Six Teams that will give the Cowboys Trouble in 2005

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Sarge said:
Cowboys aren't good enough to look past ANYONE. Anyone on that schedule can beat the Cowboys.

They'll need to be ready each and every week.

Exactly. We're playing a lot of explosive offenses with a brand new defensive scheme and a lot of new players and a lot of old players who don't know the new scheme. Most of these teams also either made the playoffs last year or the year before.
 

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kartr said:
Exactly. We're playing a lot of explosive offenses with a brand new defensive scheme and a lot of new players and a lot of old players who don't know the new scheme. Most of these teams also either made the playoffs last year or the year before.


Really when i looked at the schedule we only play 5 teams that went to the playoffs. And There's not alot of teams that dont have explosive offensives, with JJin the backfield and guys like Glen Crayton and MOrgan(hopefully) we can strach the field passing to, so really once again your statment renders your argument pointless.
 

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Exactly. We're playing a lot of explosive offenses with a brand new defensive scheme and a lot of new players and a lot of old players who don't know the new scheme. Most of these teams also either made the playoffs last year or the year before.

Agreed. We may very well struggle defensively, early on with the new scheme. Very much a possibility. Thats is exactly the reason I don't get into the prediction threads.

There are way too many variables this year with this team.
 

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I watched the Jets all year last year, Jordan is no Hambrick wimp. He's a stud who can run and catch. When Martin was hurt he was very effective.

All last year?

I wonder why.

No, Lamont is no Hambrick "wimp" (tho that's hardly the word to describe T-Ham..he's got some guts, if not moves and not enough speed. Tuna wouldn't have told him he could hang arounnd and back up JJ if he were a wimp.

My comparison with Tham is if LJ can carry the feature back load that Tham claimed he could, and couldn't.

I've seen every regular and preseason carry Lamont had with the Jets, and there has never been a consensus that he is an elite back. My own opinion is that for a runner his size he is brought down too easily. Still, he's a power back, a goal line asset, and superior back to Tham in vision, burst, and off tackle running.

But if he were as elite a back as Martin, he'd still be in NY.

LJ will get plenty of help in Oakland, won't be seeing any eight in the box with those receivers. But he still has to prove he can carry a Curtis Martin/Julius Jones size load.

I'm glad he is getting a shot to start..and to his credit, he never b****ed and moaned about Cumar the way Tham apparently did about Emmitt.
 

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So what happened to that great D last year, and if WArner was so good then why didnt the giants keep him for backup, if McCown was so much bbetter was warner signed ot be the starter.

Once again their OL stinks, whihc is why they didnt do that great off last year, there D is nothing, they were in the bottom of league last year, and they ahve done nonthing to improve this year, they have untested corner and i seriously dount any of them cna hold a candle stick to KEY, and none of them to me can keep up with Glenn.


10+ wins reasonable

Warner wanted to start, that's why he's in Arizona. Are you forgetting that Warner and Giants routed us at home last year. Their OL wasn't any worse than Giants OL last year, the Giants didn't even have a left tackle last year.

On the Cardinals, our receivers won't matter, because Chike Okeafor,Bert Berry and Darnell Dockett will plant Bledsoe like a tree and make him fumble, just like we did two years ago. They also have Darryl Blackstock who'se stock in trade is sacking qb's;he can't cover, but he sure can get to the qb. They also have veteran leadership from Robert Griffin and Eric Green virtually shut-down USC's receivers last year. Don't you scout other teams? Don't you watch college football? Plus beating Dallas is like winning the super bowl for them.
 

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dargonking999 said:
Hambrck was the same way when he was behind emitt, remember he had a 5 YPC, dosent mean he will be a good starter, he still needs to prove


Duh, Hambrick was an udfa, Jordan a second round pick whom the Jets hated to let go, because they thought he could be Martin's heir-apparent.
 

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dargonking999 said:
your right so doesnt that make your point pointless then, because allyou were talking about was paper facts.:)

Your smiley face looks like a paper moon.
 

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I thought the 3-4 defense's strength was playing the run. Isn't that how the Steelers beat the Jets twice last year.
You thought wrong. I love how people think 1 game or play is "evidence." The knock on the 3-4 is that it is susceptable to the run becuase they give away weight. Please look it up if you still aren't clear.
 

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Katr i dont care where you were drafted, there is no evidence that he can last a starter over a 16 game season, he has been a backup maybe he cna maybe he cant, but i defentily dont see proff saying he will.
 

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You forgot Carolina, they're getting Steve Smith back, added a nice young RB, Keary Colbert is now a second year guy and they added Ken Lucas to their secondary.

I did forget about Carolina. They were coming on strong during the last of 2004. With the inclusions they could present some trouble for all. But they are beatable!
 
