Since NFL network has Luck in the top tier above Romo, a comparison!

[AKATheRake]

It's more likely that the offense would morph back into the Chuck-ball show starring Andrew Luck. You keep Luck and give me balance that can be relied upon week after week, not outrageous passing attempts that you won't always get away with. Do any of the so called elite quarterbacks have potent, committed running games? I don't think any of them do because when the going gets tough, the arm starts ambulating...and as many times as is necessary to get the win...or facilitate the loss. YR said something chilling about the elite guys...namely, how they would prefer to have more receiving options, then a good offensive line or running game...just more options, that they may or may not have time to find...call it hero-ball, or whatever.

I said we didn't need Luck. I said he's the better QB than Romo. I prefer the ballance also.

Not necessarily would it go to just passing all the time. We have a gun slinger QB, but we're sticking with what the OC calls and he wants to run the ball. The HC wants us to run the ball.

The defense relies on us running the ball.

 

[AKATheRake]

Luck can do no wrong it seems. He can lead the league in picks and still be called an elite qb.

As of today Andrew Luck's season looks like this:

- 22 Pass and 2 rushing TD's, 9 INT's, 2 Lost fumbles, 2,731 passing yards, 124 rushing yards after 8 games.
- Leading their division at 5-3
- 2nd best scoring offense in the league, #1 yardage offense and #1 passing offense in the league

- Been to the playoffs every year in the league and looks like that will continue. He was picked #1 overall because the team he plays for had the worst record in the league the year prior and the kid took them to the playoffs the same year he was drafted. His HC had to take a back seat to cancer that season and the kid and Arians still got the team to the tournament.

As far as the numbers and the facts go Andrew Luck has done much more right than wrong. He's got much better than a 2-1 TD to interception ratio and is moving the ball dramatically. The Colts as of today have the 4th most rushing attempts and are medicore running the ball because their o-line stinks. Not 1 player on that line would you send to a pro bowl.

I don't know what more can a 3rd year QB be expected to do and I don't know where Romo has ever had a better season that the year Andrew Luck is on pace to have?

Andrew Luck is outright an elite QB.

 

[kramskoi]

I said we didn't need Luck. I said he's the better QB than Romo. I prefer the ballance also.

Not necessarily would it go to just passing all the time. We have a gun slinger QB, but we're sticking with what the OC calls and he wants to run the ball. The HC wants us to run the ball.

The defense relies on us running the ball.

Gotcha! *wink...like Irvin use to say..."WE BETTER RUN ALL DAY!!!"

 

[ConstantReboot]

Romo is playing very well and making the big plays when we need him to. Absolutely!

But Romo clearly has a more dominant supporting cast and better overall team system being utilized around him.

I'm not taking anything away from Romo. He deserves a solid overall unit around him for once and for all to truly show the player he is. We don't need Luck, we got enough if we get a stud at DE. But if Andrew Luck played for this team? Within this offense?

It would be outright ridiculous. Beyond imagination my fellow Cowboys and Romo supporter.

We're talking Bugatti vs Porsche. I wish I owned a Porsche (it's possible I can have one) but a Bugatti is highly unlikely in this lifetime.

Lol I really feel sorry for Romo. When he didn't have a supporting cast everyone is on his case.

Now that he has everyone says he's still not that good. Man, Tony just does not get enough respect around here.

 

[AKATheRake]

It's more likely that the offense would morph back into the Chuck-ball show starring Andrew Luck. You keep Luck and give me balance that can be relied upon week after week, not outrageous passing attempts that you won't always get away with. Do any of the so called elite quarterbacks have potent, committed running games? I don't think any of them do because when the going gets tough, the arm starts ambulating...and as many times as is necessary to get the win...or facilitate the loss. YR said something chilling about the elite guys...namely, how they would prefer to have more receiving options, then a good offensive line or running game...just more options, that they may or may not have time to find...call it hero-ball, or whatever.

