SI: Peter King MMQB (Romo Related)

[CrazyCowboy]

It's been a long time since I could say this, but there's no other QB in the NFL who I'd want over the one we have.

Amen

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Hah. I said this months ago, but some were still hanging onto Palmer.

Romo can chuck it a long ways. He just rarely has to. He's already got the ball out by the time the receiver has gone 10 yards downfield, and the rest is YAC from a perfectly placed pass.

Realistically, in an NFL season, you will only need to take advantage of a gun like Palmer's 10 times. OTOH, how often does Romo's nimble feet and rush-evasion come into play in a SINGLE game?

50 yards isnt a long way by Pro standards..

You dont see the Flea Flickers as much because he doesnt have the arm and will under throw the WR's. Dont know how many times this years he has underthrown T.O. His game is the intermediate routes with touch and accuracy. I wouldn't confuse him by any stretch of the imagination with a Palmer or Ben Arm..

Those QB's are a bit taller too and probably have bigger hands. If you have a pro arm with big hands, they can really zip those balls down the field.

 

[theogt]

50 yards isnt a long way by Pro standards..
You dont see the Flea Flickers as much because he doesnt have the arm and will under throw the WR's.Dont know how many times this years he has underthrown T.O. His game is the intermediate routes with touch and accuracy. I wouldn't confuse him by any stretch of the imagination with a Palmer or Ben Arm..

Those QB's are a bit taller too and probably have bigger hands. If you have a pro arm with big hands, they can really zip those balls down the field.

You don't see the flea flickers because he can pick apart any defense even if they drop 8 men in coverage.

He has underthrown TO two maybe three times this year. And that's usually the result of extremely bad mechanics (e.g., the Gurode snap over the head play).

 

[superpunk]

50 yards isnt a long way by Pro standards..

You dont see the Flea Flickers as much because he doesnt have the arm and will under throw the WR's. Dont know how many times this years he has underthrown T.O. His game is the intermediate routes with touch and accuracy. I wouldn't confuse him by any stretch of the imagination with a Palmer or Ben Arm..

Those QB's are a bit taller too and probably have bigger hands. If you have a pro arm with big hands, they can really zip those balls down the field.

The point is that is as far as you'll ever need to throw it in the NFL.

Kyle Boller can throw the ball 70 yards. Whoop-dee-doo. He'll never need to. There will never, ever be an instance where he has an opportunity to throw the ball that long for a completion. Receivers can't run that far, that fast before you'll get your butt sacked.

 

[zrinkill]

50 yards isnt a long way by Pro standards..

You dont see the Flea Flickers as much because he doesnt have the arm and will under throw the WR's. Dont know how many times this years he has underthrown T.O. His game is the intermediate routes with touch and accuracy. I wouldn't confuse him by any stretch of the imagination with a Palmer or Ben Arm..

Those QB's are a bit taller too and probably have bigger hands. If you have a pro arm with big hands, they can really zip those balls down the field.

What a surprise that you do not think so.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Glad to see Norm's book get a plug. It's supposed to be excellent.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Would be good for a poster that has some experience and knowledge about Arm Strength to come in here and weigh in on Romo's Arm strength or lack thereof.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I see nothing wrong with 9's arm strength... He's got a nice arm.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

What a surprise that you do not think so.

I like what he does on and off the field believe me... I just still have some man love

 

[BigBlacKahuna]

It's been a long time since I could say this, but there's no other QB in the NFL who I'd want over the one we have.

 

[FLcowboy]

My opinion on it is this ....

Brady and Manning are great ..... but neither is gonna get any better at this point in their career.

Romo is already in their league and he still has growth potential.

I would take no one over Romo at this point.

I have to agree with the above quote. Manning and Brady, and Manning especially, have a tick or two burrowing in their resume, while Romo is making all the same plays they are, and has the potential to overcome his flaws.

Manning gets a little excited sometimes, and can throw some pretty ugly passes. Manning has had some great receivers for backups also, while Romo has had to play this year without his #1b receiver. We can't fault Crayton, Hurd, Fasano, or Curtis for stepping up this year, but just think how this offense would have scored with Glenn. Where does Reggie Wayne stack up in this league? He has to be pretty high.

 

[percyhoward]

So, in the mind of Peter King (should I even continue, after starting with that?) in less than 3 months, Romo has risen from the league's 18th best QB to the 3rd best.

 

[theogt]

So, in the mind of Peter King (should I even continue, after starting with that?) in less than 3 months, Romo has risen from the league's 18th best QB to the 3rd best.

LOL.

If anyone needs a laugh, just check out this thread:

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93706&highlight=king

Jones passed on J.P. Losman in the 2004 draft, passed on Jason Campbell in the 2005 draft, now has passed on Quinn in the 2007 draft. Romo's 2006 performance gave new meaning to "flash in the pan." Taking over from Drew Bledsoe at midseason, Romo won five of his first six starts, and based on just six outings, was named to the Pro Bowl -- whose balloting ridiculously closes with the season still in progress. Romo proceeded to lose four of his final five starts, including Dallas' playoff game, in the process often looking terrible behind center. Was his early success beginner's luck? Yet Jones decided his quarterbacking was set, and traded to Cleveland the pick that could have brought Quinn to the Cowboys.

