Since 2016, in the 4th Quarter: Dak has 14 GW Drives, most in NFL

[Roadtrip635]

That would be better. Let's stop forcing our QB to have to lead game-winning drives. Some other teams make it easier on their QB by actually establishing leads and holding on to them.

Of course, this is nothing different than we saw with this team with Romo at QB, the need for comebacks because our defense blew a lead. Hopefully, we're getting the defense to the point where that won't be the case and it will simply be up to the offense to give it a lead to protect.

That's also been a part of the team philosophy before Dak came along. Ball control, keep the scores close, don't make mistakes, run the clock, which keeps games closer. Even when we were leading in some games, we played conservative football, which keeps the door open for another team to make a comeback.

 

[G2]

That's also been a part of the team philosophy before Dak came along. Ball control, keep the scores close, don't make mistakes, run the clock, which keeps games closer. Even when we were leading in some games, we played conservative football, which keeps the door open for another team to make a comeback.

Not really, especially when JG was OC. The offense was known for having early leads.

 

[Hardline]

This is the NFL. Get used to it. It's going to happen all the time.

Only Brady has more 4th quarter comeback wins than Dak.

The odds are you will lose if you are losing going into the 4th quarter.
It's best not to put yourself in that position.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Its only because he has sucked so bad in the first 3 that he had to do all those comeback. LOL

 

[Roadtrip635]

I swear Im not a Dak bashing person who will spin everything against him, but he has been really consistent at an inability to get early leads. Most of his 4th quarter game winning drives is because he was awful in quarters 1 - 3 at least in the red zone. He needs to up his early game.

Some of that is based on the coaching. Romo had quite a few GWDs also, his ratings late in games were much better than early in games. There were a lot of games we sputtered on offense too and it wasn't until Romo went into his backyard, draw up plays in the dirt mode to mount those comebacks. We'd start games in that typical conservative Garrett mode, then we'd sputter and finally open up the game and we'd all wonder where that was all game. I remember too many times, during the Romo years yelling out "Why the *bleep* weren't we doing that before!?!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That means the Cowboys were losing in the 4th quarter 14 times,
I would rather Dak have zero game winning drives in the 4th quarter.

The Pats don't even have zero game winning drives in the 4th. You aren't going to be winning going into the 4th quarter every game.

 

[percyhoward]

That means the Cowboys were losing in the 4th quarter 14 times,
I would rather Dak have zero game winning drives in the 4th quarter.

I'd rather win the game, regardless of 3rd-quarter score, but that's just me.

 

[Hardline]

The Pats don't even have zero game winning drives in the 4th. You aren't going to be winning going into the 4th quarter every game.

I didn't say they would. What I said was pretty self explanatory.

 

[percyhoward]

Second, how high is other QBs' rating in the fourth quarter? Because not all QBs get the same amount of GW opportunities, QB rating in the quarter can be a measure for how well they play when the game's on the line, even if they are ahead.

Right, "late & close" is how they play when the game is close in the 4th, whether leading, tied, or trailing.

4th qtr/OT
margin 8 points or less
2018
1 Ryan 123.4
2 Wentz 116.9
3 Mahomes 112.3
4 Brady 109.2
5 Prescott 109.1

2017-18
1 Prescott 112.6
2 Wilson 112.3
3 Ryan 108.5
4 Watson 107.0
5 Luck 106.8

2016-18
1 Wilson 111.2
2 Brady 110.4
3 Prescott 108.3
4 Roethlisberger 108.3
5 Ryan 106.8

 

[percyhoward]

You do realize that most every game is decided in the 4th quarter?

all 2018 games
margin after 3 quarters
8 points or less
393 (74%)

more than 8 points
141 (26%)

 

[percyhoward]

1ST-3RD QUARTER ONLY
2018
Prescott (7 games w/o Cooper)
83 of 132 62.9% 913 yd 6.9 ypa 7 td 3 int 91.5
Prescott (11 games w/Cooper)
202 of 286 70.6% 2115 yd 7.4 ypa 11 td 3 int 100.2
Wentz (all 11 games)
202 of 290 69.7% 2327 yd 8.0 ypa 14 td 5 int 102.5

2017-18
Prescott
504 of 770 65.5% 5213 yd 6.8 ypa 31 td 13 int 91.2
Wentz
415 of 644 64.4% 5018 yd 7.8 ypa 42 td 10 int 103.5

2016-18
Prescott
750 of 1136 66.0% 8191 yd 7.2 ypa 48 td 18 int 94.6
Wentz
683 of 1064 64.2% 7772 yd 7.3 ypa 57 td 21 int 95.6

 

[percyhoward]

This is nothing different than we saw with this team with Romo at QB, the need for comebacks because our defense blew a lead. Hopefully, we're getting the defense to the point where that won't be the case and it will simply be up to the offense to give it a lead to protect.

DALLAS OFFENSE
Percentage of drives ending in TD (NFL rank)
Drive ended in 1st-3rd qtr
18.5% (24th)
Drive ended in 4th qtr/OT
33.3% (4th)

DALLAS DEFENSE
Percentage of OPPONENTS' drives ending in TD (NFL rank)
Drive ended in 1st-3rd qtr
17.6% (4th)
Drive ended in 4th qtr/OT
31.4% (28th)

 

[cowboyec]

DAK
'MERICA'S QB

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

LLLOOOLLL, you know it's coming so might as well get my laugh on.

 

[GMO415]

 

[cowboy_ron]

No way..................it HAS to be the mighty Wince.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I didn't say they would. What I said was pretty self explanatory.

You said you would rather have Dak have zero game winning drives which makes no sense at all lol.

 

[Hardline]

You said you would rather have Dak have zero game winning drives which makes no sense at all lol.

It makes perfect sense. It literally means it would rather have zero game winning drives in the 4th quarter because I would rather not be losing going into the 4th quarter.

 

[HungryLion]

That means the Cowboys were losing in the 4th quarter 14 times,
I would rather Dak have zero game winning drives in the 4th quarter.

 

[lwehlers]

dak would not have that many fourth quarter comebacks had he not gotten off to a lot of slow starts that he has had. he needs to come out at the start of games better this year if this team is going to take the next step. the cowboys schedule is not real easy this year we have some teams this year can put up points and with him starting out slow like he does sometimes that will make it harder for this team two win ten or more games this coming season.