Just so you know, the Indianapolis Colts are ranked 4th in rushing attempts and currently rank 13th at rushing yards per a game. They want balance and to be able to run the ball, they're just mediocre at it because their o-line is inferior. Luck is 1 of the more mobile QB's in the league but remains a top notch pocket passer.

They're also the #1 yardage offense, #1 passing offense and #2 scoring offense as of right now.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingAttempts

This all happens because of what? Their WR's, running backs or o-line? No! Oh yah they got this awesome OC who they took from the college ranks. No! It's Andrew Luck.......

I'm sure you know that Luck has brought his team to the playoffs every year since he's been in the NFL and currently has a winning record.

 

[AKATheRake]

Lol I really feel sorry for Romo. When he didn't have a supporting cast everyone is on his case.

Now that he has everyone says he's still not that good. Man, Tony just does not get enough respect around here.

Who said he's not good?

The guy is having a pro bowl level season and I voted for him.

People are just trying to say that Andrew Luck is not an elite QB and that Romo is the better QB right now.

Other than Peyton Manning or maybe Aaron Rodgers who is having a better season than Luck?

He's accounted for over 24 total TD's and 9 INT's. 2 lost fumbles as well. The guys got to score points like no other to win games. Look at today's game against the Steelers.

QB rating is not everything. Its the impact that player has on that whole game and the chances of helping their team win. Andrew Luck is that whole team, maybe even more so than the years Romo had to struggle with over rated talent around him.

 

[ConstantReboot]

As of today Andrew Luck's season looks like this:

- 22 Pass and 2 rushing TD's, 9 INT's, 2 Lost fumbles, 2,731 passing yards, 124 rushing yards after 8 games.
- Leading their division at 5-3
- 2nd best scoring offense in the league, #1 yardage offense and #1 passing offense in the league

- Been to the playoffs every year in the league and looks like that will continue. He was picked #1 overall because the team he plays for had the worst record in the league the year prior and the kid took them to the playoffs the same year he was drafted. His HC had to take a back seat to cancer that season and the kid and Arians still got the team to the tournament.

As far as the numbers and the facts go Andrew Luck has done much more right than wrong. He's got much better than a 2-1 TD to interception ratio and is moving the ball dramatically. The Colts as of today have the 4th most rushing attempts and are medicore running the ball because their o-line stinks. Not 1 player on that line would you send to a pro bowl.

I don't know what more can a 3rd year QB be expected to do and I don't know where Romo has ever had a better season that the year Andrew Luck is on pace to have?

Andrew Luck is outright an elite QB.

Maybe you should go cheer for Luck.

Consider me unimpressed. They play in a crappy division that's easy to run the score on. Secondly, he has a pretty good supporting cast.

I'll stick with Romo.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Who said he's not good?

The guy is having a pro bowl level season and I voted for him.

People are just trying to say that Andrew Luck is not an elite QB and that Romo is the better QB right now.

Other than Peyton Manning or maybe Aaron Rodgers who is having a better season than Luck?

He's accounted for over 24 total TD's and 9 INT's. 2 lost fumbles as well. The guys got to score points like no other to win games. Look at today's game against the Steelers.

QB rating is not everything. Its the impact that player has on that whole game and the chances of helping their team win. Andrew Luck is that whole team, maybe even more so than the years Romo had to struggle with over rated talent around him.

I think he's elite. Never said he wasn't. But I don't see the undaunted love people have for him. I bet if he had no oline, no running game, no defense, he'll have the same issues that romo had before.

I think he's elite. But so is romo. Right now I'd take romo.

 

[AKATheRake]

Maybe you should go cheer for Luck.

Consider me unimpressed. They play in a crappy division that's easy to run the score on. Secondly, he has a pretty good supporting cast.

I'll stick with Romo.

I cheer for Romo first but I'm also objective.

