Sick of the Silly Dak or Romo discussion

Chuck 54

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Most of the debate regarding whom will they start is just misplaced worry.

Tony Romo isn't going to start after the bye vs. Philly just because he's healthy.

First he has to be declared healthy to practice and play; that hasn't even happened yet.
After he's cleared medically, the coaches are not going to just automatically name him the starter the first Sunday after being cleared to play like they have in the past with lousy backups. Tony will work his way back on the sideline, then into practice reps. The coaches are going to start the QB they believe gives them the best chance to win games, paired with the consideration of who will give them the best chance in the playoffs.

If Tony has rust to knock off...if his passes are floating or sailing or not as accurate as when he's in a groove, they won't name his the starter just because he's 100% healthy. As long as Dak continues to shine and win games, even if we lose a game, he will continue to start until that week or weeks at practice when suddenly Tony is just as sharp or sharper, when Tony sees things and changes plays perfectly. When Tony starts outperforming Dak in practice or at least matches everything Dak is doing, only then will coaches even consider starting Tony Romo.

And frankly, despite his great decisions and winning and leadership, if a time comes when Tony is sharper in practice than Dak, then of course you start him simply because there's nothing in the NFL that he hasn't seen, and if he's at his best, he's the QB you want when things speed up and defenses get better and more creative and offenses are exposing your defense.

Romo at his best is the better option for December and the playoffs. But I have no doubt that he will remain on the bench until he's looking better than Dak in practice. A clear MRI and a doctor's note won't push him into the starting lineup when the team is performing so well with Dak; getting up to speed and looking like the old Romo and franchise QB for the Cowboys (if he reaches that point) will.
 

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They have another 2 weeks before they need to decide. For all we know tony is doing all he needs to do right now behind the closed doors of the Star...no one is allowed in, except the players. and they are not going to let on to the media.
They play this week, have a week off, then tony may then take half the 1st team snaps in practice, if not all. Then be ready to play the Philly game.
All we will get for the the 3 weeks up to game time is that he is day to day....I would bet the house on it....

Dak has yet to still take long shots down the field. And we are ok with that, it is working. But we will come up against an offense that will put points on the board. So when we need to down field throws late in a game, who do we know that will and can do that...Tony....as we have yet to see Dak do this. Game plan, still learning, yes, but we will need that at some point.
In the Bengals game, up by 28 or even up at 21, that was the perfect time to see what he can do, take the long shot, put the game away for sure. But they didn't.
with tony on a few of those 3rd down plays, they would have.

I am taking nothing away from Dak. But we stand a better chance of putting up more points and doing it quicker than we do right now. At least to as the way the plays have been called.
 

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Sick of the debate and then goes on to debate...o_O
Sorry, but this was not a debate. Did you actually read it or just look for quick quip?

I tried to explain why there is no debate. Most fans and media types are going by how Dak has performed vs. the idea that when healthy, Romo might be named the starter even if he's not the best answer. My point is that Tony won't be named the starter vs. Philly just because he's healthy. He won't be named the starter until his practice performance warrants it.

That's not debating the same silly argument; that's framing it as a coaching decision in the best interest of the team.

However, you did get to use emoticons; so that's something, I guess.
 

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Sorry, but this was not a debate. Did you actually read it or just look for quick quip?

I tried to explain why there is no debate. Most fans and media types are going by how Dak has performed vs. the idea that when healthy, Romo might be named the starter even if he's not the best answer. My point is that Tony won't be named the starter vs. Philly just because he's healthy. He won't be named the starter until his practice performance warrants it.

That's not debating the same silly argument; that's framing it as a coaching decision in the best interest of the team.

However, you did get to use emoticons; so that's something, I guess.

Hot take, bro. His heath = practice performance.
 

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All I know is Dak will handle it better than some posters on here if he has to sit upon Romo's return.
 

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Most of the debate regarding whom will they start is just misplaced worry.

Tony Romo isn't going to start after the bye vs. Philly just because he's healthy.

First he has to be declared healthy to practice and play; that hasn't even happened yet.
After he's cleared medically, the coaches are not going to just automatically name him the starter the first Sunday after being cleared to play like they have in the past with lousy backups. Tony will work his way back on the sideline, then into practice reps. The coaches are going to start the QB they believe gives them the best chance to win games, paired with the consideration of who will give them the best chance in the playoffs.

