Should we trade down in 1st round?

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No, I'm not a draft freak so be kind. Just seems like we have SO many holes:
Corner back, Linebacker, Oline, Dline, etc.....thoughts on trading down from our slot which should be 6-10ish?
 
Wed have to find a buyer and for the price of the player plus the loss of draft picks it would have to be enticing more so for the buying team then for us
 
I'm a firm believer in always getting the best value you can with each draft pick. No preconceived notions on what position to draft in which exact spot, just combining need and especially value as best as possible.

So, if there is a superstar player that we love sitting there at slot 8 (for example)and we consider him to be great value at a need postion...by all means go for it.

Otherwise, if you are at slot 8 and there is no player that you love sitting there that fits that value, certainly trade down if a fair offer is presented.
 
This team needs quality, not quanity.

They tried to go the quanity route with the '09 draft and that proved to be a disaster.

When you have been afforded a high draft pick, the top talent in the draft is available to you, it's paramount that you take the best talent.
 
realtick;3745631 said:
This team needs quality, not quanity.

They tried to go the quanity route with the '09 draft and that proved to be a disaster.

When you have been afforded a high draft pick, the top talent in the draft is available to you, it's paramount that you take the best talent.
So very true.
 
It's hard to speculate right now. We don't know how high the pick will be, we don't know who will be available so we don't know if it will be somebody we covet or what another team would be willing to pay for him, and we don't even have that good a feel for the players who will be in the draft because projections and ratings will change so much over the next 3-4 months.

In general I like the idea of trading down, but I there are just too many unknowns at this point.
 
DFWJC;3745640 said:
So very true.

John Phillips and perhaps David Buehler notwithstanding, the '09 draft will go down in infamy.

3rd round - Jason Williams GONE
3rd round - Robert Brewster PRACTICE SQUAD
4th round - Stephen McGee REMAINS
4th round - Victor Butler REMAINS
4th round - Brandon Williams REMAINS
5th round - DeAngelo Smith GONE
5th round - David Buehler REMAINS
5th round - Mike Hamlin GONE
6th round - Stephen Hodge GONE
6th round - John Phillips REMAINS
7th round - Mike Mickens GONE
7th round - Manny Johnson PRACTICE SQUAD

It wouldn't surprise me at all if a guy like Brandon Williams might even get the boot at some point next year too.
 
realtick;3745663 said:
John Phillips and perhaps David Buehler notwithstanding, the '09 draft will go down in infamy.

3rd round - Jason Williams GONE
3rd round - Robert Brewster PRACTICE SQUAD
4th round - Stephen McGee REMAINS
4th round - Victor Butler REMAINS
4th round - Brandon Williams REMAINS
5th round - DeAngelo Smith GONE
5th round - David Buehler REMAINS
5th round - Mike Hamlin GONE
6th round - Stephen Hodge GONE
6th round - John Phillips REMAINS
7th round - Mike Mickens GONE
7th round - Manny Johnson PRACTICE SQUAD

It wouldn't surprise me at all if a guy like Brandon Williams might even get the boot at some point next year too.

It doesn't look good, but it's not from us making a mistake in trading down for more picks, it's simply that we didn't use them well. As long as this kind of draft isn't the norm I'm not going to worry too much about it.
 
these are the only two I take that high Nick Fairleyor Prince Amukamara


other wise I trade down pick one of these guys and get another pick

Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
Derek Sherrod OT, Mississippi State
Gabe Carimi OT, Wisconsin
 
Stautner;3745676 said:
It doesn't look good, but it's not from us making a mistake in trading down for more picks, it's simply that we didn't use them well. As long as this kind of draft isn't the norm I'm not going to worry too much about it.

Well, in all fairness, our first pick in the '09 draft wasn't until the 3rd round, so the chances of drafting a scrub/lesser player grew exponentially, as opposed to drafting in the 1st round.

That draft was just a complete failure; we failed to move up and acquire targeted players and we reached for other players.

Having said that, this year's draft is top heavy in talent, which should provide Dallas with picking a premeir player in the Top 10.
 
We are in a position that we can reasonably trade up to get the best d-lineman in the draft (Nick Fairley) we need to take advantage of that. If anything we should be trading up not down.
 
newlander;3745594 said:
No, I'm not a draft freak so be kind. Just seems like we have SO many holes:
Corner back, Linebacker, Oline, Dline, etc.....thoughts on trading down from our slot which should be 6-10ish?

Dallas has a habit of screwing up the draft by geting too cute. I would trade to get one of the top two cb's. Newman is getting old, Jenkins who the heck knows what is going on with him. The rest of the draft should be spent on the offensive line.

Some of the holes can easily be filled through free agency but you cannot get quality cb's in free agency.
 
DFWJC;3745618 said:
I'm a firm believer in always getting the best value you can with each draft pick. No preconceived notions on what position to draft in which exact spot, just combining need and especially value as best as possible.

So, if there is a superstar player that we love sitting there at slot 8 (for example)and we consider him to be great value at a need postion...by all means go for it.

Otherwise, if you are at slot 8 and there is no player that you love sitting there that fits that value, certainly trade down if a fair offer is presented.

^^This^^
 
I looked at New England's roster.

They start 8 of their 2nd draft choices, and 5 of their number ones.

Five undrafted free agents start. Note: I consider Welker a 2 since NE traded a 2 and a 7 to Miami.

Gerard Warren was a one at Cleveland but was a free agent signee by NE.

Two fives and, of course, ONE six start.

Conclusion: load up on 2s and look at free agents.
 
TheCount;3746056 said:
Nah. Trade up and get the guy you want.

I'd rather do this as well.

Actually, I'd rather just stay put.

When you are in the top 10-12, you can get a player.

I really think this would be the year to have the 1st pick in the draft. The next CBA is going to have a slotted rookie cap. There is no way that I can see the owners going without it.

That 1st pick with Luck is going to be prime. If you are a team with a QB, you could probably really have some buyers coming for it without the huge contract ball and chain attached.

I think Dallas will be in a good position to do some dealing and move down but I'd rather they move up and get a guaranteed stud. I don't know who, I don't follow it enough but apparently the DB from LSU is as sure as it gets.

If you can an elite player at a good cost, I think you have to jump.
 
If Dallas could get a mid 1st rd pick and be able to add another 2nd rd pick I would be in favor it.
 
Doomsday101;3747459 said:
If Dallas could get a mid 1st rd pick and be able to add another 2nd rd pick I would be in favor it.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind that either I guess in this particular draft.

But if you gotta jump up a couple of spots to get a guy you truely covet, I say you do it.
 
TheCount;3747486 said:
Yeah, I wouldn't mind that either I guess in this particular draft.

But if you gotta jump up a couple of spots to get a guy you truely covet, I say you do it.

True if there is a player you like then you may move up. I just think you can gets some top players in the mid 1st as well as 2nd rd and be able to fill some need areas. To me the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rds are the keys to the draft. If you can hit on those top picks it has been a good draft
 
Doomsday101;3747494 said:
True if there is a player you like then you may move up. I just think you can gets some top players in the mid 1st as well as 2nd rd and be able to fill some need areas. To me the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rds are the keys to the draft. If you can hit on those top picks it has been a good draft

The more I look at it, the more it seems we'll miss out on those elite guys if we stay put in the first so I'm on board with maybe dropping down a few spots to load up in the 2nd.
 

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