Just because I'm a Cowboy fan doesn't mean I need to tell myself Romo is better when he is not.

But I am very happy to have Romo because he is a hell of a quarterback and has made the big plays this year when we needed him to. We don't need Luck and I don't need to cheer for him or Indy because I think he is more talented than Romo. That's hilarious.

What's so good about Luck's supporting cast? T.Y Hilton is a good player but Luck has nothing to do with that?

What o-lineman of his would you send to the pro bowl this year. We have 4 guys out of 5 that deserve to be in that conversation. A top 3 WR, the leading rusher in the league and a future HOF TE on this team. Not to mention one of the better OC in the league.

You're going to compare supporting casts now? Unreal.

Didn't we sqweek by Houston?

This would never happen but if we had a chance Tony Romo without taking the salary cap hit, there's no way we don't take Andrew Luck.

The best part is, Romo makes so much more than Luck to boot. Luck is more talnted than Romo who is 1 of the best QB's in the league as it is.

If Peyton Manning wasn't so smart Luck would be better than him right now. Luck and Rodgers are just under Manning. Brady, Rivers, Romo and Brees are just under Luck and Rodgers. It is what it is.

 

[AKATheRake]

I think he's elite. Never said he wasn't. But I don't see the undaunted love people have for him. I bet if he had no oline, no running game, no defense, he'll have the same issues that romo had before.

I think he's elite. But so is romo. Right now I'd take romo.

Luck does not have the o-line, he doesn't have a great running game and that Colts defense that just gave up 51 points to the Steelers? Well they're at best middle of the pack and that's cause their top rated offense keeps them off the field just like our offense does.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/profile?team=IND

The difference is we have a balanced well rounded offense and the Colts want to be balanced but can't be. They have Luck.

Look Romo has always been and is still very good. He's got a better team around him and it helps his season, the teams season. He himself has said so after a few games now.

I'm not taking anything away from Romo, he's the guy I got on my jersey. He's the guy I voted to go to the pro bowl.

But you can't just say Andrew Luck is not deserving of what's being said and that Romo is outright the better QB to keep. We're lucky to have #9 and we would never have a shot at Luck whether you want to or not. Cap reason's and Luck is who most teams would build around.

Luck is currently playing on a team like Romo used to play on and they look better than we did. In fact he's played on even worse teams and still got the Colts to the playoffs.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I cheer for Romo first but I'm also objective.

Just because I'm a Cowboy fan doesn't mean I need to tell myself Romo is better when he is not.

But I am very happy to have Romo because he is a hell of a quarterback and has made the big plays this year when we needed him to. We don't need Luck and I don't need to cheer for him or Indy because I think he is more talented than Romo. That's hilarious.

What's so good about Luck's supporting cast? T.Y Hilton is a good player but Luck has nothing to do with that?

What o-lineman of his would you send to the pro bowl this year. We have 4 guys out of 5 that deserve to be in that conversation. A top 3 WR, the leading rusher in the league and a future HOF TE on this team. Not to mention one of the better OC in the league.

You're going to compare supporting casts now? Unreal.

Didn't we sqweek by Houston?

This would never happen but if we had a chance Tony Romo without taking the salary cap hit, there's no way we don't take Andrew Luck.

The best part is, Romo makes so much more than Luck to boot. Luck is more talnted than Romo who is 1 of the best QB's in the league as it is.

If Peyton Manning wasn't so smart Luck would be better than him right now. Luck and Rodgers are just under Manning. Brady, Rivers, Romo and Brees are just under Luck and Rodgers. It is what it is.

Sorry but Im still unimpressed. Luck I think its elite. But he's not that amazing. Romo is clutch with his elusiveness and makes those big plays. Did you already forget what he did to Watt or that 3rd and 20 play in Seattle? Those plays amazed me. Thats Romo. I don't see Luck making those kind of magical throws when you need it the most. Sure Luck has done great things in his own way. But Romo is that uncanny ability to elude rushers that no QB can. Is it no wonder that Romo has been one of the top QBs in the league in coming from behind in the 4th? Sorry but Romo impresses me more.