If Tony has rust to knock off...if his passes are floating or sailing or not as accurate as when he's in a groove, they won't name his the starter just because he's 100% healthy. As long as Dak continues to shine and win games, even if we lose a game, he will continue to start until that week or weeks at practice when suddenly Tony is just as sharp or sharper, when Tony sees things and changes plays perfectly. When Tony starts outperforming Dak in practice or at least matches everything Dak is doing, only then will coaches even consider starting Tony Romo.

And frankly, despite his great decisions and winning and leadership, if a time comes when Tony is sharper in practice than Dak, then of course you start him simply because there's nothing in the NFL that he hasn't seen, and if he's at his best, he's the QB you want when things speed up and defenses get better and more creative and offenses are exposing your defense.

Romo at his best is the better option for December and the playoffs. But I have no doubt that he will remain on the bench until he's looking better than Dak in practice. A clear MRI and a doctor's note won't push him into the starting lineup when the team is performing so well with Dak; getting up to speed and looking like the old Romo and franchise QB for the Cowboys (if he reaches that point) will.
Hard to argue with your points so not really here to refute...but I do want to offer perspective as to why I am excited over the whole debate. And it's a lesson in Cowboys history. Bear with me as this is totally based on memory. As I think back at our past championship/championship level runs, I think it's an accurate assertion that every single one of them was preceded by a serious QB controversy. Staubach vs Morton. Aikman vs Walsh (although this one wasn't so intense it was still a fairly big debate until Jimmy traded Steve). Bledsoe vs. Romo. QB controversies are a big part of Cowboy lore. They have been a key factor on what makes this team fun. Sure there have been some lame ones like Carter vs. Hutchinson vs. hensen. But several of those past controversies have ultimately paved the way to our runs at greatness. At minimum, they ushered in or prompted a turning point where we went from bad to good or good to great.

So I would offer up: don't shun it. Welcome it! If past is prologue then you should be as excited as I am over what's coming over the horizon!!!:)
 

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Most of the debate regarding whom will they start is just misplaced worry.

Tony Romo isn't going to start after the bye vs. Philly just because he's healthy.

First he has to be declared healthy to practice and play; that hasn't even happened yet.
After he's cleared medically, the coaches are not going to just automatically name him the starter the first Sunday after being cleared to play like they have in the past with lousy backups. Tony will work his way back on the sideline, then into practice reps. The coaches are going to start the QB they believe gives them the best chance to win games, paired with the consideration of who will give them the best chance in the playoffs.

If Tony has rust to knock off...if his passes are floating or sailing or not as accurate as when he's in a groove, they won't name his the starter just because he's 100% healthy. As long as Dak continues to shine and win games, even if we lose a game, he will continue to start until that week or weeks at practice when suddenly Tony is just as sharp or sharper, when Tony sees things and changes plays perfectly. When Tony starts outperforming Dak in practice or at least matches everything Dak is doing, only then will coaches even consider starting Tony Romo.

And frankly, despite his great decisions and winning and leadership, if a time comes when Tony is sharper in practice than Dak, then of course you start him simply because there's nothing in the NFL that he hasn't seen, and if he's at his best, he's the QB you want when things speed up and defenses get better and more creative and offenses are exposing your defense.

Romo at his best is the better option for December and the playoffs. But I have no doubt that he will remain on the bench until he's looking better than Dak in practice. A clear MRI and a doctor's note won't push him into the starting lineup when the team is performing so well with Dak; getting up to speed and looking like the old Romo and franchise QB for the Cowboys (if he reaches that point) will.
:clap: Great job! This is sound and logical as opposed to "Enjoy Dak's last start this week guys. No matter what he does... ROMO TIME BABY!!" What makes this interesting is at the point where you feel like we even consider Romo, Dak's imprint and (assumed) ascension will only be that much stronger. Will be tough to start Romo in weeks 10-12 but a lot remains to be seen. Dak has infused this entire team with his confidence. That's what's so exciting. For years we were doomed without the oft-injured Tony Romo. So in addition to Dak's excellent poise and play.. just the fact that we're more flexible, versatile and less dependent on a few guys in-itself is an added boost.
 

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All I know is Dak will handle it better than some posters on here if he has to sit upon Romo's return.

I think he will too but it will be harder for him to sit now that he has a taste than it would have been had he not.
 

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I said it before.

I don't care if Skip Bayless QBs us to super bowl.

Romo deserves that "shot"
I just want #6


Dak can get us #7
 
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