Should Von Miller be allowed to play?

[GimmeTheBall!]

Please enlighten us to all the facts. Because you clearly have them.

Who has all the facts? Who told you? I did not. Did I?

 

[Kevinicus]

He was never arrested. What legal process? There wasn't a court case or anything.

There was no process at all, except for Judge Goodell (against the findings of his own people) handing out sentencing.

They would've suspended him sooner, but he fought back against it. THAT's why it took a year.

There was an investigation. The NFL let the police do their thing first.

 

[Bobhaze]

Zeke was never even arrested but the Goodell sat him down on the accusation of a proven liar.

Meanwhile, Miller was arrested for alleged domestic abuse against a pregnant woman on Thursday. (Even though he had an arrest warrant since Nov.30)


The league knew about it for two weeks. They never cared about innocent until proven guilty before, so what's the exception here?

The thing most people don’t understand or remember in the Zeke situation…whether we agree with the decision or not - The NFL investigated that incident for months before a decision was made.

Zeke’s alleged misconduct happened in July, 2016 but the NFL did not release a decision on that for nearly a year. Again, not saying I agree with the NFL’s decision, but my point is these things take time to investigate properly. Von Miller deserves “due process” like anyone else.

 

[pansophy]

Zeke was never even arrested but the Goodell sat him down on the accusation of a proven liar.

Meanwhile, Miller was arrested for alleged domestic abuse against a pregnant woman on Thursday. (Even though he had an arrest warrant since Nov.30)


The league knew about it for two weeks. They never cared about innocent until proven guilty before, so what's the exception here?

Press coverage. Didn’t even know this happened.

 

[Teague31]

The legal process was complete in Zeke's case, before the league imposed any suspension. The league is supposed to wait until that is over before they take action.

There was no legal process in Zeke’s case. That’s kind of the point

 

[JMech]

You have proof? Or is her word worth more than his?

That is what the woman told the 911 center and what she told police when they got there. Marks on her face and neck where he choked her suggested that it wasn't a he-said, she-said.

 

[GrouchySmurf]

There was no legal process in Zeke’s case. That’s kind of the point

Thank you.

 

[JMech]

Many of the people in the Buffalo area are shocked he is playing and additionally are surprised that the team did not respond to this situation.

 

[GrouchySmurf]

A Chiefs player was arrested on Oct 23rd for alleged domestic violence and just returned this week after serving a six-week suspension.

Due process you say? NOTHING is consistent in this league. Nothing.

 

[Kevinicus]

There was no legal process in Zeke’s case. That’s kind of the point

But there was. A police investigation is a legal process.

 

[starfrombirth]

Yes, let us all assume she's lying and the man is innocent.

Yes, let us all assume he's guilty and she couldn't possibly have any other agenda. See what I did there? Innocent until proven guilty. It's a founding principle of our great nation.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

In a sane world, this is the case.

But Goodell long ago decided that mere accusations were all he needed. Zeke wasn't arrested because even police didn't believe the accusation. But he was still suspended by the league.

I'm trying to find out what changed from then to now?

Nothing has changed. If he had a ✭, it be different.

 

[droopdog7]

So it's been a little over a month for Miller? How long was it between Zeke's incident and his suspension? I'm guessing it well over a month?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yes, let us all assume he's guilty and she couldn't possibly have any other agenda. See what I did there? Innocent until proven guilty. It's a founding principle of our great nation.

Or from thy Magna carta?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Who has all the facts? Who told you? I did not. Did I?

You are the one who said "Too bad the macho set at the forum is all defence and no concern shown the victim."

Clearly you know something none of us in the 'macho set' do.

 

[dogunwo]

If the League was legit with any kind of moral compass it would paint:
"End Domestic Violence" in its end-zones.

Or better yet: just paint nothing.

That said, I have no opinion on Von Miller as a person until all evidence is in, and verdict rendered. Accusations are just that.

What's wrong with what's painted now?

 

[lukin2006]

You have proof? Or is her word worth more than his?

Is that really you, Jason Witten? Impressive.

 

[jwitten82]

Is that really you, Jason Witten? Impressive.

Yes, now what?

 

[Bobhaze]

Zeke - never arrested. Suspended

Von- arrested. Playing

Right. But remember, the incident Zeke was eventually suspended for took place in summer, 2016. He played the entire 2016 season. The NFL did a long investigation before suspending him for 6 games in 2017.

The Miller incident happened 3 weeks ago. Like any player, he deserves due process which will take some time. We won’t know what the NFL finds in this investigation for a while.

 

[Sarge]

Is Von Miller a scumbag? Probably. But accusations do not equal convictions. Everyone is entitled to have their day in court….if he gets convicted than he should get a whopper of a penalty from the league. WHOP WHOPPER!