I also want to point out that Romo has carried this team for a long time. He never really had a supporting cast. Do you remember how bad he had it when Costa was at center? He also never had a running game until now. Oh don't even bring up the defense we had last year and the year before that. Romo had a terrible supporting cast and yet he put up some pretty impressive numbers.

Right now Romo is playing better and the stats prove it. Sure he's throwing ton of yards like he used to before. But he's converting an insane almost 70% completion rate on 3rd down. Which means that if need be Romo can carry this team. He has done so in the past before. Now that he has a supporting cast his playing lights out.

I think Romo is top 3. I think Luck is top 5. Im going by what I've seen so far and by the stats. They are both elite QB and rightfully so. But to say Luck is so amazing that he's setting the world on fire. I just don't think thats true and that Romo is up to par and even better this year.

 

[kramskoi]

As of today Andrew Luck's season looks like this:

- 22 Pass and 2 rushing TD's, 9 INT's, 2 Lost fumbles, 2,731 passing yards, 124 rushing yards after 8 games.
- Leading their division at 5-3
- 2nd best scoring offense in the league, #1 yardage offense and #1 passing offense in the league

- Been to the playoffs every year in the league and looks like that will continue. He was picked #1 overall because the team he plays for had the worst record in the league the year prior and the kid took them to the playoffs the same year he was drafted. His HC had to take a back seat to cancer that season and the kid and Arians still got the team to the tournament.

As far as the numbers and the facts go Andrew Luck has done much more right than wrong. He's got much better than a 2-1 TD to interception ratio and is moving the ball dramatically. The Colts as of today have the 4th most rushing attempts and are medicore running the ball because their o-line stinks. Not 1 player on that line would you send to a pro bowl.

I don't know what more can a 3rd year QB be expected to do and I don't know where Romo has ever had a better season that the year Andrew Luck is on pace to have?

Andrew Luck is outright an elite QB.

Then I guess that makes Romo one outright?

FootballOutsiders....Dallas offense rank 3rd, Indy rank 8th...Aikman ratings...Dallas 3rd....Indy 8th...NFL yardage: Indy 1st...Dallas 3rd...

Romo is moving the ball a tad more dramatically than Luck at 8.4 y/att versus 7.9.


Years with >30 TD passes:

Romo: '07 [36], '11 [31] '13 [31]

Luck : NONE


Years with passer rating below 90:

Romo: None

Luck: '12 [76.5], '13 [87]


Years with yards/att greater than 8:

Romo: '06 [8.6], '07 [8.1], '09 [8.2], '11 [8.0], '14 [8.4]

Luck: None


4,000+ yard seasons:

Romo: 4

Luck: 1

Luck will certainly exceed Romo in yards and TD passes (and likely INT's as well) because he is averaging 43.9 att/game...more than Romo's heaviest season [2012], where he averaged 40.5 att/game and had the dismal passer rating to show for it in the end. Currently, Romo is at his lowest att/game as a full season starter (30.6).

Bradshaw has a 4.8 yd/att average as a rusher...they are team rushing at 4 yds/att...I would not classify that as pedestrian. They are simply putting the game more fully in the hands of Luck, evidenced by his average att/ per game [43.9]. Last year he averaged 37.1. They are clearly asking the guy to carry the team more than he did last year.

 

[muck4doo]

Then I guess that makes Romo one outright?

FootballOutsiders....Dallas offense rank 3rd, Indy rank 8th...Aikman ratings...Dallas 3rd....Indy 8th...NFL yardage: Indy 1st...Dallas 3rd...

Romo is moving the ball a tad more dramatically than Luck at 8.4 y/att versus 7.9.