During free agency Jones gave a huge stack of bills -- about $19 million guaranteed -- to Leonard Davis, who might be a giant but has always played like a man of average size. Don't marry them thinking you are going to change them! The likelihood is Davis won't suddenly become the dominant performer he has never been until this point. There's a greater chance that, having signed his monster contract, Davis will celebrate by taking 2007 off. During free agency, offensive linemen Kris Dielman, Derrick Dockery and Eric Steinbach also signed deals with huge guarantees, and none has made the Pro Bowl -- but unlike Davis, all played really well in the past two seasons. Dielman, Dockery or Steinbach might have gone to the Pro Bowl, were Honolulu invitations for offensive linemen not based solely on rep. All three performed better in 2006 than guard Larry Allen, who went to the Pro Bowl solely on rep. That guards, tackles and centers make the Pro Bowl based on rep, not performance, shows that not even other NFL players really pay attention to who the good offensive linemen are. Anyway, four megadeals went to offensive linemen during this free-agency period, and Dallas might be left holding the least cost-effective of the group.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by Peter King
Jones passed on J.P. Losman in the 2004 draft, passed on Jason Campbell in the 2005 draft, now has passed on Quinn in the 2007 draft. Romo's 2006 performance gave new meaning to "flash in the pan." Taking over from Drew Bledsoe at midseason, Romo won five of his first six starts, and based on just six outings, was named to the Pro Bowl -- whose balloting ridiculously closes with the season still in progress. Romo proceeded to lose four of his final five starts, including Dallas' playoff game, in the process often looking terrible behind center. Was his early success beginner's luck? Yet Jones decided his quarterbacking was set, and traded to Cleveland the pick that could have brought Quinn to the Cowboys.

During free agency Jones gave a huge stack of bills -- about $19 million guaranteed -- to Leonard Davis, who might be a giant but has always played like a man of average size. Don't marry them thinking you are going to change them! The likelihood is Davis won't suddenly become the dominant performer he has never been until this point. There's a greater chance that, having signed his monster contract, Davis will celebrate by taking 2007 off. During free agency, offensive linemen Kris Dielman, Derrick Dockery and Eric Steinbach also signed deals with huge guarantees, and none has made the Pro Bowl -- but unlike Davis, all played really well in the past two seasons. Dielman, Dockery or Steinbach might have gone to the Pro Bowl, were Honolulu invitations for offensive linemen not based solely on rep. All three performed better in 2006 than guard Larry Allen, who went to the Pro Bowl solely on rep. That guards, tackles and centers make the Pro Bowl based on rep, not performance, shows that not even other NFL players really pay attention to who the good offensive linemen are. Anyway, four megadeals went to offensive linemen during this free-agency period, and Dallas might be left holding the least cost-effective of the group.

Maybe you should stick to Mary Beth's field hockey and Starbucks, Pete.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Which is worse, Peter King or Skip Bayless?

 

[Nors]

I didn't see this posted already. If it is, Mods please merge.

Peter King says this about Romo in his MMQB piece:

"5. I think the only quarterbacks, long-term, I'd take over Romo right now are Brady and Peyton Manning. Romo doesn't have the deep arm of Carson Palmer or Roethlisberger, but he has the improvisational ability equal to, or better than, anyone beyond the top two."

Here's the linky:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/12/02/week13/6.html

He has better improvising than Brady or Manning. Manning just gets it out fast and is a classivc pocket passer. Brady moves great in pocket but also releases fast and rarely improvises and runs to pass like Romo does

 

[AsthmaField]

He has better improvising than Brady or Manning. Manning just gets it out fast and is a classivc pocket passer. Brady moves great in pocket but also releases fast and rarely improvises and runs to pass like Romo does

You're right, he does improvise better than either of the "top" two.

Of course that doesn't mean he's a better QB, although I'd want to keep Tony... but he does improvise better than any other QB in the NFL.

I think media guys... particularly national guys like King... are afraid to say that Romo is better than either Manning or Brady because they don't feel like he's earned it yet.

That'll change by next year, I bet.

 

[percyhoward]

Lest we forget...

HOF Selection Committee ("at large" members)
Howard Balzer, The Sports Xchange
Jarrett Bell, USA Today
John Clayton, ESPN/ESPN Magazine
John Czarnecki, FoxSports.com
Nancy Gay, San Francisco Chronicle
Dave Goldberg, Associated Press
Peter King, Sports Illustrated
Bob Oates, Los Angeles Times
Len Shapiro, Miami Herald
Vito Stellino, Florida Times Union
Jim Trotter, Sports Illustrated

 

[Bob Sacamano]

50 yards isnt a long way by Pro standards..

You dont see the Flea Flickers as much because he doesnt have the arm and will under throw the WR's. Dont know how many times this years he has underthrown T.O. His game is the intermediate routes with touch and accuracy. I wouldn't confuse him by any stretch of the imagination with a Palmer or Ben Arm..

Those QB's are a bit taller too and probably have bigger hands. If you have a pro arm with big hands, they can really zip those balls down the field.

you don't see the flea-flicker because we don't need to use it, our passing game is potent enough as it is, a flea-flicker is a trick play you use to pull one over the opposing D because your offense sucks

 

[sonnyboy]

Can you guys ever remember a time you felt this confident we can convert almost any 3rd down? 3rd and 9,11,13, doesnt matter.
I just believe Romo will make it happen.

I've been saying it for over a year now, Romo is the next Montana.