated when we had to suffer through Brad Johnson, if we would have had a better plan in the Offseason to secure a better backup Quarterback, we would have been better off. We would have still missed Tony Romo but not as much.

 

[dbair1967]

The 6-10 stuff is stupid. Gee, if the team didn't have Romo we'd suck. Why? Because we don't have a legitimate backup.

Romo's pretty unique, he's also really damn good. We still wouldnt be a winning team without him, that unless you think somebody like Payton manning or Tom Brady is out there to back him up.

If we had a decent backup we'd be better without him.

huh?

That's not about Romo but about bad personnel decisions behind him.

its about him being really damn good, and raising the level of play of those around him.

Romo DOES have better numbers than Manning. But not by such a wide margin that he's dominating Manning.

he's played 3 less games. Has the same amount of tds...higher comp %, higher TD%, higher yds per attempt, Higher QB rating. He's the better player, period.

And outcome-wise, Mannings' team is doing far better.

so? the Giants have been better than us. Their OL and running game is far btter than ours. That makes it even all the more apparent how important Romo is to our team.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I think Romo would have been the favorite to win MVP hadn't he suffered the broken thumb...

 

[zeroburrito]

edit: wrong thread.

 

[Cowboys2008]

Drew Brees & Brett Favre. Those will be your top 2 MVP candidates this year. And Romo will probably fall closely thereafter, similar to last season. My bet though is Favre will get it seeing as how Brees probably won't even make the playoffs.

 

[AbeBeta]

Romo's pretty unique, he's also really damn good. We still wouldnt be a winning team without him, that unless you think somebody like Payton manning or Tom Brady is out there to back him up.

He is unique - but my point is that you can't say he's an MVP type because we suck when he's gone. MVP is about what you do when you are on the field. Not fantasies about what would happen when you are gone

huh?

Meant to say we'd be better than 6-10 with a decent backup.

he's played 3 less games. Has the same amount of tds...higher comp %, higher TD%, higher yds per attempt, Higher QB rating. He's the better player, period.

He is the better player. But this game isn't about fantasy stats. It is about wins. And Manning is kicking Romo's butt in that department.

so? the Giants have been better than us. Their OL and running game is far btter than ours. That makes it even all the more apparent how important Romo is to our team.

And last year we were 13-3 and pretty much every starter on our team made the probowl. Good teams get their players in the probowl. Mediocre teams don't.

You play too much "what if," Dave. If Romo had a better OL. If he had a better running game. Please. The QB who leads the best team in the NFL has a serious and legit claim on being in the pro bowl, especially given that he's got a 90+PR.