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You thought wrong. I love how people think 1 game or play is "evidence." The knock on the 3-4 is that it is susceptable to the run becuase they give away weight. Please look it up if you still aren't clear.

very true... the 3-4's strength lies in creative pass rush situations... you take away one DLmen and replace him with a lighter LB... the 3-4 can be ran on, easily at times...
 

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StonetheCrow77 said:
very true... the 3-4's strength lies in creative pass rush situations... you take away one DLmen and replace him with a lighter LB... the 3-4 can be ran on, easily at times...
See what common sense will do for a feller. ;)

Right on the money.
 

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StonetheCrow77 said:
very true... the 3-4's strength lies in creative pass rush situations... you take away one DLmen and replace him with a lighter LB... the 3-4 can be ran on, easily at times...


which is why we will run both 4-3 and 3-4, since we ahve the personal still here
 

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Really when i looked at the schedule we only play 5 teams that went to the playoffs. And There's not alot of teams that dont have explosive offensives, with JJin the backfield and guys like Glen Crayton and MOrgan(hopefully) we can strach the field passing to, so really once again your statment renders your argument pointless.

You didn't read my whole post. I also said the year before which includes Carolina and Kansas City,plus probably the Cardinals will get in this year and we play the Eagles twice, so that's potentially 9 games against playoff teams with Drew Bledsoe at the helm who couldn't get it done last year with a better team than the one we have now. You know as well as I do that you can't count on guys like Morgan who hasn't proven anything and Crayton, he's a athlete,not a receiver yet. The defense, a bunch of rookies who don't know the pro game yet, a bunch of veterans who don't know the new scheme, coached by a Defensive coordinator who's learning the new scheme OJT. You're over-simplying a number of complex variables and assuming that Parcells has a magic wand that make it happen over night.
 

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All last year?

I wonder why.

No, Lamont is no Hambrick "wimp" (tho that's hardly the word to describe T-Ham..he's got some guts, if not moves and not enough speed. Tuna wouldn't have told him he could hang arounnd and back up JJ if he were a wimp.

My comparison with Tham is if LJ can carry the feature back load that Tham claimed he could, and couldn't.

I've seen every regular and preseason carry Lamont had with the Jets, and there has never been a consensus that he is an elite back. My own opinion is that for a runner his size he is brought down too easily. Still, he's a power back, a goal line asset, and superior back to Tham in vision, burst, and off tackle running.

But if he were as elite a back as Martin, he'd still be in NY.

LJ will get plenty of help in Oakland, won't be seeing any eight in the box with those receivers. But he still has to prove he can carry a Curtis Martin/Julius Jones size load.

I'm glad he is getting a shot to start..and to his credit, he never b****ed and moaned about Cumar the way Tham apparently did about Emmitt.

I never said he was an elite back,just that he is a lot better than Hambrick and probably a legitimate starter. I beg to differ on Hambrick's wimpyness, when a 6 foot 241 back shys away from contact with a 5'9" 180lb db like Ronde Barber instead of running him over or we get laughed at by Eagle fans because Hambrick ran out bounds when he saw Bobby 'no can tackle' Taylor between him and the goal line;that was the Eagles' fan description of Taylor, that's humilating to me and frustating that Parcells didn't get a real running back to compete with Hambrick.
 

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kartr said:
You're over-simplying a number of complex variables and assuming that Parcells has a magic wand that make it happen over night.QUOTE]

You're right about this one Kartr. Even the best laid offensive/defensive plans of coaches have to be modified due to unexpected changes. It's a real chess match out there sometimes.
 

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You thought wrong. I love how people think 1 game or play is "evidence." The knock on the 3-4 is that it is susceptable to the run becuase they give away weight. Please look it up if you still aren't clear.

1 game, what are you referring to? Don't the Steelers and Ravens run the 3-4?
Are they easy to run on? Didn't Parcells use the 3-4 with the Giants and were they easy for us to run on. I don't think so.
 

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Teams identified are scheduled games in 2005 regular season (divisional/non-divisional)...



Up and coming of late 2004 season.



Marty is a great coach -- thought he'd do better in 2004; they're tough



Great passing game w/Alexander; all-round team hungry for a name. Almost made one last year. They'll be there for 4 quarters.



Improved team since they left the NFC-East (Emmits gone); but they'll return to the NFC-E with a viciousness.



They've made some improvements also.

Kansas - Dec 24

Dangerous threat to any Team. Dick Vermeil will bring the "A" game for 60 miinutes.



Unknown variable - that's why they're going to be trouble.

Of course no one in the NFC-East will give you trouble.:rolleyes:

... Hey buddy how do you know what will happen? We could blow em all out. So **** with your lil predictions. & Your Eagles might choke again
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