SI, Andrew Brandt: Elite QBs should not take less money to help their team

[Vtwin]

I keep reading things like "limited time to earn a lifetime of income". What a load of horse crap. They have a limited time to maximize their athletic potential but they have the rest of their lives to parlay the opportunities presented to them because of that athletic potential into further earnings.

At the end of the day, when it comes to the upper end QB contracts, it comes down to ego as much as anything.

 

[Big_D]

Let's repeat this for those who either forget history or don't know it. Jerry Jones spearheaded the salary cap in response to expanded free agency in the mid 90's. Yet Jerry Jones has shown to be a buffoon at navigating the salary cap and coming up with a Super Bowl winning roster. So why should kids who were not even born in the 90s be punished for Jerry Jones buffoonery? These young men have a limited time to make a lifetime worth of income. Their bodies will break down and many will have lingering injuries for the rest of their lives. Look up the N.F.L. pension and be prepared to laugh.

The N.F.L. is full of some of the most powerful athletes on Earth yet it is coupled with the weakest Union in all of pro sports. Not good protection for players in a violent game with a short window of play. So this "crab in a bucket" mentality of you take less for your fellow man was ushered in at the behest of a buffoon such as Jerry Jones. The same man who can not navigate within the crab in a bucket culture he helped create. So why should any young play suffer behind this? Meanwhile N.F.L. revenue sharing goes up amongst owners exponentially. No calls Jerry a idiot for buy a Yacht he does not need.

No one calls the owners cheap for negotiating contracts as low as possible on their end. Yet fans have no problem calling a player selfish for asking for the most money on their end. Common every day people siding with billionaires who have more money they can ever spend in 10 lifetimes. These men wipe their derrieres with a million dollars. Yet a much lower income player who has a short window to max out earnings is expected to constantly take less. Free your mind and the rest will follow.

He spearheaded the cap in response to the niners spending more than every other team by a large margin.

 

[diamonddelts]

I keep reading things like "limited time to earn a lifetime of income". What a load of horse crap. They have a limited time to maximize their athletic potential but they have the rest of their lives to parlay the opportunities presented to them because of that athletic potential into further earnings.

At the end of the day, when it comes to the upper end QB contracts, it comes down to ego as much as anything.

Get out there on the field and take that punishment. Then get back to us about how little money you will take.

 

[diamonddelts]

He spearheaded the cap in response to the niners spending more than every other team by a large margin.

NIners owner mortgaged his soul in some shady deals for that money. And was facing jail time. He could never pull that off again.

 

[diamonddelts]

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1995/07/30/dallas-jones-pushes-for-salary-cap/62383585007/

 

[diamonddelts]

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...ght-in-a-scandal-that-cost-him-the-49ers/amp/

 

[Dre11]

this is false, owners have to spend the cap on players they dont profit from it.
It just means more $ to spend on other players.

What players did the Patriots go out and pay with the money save from Brady? They didn't and Brady started to see it.

 

[diamonddelts]

What players did the Patriots go out and pay with the money save from Brady? They didn't and Brady started to see it.

Amen

 

[diamonddelts]

Every player deserves to get whatever they can and they owe it to themselves and their families to do so. But it is still admirable when a player like Brady takes a good but not absurd contract to help his team. The fact is, even if they take less money they are still getting paid a lot of money.

But the NFL has created this circumstance with free agency. Today, I think it is too much about the money. I look at Dak signing his last deal for only 4 years. He knew he would have Dallas over a barrel in 2025 and he knew he could get even more money. If he took $40 million for 6 years he would make $240 million. That is almost 1/4 of a billion for playing football 17 times per year.

I agree with your post. But why is it not admirable for owners to pay more?

 

[kskboys]

What players did the Patriots go out and pay with the money save from Brady? They didn't and Brady started to see it.

BS. Pats always signed a plethora of D players every year w/ the money they saved from Brady, not to mention some OL's. Think before you speak.

 

[kskboys]

Amen

You spoke too soon. Pats were stacked due to not paying out huge contracts.

Common knowledge, guys.

 

[shabazz]

A couple of GOAT's, Jordan and Brady took less. Championships and greatness can actually get you even more money in the long run.

the problem is that the agents want their money NOW.

they couldn’t give 2 craps about a players legacy or the good of the team…..just want that cash pronto

 

[diamonddelts]

the problem is that the agents want their money NOW.

they couldn’t give 2 craps about a players legacy or the good of the team…..just want that cash pronto

Exactly

 

[OmerV]

I keep reading things like "limited time to earn a lifetime of income". What a load of horse crap. They have a limited time to maximize their athletic potential but they have the rest of their lives to parlay the opportunities presented to them because of that athletic potential into further earnings.

At the end of the day, when it comes to the upper end QB contracts, it comes down to ego as much as anything.

For far and away most players, their maximum earning potential is in their prime playing years, and not all players are successful after leaving the NFL.

Ultimately, you are talking about putting off a present and certain payday and counting on making it up with unknown and uncertain opportunities in the future. That just doesn't compete, especially knowing even if those unknown and uncertain opportunities come to pass they will be there even if they take the certain money in the present.

That said, while I don't think a player should forgo money on his first big time contract, once a player has had, and played out that first big contract, and is negotiating another on the backside of his career, I don't think it's unreasonable if he chooses to give the team a break to help improve the odds of winning. But that's entirely up to the player, and could be influenced by whether the player has previously had team success.

 

[diamonddelts]

For far and away most players, their maximum earning potential is in their prime playing years, and not all players are successful after leaving the NFL.

Ultimately, you are talking about putting off a present and certain payday and counting on making it up with unknown and uncertain opportunities in the future. That just doesn't compete, especially knowing even if those unknown and uncertain opportunities come to pass they will be there even if they take the certain money in the present.

That said, while I don't think a player should forgo money on his first big time contract, once a player has had, and played out that first big contract, and is negotiating another on the backside of his career, I don't think it's unreasonable if he chooses to give the team a break to help improve the odds of winning. But that's entirely up to the player, and could be influenced by whether the player has previously had team success.

Amen x 2

 

[diamonddelts]

You spoke too soon. Pats were stacked due to not paying out huge contracts.

Common knowledge, guys.

Stacked is your opinion. Not ours.

 

[conner01]

It is when you have 450 mil.

Perspective, dude. Think, man. Exactly what can you do in your life w/ 500 mil that you can't do w/ 450 mil?

I wouldn’t walk away from 50 mil even if I had 450 already. And I suspect not very many people would

 

[Creeper]

I agree with your post. But why is it not admirable for owners to pay more?

The owners can't pay more. They are hamstrung by the CAP. If they go overboard on a QB, they pay for it somewhere else on the roster. Some owners would pay more if they could stack their team with talent If they do because they want to win, then that is admirable to the fans too.

 

[AbeBeta]

I keep reading things like "limited time to earn a lifetime of income". What a load of horse crap. They have a limited time to maximize their athletic potential but they have the rest of their lives to parlay the opportunities presented to them because of that athletic potential into further earnings.

At the end of the day, when it comes to the upper end QB contracts, it comes down to ego as much as anything.

Seriously? Parlay their opportunities?

Ya. People who were not born into opportunities have a really good chance of "parlaying" opportunities. Nice way to justify hating on players #dogwhistle

 

[diamonddelts]

Seriously? Parlay their opportunities?

Ya. People who were not born into opportunities have a really good chance of "parlaying" opportunities. Nice way to justify hating on players #dogwhistle

Yep. That post does not make sense. Take less money now for rhe same amount of punishment on tbe body. Then do more work to possibly attain money from various financial opportunities which may or may not happen later in life.I swear some people here have zero business acumen.