SI, Andrew Brandt: Elite QBs should not take less money to help their team

[diamonddelts]

I don’t know where this myth cams from they took less lol.

People don't read for themselves.

 

[John813]

Brady wouldn't have as many rings as he does if he maxxed out his contract demands, and no, teams can't just gimmick contracts like that away or else people like Brady wouldn't be willing to take a more team friendly deal.

Brady is an one off player.

Teams can gimmick contracts like that and do so. It's called restructuring. Almost every team does it.
You reduce the base salary to ~1mil(min vet salary) and the current year becomes base + original prorated bonus + new prorated bonus.

 

[tyke1doe]

You the fool. This really isn't a question. Brady wasn't making market money and he easily could have demanded more.

Does someone want to add this up for me?
Nevermind.
Brady is FILTHY rich!!!
And will STILL be making money (like millions of dollars) for the rest of his life.
The GOAT in more ways than on the field.
Baaaa!$!$!$!

 

[America's Cowboy]

This is Jerry.. lol I might take more in guaranteed cash or be willing to move things around to help the team, but I'm certainly not going to part with a huge sum. Even guys who might take a few dollars less aren't doing that.

That's fine. If I were Jerry, I would draft a QB early during next year's draft and put Dak on notice: work with us by taking a little discount...or get replaced asap.

 

[diamonddelts]

Nobody should expect Dak to willingly take less money to have a better team. That would obviously be crazy. The trade off however is that he is not the hero of the story. He is the overpaid hack that holds everyone else back.

Fair assessment.

 

[diamonddelts]

like me cutting back on 50 million guarantees anything. Nevermind 3 championships. Family comes first. Period. If I play for 6 seasons then retire you think it’s wise to leave 50 million on the table? This is the state of the league and thinking these players are going to give a discount for the sake of “hopefully” winning is far fetched. It’s up to the team to divvy up the cap space, not the player.

Great post.

 

[Big_D]

That's fine. If I were Jerry, I would draft a QB early during next year's draft and put Dak on notice: work with us by taking a little discount...or get replaced asap.

In theory that sounds great, but when you're usually sitting in the 20s on draft day it's not so easy. Plus I understand the sum of money seems ridiculous to you or I, but these guys are getting market value. The league created this mess and it is what it is. I certainly don't expect a QB to not take advantage of that situation. Would the rest of the team do the same? You have a GM who has proven his incompetence over the years. And then you have a roster of 52 other guys who won't be giving any discounts for the sake of winning when it's their turn. The QB takes a hit and everyone else is business as usual. I just don't see it happening with the money being thrown around these days.

 

[gtb1943]

like me cutting back on 50 million guarantees anything. Nevermind 3 championships. Family comes first. Period. If I play for 6 seasons then retire you think it’s wise to leave 50 million on the table? This is the state of the league and thinking these players are going to give a discount for the sake of “hopefully” winning is far fetched. It’s up to the team to divvy up the cap space, not the player.

Outside of Death nothing is ever guaranteed.

BUT I ask you what is the big difference between getting $500 million and $450 million?

Now you can give a stupid answer and say $50 million or you can ask yourself what difference in your life will that make?

OR are you claiming $450 million is slave wages?

 

[Big_D]

Outside of Death nothing is ever guaranteed.

BUT I ask you what is the big difference between getting $500 million and $450 million?

Now you can give a stupid answer and say $50 million or you can ask yourself what difference in your life will that make?

OR are you claiming $450 million is slave wages?

Ask Jerry that same question like 50 million is somehow unimportant even to the lifestyle of a billionaire. This is how poor people talk, not people who have a golden opportunity to make that kind of money in the first place. Thinking Dak is just going to give that up out of the kindness of his heart cause a guy living on 50K thinks it makes sense. lol

And that's exactly right .. nothing is guaranteed.

 

[conner01]

I agree. I wouldn't. A playing career is short.

From a team standpoint, you have to make the tough decisions, from the players standpoint, you have to get what you can while you can.

