Should we trade Micah?

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CWR said:
Why? The Raiders did for Mack. Or is it just because Jerry is a moron? I can go with you on that.
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Trades involving first round picks, particularly multiple first round picks have not worked out well for the teams giving up the picks. “Draft hauls” are just fantasy scenarios. GM’s value early round draft picks more than ever now. No team in the league has any future firsts traded away, very few future seconds have been traded, maybe three or four. Parsons might garner two third round picks from an interested team and that would only be if he’s already signed to an extension and the interested team can afford his new contract.

Parsons will be a Cowboys player until he’s shown the door.
 
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I wouldn’t trade him, but if for some reason they are inclined to, the best thing to do to raise value is announce to the world that you intend to cut him.
 

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KingCorcoran said:
Trades involving first round picks, particularly multiple first round picks have not worked out well for the teams giving up the picks. “Draft hauls” are just fantasy scenarios. GM’s value early round draft picks more than ever now. No team in the league has any future firsts traded away, very few future seconds have been traded, maybe three or four. Parsons might garner two third round picks from an interested team and that would only be if he’s already signed to an extension and the interested team can afford his new contract.

Parsons will be a Cowboys player until he’s shown the door.
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The Rams trade their firsts like candy. Their QB they got off of doing that exact same thing (and adding in their own QB). The Texans are probably very happy to have a franchise LT as they attempt to make a SB run. The teams that it did not work out for were making trades like that with awful positional value. No S is worth 2 1s just as an example. .
 
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Hell yes. I might let him go for just a first, depending on where it is.

I think he would make an awesome middle linebacker but we'll never know. We insist on playing him at defensive end where most of the tackles have a 100 lb weight advantage, at least.
 

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The Rams trade their firsts like candy. Their QB they got off of doing that exact same thing (and adding in their own QB). The Texans are probably very happy to have a franchise LT as they attempt to make a SB run. The teams that it did not work out for were making trades like that with awful positional value. No S is worth 2 1s just as an example. .
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Well, every single team has all of their first round draft picks in 2025 and 2026. 2027 picks are not available to be traded at this time. 29 teams have a second round pick in 2025. And Micah Parsons will be playing for the Cowboys in 2025 or holding out unwilling to risk injury playing on the fifth year option on his rookie deal. That’s reality. Trading him for draft picks in the first or second round is fantasy.
 
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KingCorcoran said:
Well, every single team has all of their first round draft picks in 2025 and 2026. 2027 picks are not available to be traded at this time. 29 teams have a second round pick in 2025. And Micah Parsons will be playing for the Cowboys in 2025 or holding out unwilling to risk injury playing on the fifth year option on his rookie deal. That’s reality. Trading him for draft picks in the first or second round is fantasy.
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If he holds out he's getting a deal. Everybody player knows that by now.
 

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Well, every single team has all of their first round draft picks in 2025 and 2026. 2027 picks are not available to be traded at this time. 29 teams have a second round pick in 2025. And Micah Parsons will be playing for the Cowboys in 2025 or holding out unwilling to risk injury playing on the fifth year option on his rookie deal. That’s reality. Trading him for draft picks in the first or second round is fantasy.
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Only because the Cowboys are not dumb enough to do it. If the Cowboys announced Parsons was available for 2 1s (barring his current injury which does complicate things), he would be traded before the deadline and the Cowboys would be a laughing stock. The reason you do not see trades on that level is simply because if you have a player good enough to do it, it would be stupid to do. Like lets talk about the non QBs who would fetch that price. Parsons, Nick Bosa, and maybe Garrett though he is 28 now. Then you have a plethora of WRs who would fetch a single first 1st in a trade (we know this because we have seen it in previous years) as well as a much longer list of defenders who would fill that spot. You do not see it often, though certainly 1 or 2 will happen in the offseason for a single 1st, because if you have a high value player worth a 1st round pick that means you have a top 5-7 at a prime position or a top 2-3 player at a very good position and those are the players good organizations sign.

That is the reason this is stupid because good organizations sign their premiere players. If you have someone that good you build around them rather than drafting someone who is almost certainly not as good.
 

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Only because the Cowboys are not dumb enough to do it. If the Cowboys announced Parsons was available for 2 1s (barring his current injury which does complicate things), he would be traded before the deadline and the Cowboys would be a laughing stock. The reason you do not see trades on that level is simply because if you have a player good enough to do it, it would be stupid to do. Like lets talk about the non QBs who would fetch that price. Parsons, Nick Bosa, and maybe Garrett though he is 28 now. Then you have a plethora of WRs who would fetch a single first 1st in a trade (we know this because we have seen it in previous years) as well as a much longer list of defenders who would fill that spot. You do not see it often, though certainly 1 or 2 will happen in the offseason for a single 1st, because if you have a high value player worth a 1st round pick that means you have a top 5-7 at a prime position or a top 2-3 player at a very good position and those are the players good organizations sign.

That is the reason this is stupid because good organizations sign their premiere players. If you have someone that good you build around them rather than drafting someone who is almost certainly not as good.
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I agree. If he is that good you keep him. I do take issue referring to the Dallas Cowboys as one of the NFL’s “good organizations”. My guess is Micah will miss camp holding out for a deal, unwilling to risk injury on the last year of his rookie deal, knowing any fines can be excused because he has not signed a subsequent contract.

Jerry will sign him a week before the first regular season game making him the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. And he’ll continue to be a Dallas Cowboys player.
 
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gtb1943 said:
You trade Micah if you are blowing up the team. Otherwise not.
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We can't afford him. If he demands money similar to Khalil Mack that's like $38 million a year. That would mean parsons, dak, and lamb account for 50% of the cap.

He's not worth it. He can't play the run and he's not going to last very long at defensive end. This is the first injury of many more to come.
 
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RonWashington said:
Has Parsons to this point had the career Mack had when traded . And to be honest Parsons will have to be replaced if he’s sent packing .
Edge pass rusher is paper thin on this team
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Parsons is not an Edge
He is a pass rushing LB in a 4-3 that cant stop the run
 
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