Years with >30 TD passes:

Romo: '07 [36], '11 [31] '13 [31]

Luck : NONE


Years with passer rating below 90:

Romo: None

Luck: '12 [76.5], '13 [87]


Years with yards/att greater than 8:

Romo: '06 [8.6], '07 [8.1], '09 [8.2], '11 [8.0], '14 [8.4]

Luck: None


4,000+ yard seasons:

Romo: 4

Luck: 1

Luck will certainly exceed Romo in yards and TD passes (and likely INT's as well) because he is averaging 43.9 att/game...more than Romo's heaviest season [2012], where he averaged 40.5 att/game and had the dismal passer rating to show for it in the end. Currently, Romo is at his lowest att/game as a full season starter (30.6).

Bradshaw has a 4.8 yd/att average as a rusher...they are team rushing at 4 yds/att...I would not classify that as pedestrian. They are simply putting the game more fully in the hands of Luck, evidenced by his average att/ per game [43.9]. Last year he averaged 37.1. They are clearly asking the guy to carry the team more than he did last year.

Lists are generated by websites to attract attention. The best way to attract that attention is to make some decisions that you know will get under peoples skin, and draw more attention to the list. You are getting way too worked up about this.

 

[kramskoi]

Lists are generated by websites to attract attention. The best way to attract that attention is to make some decisions that you know will get under peoples skin, and draw more attention to the list. You are getting way too worked up about this.

Yep...It's coming into focus now...a colossal cascade of ego-boosting attention, regurgitating forth from a thread that means little to persons without faces. You overestimate your inferential faculties, and simultaneously underestimate your ability to proffer a specious assumption...but I won't let it get under my skin...it might cause too much attention...*wink

 

[muck4doo]

Yep...It's coming into focus now...a colossal cascade of ego-boosting attention, regurgitating forth from a thread that means little to persons without faces. You overestimate your inferential faculties, and simultaneously underestimate your ability to proffer a specious assumption...but I won't let it get under my skin...it might cause too much attention...*wink

Nah, you'll keep on whining about it.

 

[dstovall5]

Didn't people always excuse Romo for not having any help? Luck has been on an awful team his entire career and has carried them to the playoffs each time. Romo has a much better O-line, RB, WRs, TEs and O-coordinator, and Luck is still only 3 quarterback rating points behind him.

Romo still put up numbers and had this team competitive without "help", so I don't really see your point there. And the "help" most people were referring to was defense, not offense as with Romo we've always been great offensively. I also like how people are down playing Luck's weapons, when he has among the best receiving weapons in the league.

T.Y Hilton + R.Wayne + H. Nicks = D.Bryant + T.Williams + Harris/Beasley

I love Luck, especially a couple years from now, but right now Romo is the better QB. And also, if Luck played in Dallas y'all would be slamming him right now, he has 8 INTs and 6 TDs in 3 playoff games for a 70.0 QB Rating.

 

[cowboys2233]

Take all those stats and then take this stat

Andrew Luck 3rd season
Tony Romo 12th season

Give me luck every time.,

You people are crazy. Even when the numbers clearly show Romo is having the better season, you still stubbornly cling to the mediots' overhyping of Luck. Good job. What did Romo do in his FIRST full season as a starter? Oh, that's right, more than 4,200 yards and 36 touchdowns, which was second only to Tom Brady, 13 wins and the #1 seed in the NFC. What a slouch.

 

[AKATheRake]

You people are crazy. Even when the numbers clearly show Romo is having the better season, you still stubbornly cling to the mediots' overhyping of Luck. Good job. What did Romo do in his FIRST full season as a starter? Oh, that's right, more than 4,200 yards and 36 touchdowns, which was second only to Tom Brady, 13 wins and the #1 seed in the NFC. What a slouch.

You know that Romo was in the league for at least a couple of season's before he started right?

Nobody is saying Romo is a bad QB. I personally think Romo is 1 of the best but I don't see why posters here are deciding to undervalue Andrew Luck? The kid is on a totally different type of team and is clearly what they got making them win. Like Romo used to.