I agree
But there is a way to find a happy middle. Structure is really the key to a contract not just the money. A very team friendly structure while still getting your money is a win-win
And I think which contract is a huge factor. You’d be an idiot to take less on your second contract since it’s your first negotiated contract. It’s a bit different if it’s a 3rd or later contract

 

[conner01]

Outside of Death nothing is ever guaranteed.

BUT I ask you what is the big difference between getting $500 million and $450 million?

Now you can give a stupid answer and say $50 million or you can ask yourself what difference in your life will that make?

OR are you claiming $450 million is slave wages?

50 million is a lot of money
It’s not about slave labor. It’s about maximizing a very short career you’ve spent most of your life working on

 

[Big_D]

I agree
But there is a way to find a happy middle. Structure is really the key to a contract not just the money. A very team friendly structure while still getting your money is a win-win
And I think which contract is a huge factor. You’d be an idiot to take less on your second contract since it’s your first negotiated contract. It’s a bit different if it’s a 3rd or later contract

No doubt. I mentioned that earlier. How it's structured and maybe a few more dollars guaranteed. There are things that can be done to help the cause. I just think it's going overboard to think a sum like 50 million would be passed up for the sake of winning.

 

[conner01]

No doubt. I mentioned that earlier. How it's structured and maybe a few more dollars guaranteed. There are things that can be done to help the cause. I just think it's going overboard to think a sum like 50 million would be passed up for the sake of winning.

Guarantees can also be structured to help team. Guaranteed money has to go in escrow at signing so it’s a huge cash flow issue for some teams. But you can get around that by having guarantees kick in later in contract. We’ve done that some but you could do it more
For Dallas it’s not a big deal but some teams couldn’t do a deal like Watson got because they wouldn’t have the cash without borrowing which raises the cost

 

[gtb1943]

Ask Jerry that same question like 50 million is somehow unimportant even to the lifestyle of a billionaire. This is how poor people talk, not people who have a golden opportunity to make that kind of money in the first place. Thinking Dak is just going to give that up out of the kindness of his heart cause a guy living on 50K thinks it makes sense. lol

And that's exactly right .. nothing is guaranteed.

Actually that is how the most greedy of all talk.

Congratulations.

 

[gtb1943]

50 million is a lot of money
It’s not about slave labor. It’s about maximizing a very short career you’ve spent most of your life working on

I will ask you the same question that Big D avoided answering in any substantial way except to justify greed.

What is the difference to a person if he gets $450 million rather than $500 million?

 

[kskboys]

50 million is a lot of money
It’s not about slave labor. It’s about maximizing a very short career you’ve spent most of your life working on

50 mil is not a lot of money when you already have 450 mil. The difference is miniscule when you consider that either amount allows you and several generations to be very very rich. And unless you're just stupid w/ the money, it makes your family rich for the forseeable future.

 

[kskboys]

No doubt. I mentioned that earlier. How it's structured and maybe a few more dollars guaranteed. There are things that can be done to help the cause. I just think it's going overboard to think a sum like 50 million would be passed up for the sake of winning.

Why is money so important in your life that you don't care about anything else?

 

[Big_D]

Why is money so important in your life that you don't care about anything else?

lol that’s ridiculous. You might want to ask a person with the type of money we’re talking about that same question. See how quick they are to throw away 50 million no matter how much they have.

 

[Big_D]

Actually that is how the most greedy of all talk.

Congratulations.

Too funny!! This is exactly how fans who have no idea what that kind of money looks like talks. I'm not sitting on half a billion dollars, but if I was I wouldn't just flippantly throw away 50 million.

Congrats for the ignorant and completely out of touch post. How much money is too much? .. gtb1943 will let you know.

 

[Big_D]

335 million people in America and 32 of them are good enough to play QB in the NFL. That's a very exclusive club that earned their money. I know as fans we can talk about how much they make and how good or bad they are, but they're still among the best of the best of the best in a very competitive and rough sport to play where careers are very short. I don't think Joe Schmo sitting on his couch can really talk about greed in this situation.


I aways wondered why billionaires continue to even work? Are they greedy when they can just retire to an island and live a comfortable and extravagant lifestyle.. but instead choose to wake up every day and make more?