The media is not over hyping Andrew Luck. The guy has brought his team to the playoffs every year he's been in the league. They got him because they had the worst record in the league.

The guys on pace to throw for close to 5,500 yards and 45 TD's with 18 INT's in his 3rd season in the league.

That's not opinion, that's fact and would be 1 of the best historical seasons for a QB ever.

Poster's are waiting for the Steelers to hang 51 points on the Colts to start saying the guy is over hyped? Guess the kid needs to play defense also to prove he's not over hyped.

All I know is these are the facts offensively for the Indianapolis Colts.

They are #1 in yardage, #1 in passing, #2 in scoring, #13 in rushing yardage, #4 in rushing attempts and # 1 in total time of possession.

It's not their offensive line, their running backs or that they have a top 10 defense that's giving them those stats.

It's Andrew Luck moving the chains offensively and keeping his defense off the field that is doing that.

 

[foofighters]

Luck vs. Romo...tale of the tape 2014 [to date] situational...

Rating
1st half:

92.6 [Luck] .... 87.2

2nd half:

109.6 ....127.8 [Romo]

2 minutes left in half:

90.2 .... 109.7 [Romo]

1st quarter:

98.2 .... 109.9 [Romo]

2nd quarter:

86.1 [Luck] .... 68.8

3rd quarter:

110.6 .... 145.4 [Romo]

4th quarter:

108.6 .... 110.7 [Romo]

4th quarter with < 7point lead:

89.2 .... 104 [Romo]

1 - 10 yards:

81.4 ..... 88 [Romo]

11 - 20 yds:

111.5 [Luck] .... 104.3

21 - 30 yds:

80.5 .... 116.4 [Romo]

31 yds+:

121.8 .... 132.3 [Romo]

Road games:

97 .... 103.6 [Romo]

Home games:

104.7 ... 106.4 [Romo]

Season numbers to date:

Luck 19 TD....7 INT..2331 yds....100.5 rate
Romo 14 TD....6 INT...1789 yds...104.7 rate [3 picks in game one]

Inside the numbers, Romo is winning more than his share of these battles...that much should be pretty freakin' obvious.

I don't see how Luck is clearly superior to Romo...or FAR better as some in the thread have said. Looks like the opposite is true.

Luck is beating him in the second quarter, on throws between 11-20 yds and 1st half rating...not much else!

why do we care about meaningless stats? It's all about wins. Romo is doing just fine. Who cares where NFLN has anyone...

 

[perrykemp]

As of today Andrew Luck's season looks like this:

- 22 Pass and 2 rushing TD's, 9 INT's, 2 Lost fumbles, 2,731 passing yards, 124 rushing yards after 8 games.
- Leading their division at 5-3
- 2nd best scoring offense in the league, #1 yardage offense and #1 passing offense in the league

- Been to the playoffs every year in the league and looks like that will continue. He was picked #1 overall because the team he plays for had the worst record in the league the year prior and the kid took them to the playoffs the same year he was drafted. His HC had to take a back seat to cancer that season and the kid and Arians still got the team to the tournament.

As far as the numbers and the facts go Andrew Luck has done much more right than wrong. He's got much better than a 2-1 TD to interception ratio and is moving the ball dramatically. The Colts as of today have the 4th most rushing attempts and are medicore running the ball because their o-line stinks. Not 1 player on that line would you send to a pro bowl.

I don't know what more can a 3rd year QB be expected to do and I don't know where Romo has ever had a better season that the year Andrew Luck is on pace to have?

Andrew Luck is outright an elite QB.

This year is changing my perception of him. He is finally looking like he might be elite to me.

More than anything, his low completion percentage (58% for his career) and the high number of INTs made me wonder, however, his play has improved a LOT this year. His completion percentage is 65% this season and I suspect this is more the norm than the exception.