Skins Cap Space 3/7/07 how do they do it?

[apickmans]

Eh? Did you miss the article that said that Marshall was going to start at WLB, and Rocky was going to be stuck on special-teams duty until he can figure out how to play LB?

I guess I did. You mind showing me a link to the article?

 

[cobra]

I guess I did. You mind showing me a link to the article?

I will try to find it. I saw it at ES, I think. I will try to find it, but I apologize in advance if I can't. I'm horrible at searching for stuff. BRB.

Here is one that I read. I think there is another. But you get the gist:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=184229

With Fletcher in the middle, Lemar Marshall can move back to the weakside, where he played well in 2005. Marshall, a former safety in college, has cover skills. He also has enough speed to come off the edge. His long arms make him an effective pass rusher even if he doesn't get sacks. This also means the team does not have to worry whether Rocky McIntosh will be ready to start on the weakside. Marshall is ready to start there, and McIntosh can continue to work as a special teams performer.

 

[AdamJT13]

Adam is this correct? If so how do they do it?

1. The cap has gone up by $23.634 million in the past two years. Any team that still has cap problems either is inept or isn't even trying to maximize their cap room. Most teams have more cap room than they can even spend on what's available.

2. The Skins aren't afraid to keep pushing cap hits into future seasons. They've already renegotiated nine contracts this offseason to get more cap room. And even before their latest round of renegotiations, their cap commitment for 2008 was almost $8 million more than any other team's, almost $19 million more than any other team's for 2009 and more than $22 million more than any other team's in 2010.

3. The Skins hardly have any players worth paying a lot. So when they inevitably cut them or have them take a pay cut, it doesn't seem like a big deal. Do you think any Skins fans are going to be crying when they cut Archuleta, Carter, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten, Daniels, Rabach, Thomas, Griffin or Jansen over the next few seasons? Seriously, those are most of the guys making big money on that team. Most of them aren't worth it, and the others will hardly be missed when they're gone. A lot of Skins fans already are indifferent about Shawn Springs possibly leaving. It probably won't be long before they feel the same way about Portis, Washington, Moss and Fletcher-Baker.

 

[Verdict]

Any way you slice it the Skins are mortgaging their future. Every team does it to some degree, some just do it more than others. The increasing salary cap helps alleviate the mortgaging to some degree, but it is relative. The cap goes up just as much for teams who mortgage their future to a lesser degree. The Skins will have to cut their depth down even further, or be priced out of the free agent market, or just start all over, which is likely to happen at some point.

 

[5Stars]

The Skins will have to cut their depth down even further, or be priced out of the free agent market, or just start all over, which is likely to happen at some point.

This is exactely right on!!



It's going to happen eventually...that's just a basic principle of micro economics...

 

[apickmans]

I will try to find it. I saw it at ES, I think. I will try to find it, but I apologize in advance if I can't. I'm horrible at searching for stuff. BRB.

Here is one that I read. I think there is another. But you get the gist:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=184229

With Fletcher in the middle, Lemar Marshall can move back to the weakside, where he played well in 2005. Marshall, a former safety in college, has cover skills. He also has enough speed to come off the edge. His long arms make him an effective pass rusher even if he doesn't get sacks. This also means the team does not have to worry whether Rocky McIntosh will be ready to start on the weakside. Marshall is ready to start there, and McIntosh can continue to work as a special teams performer.

"Can" is the magic word. If it was replaced with "will" then it would be a different story.

Thanks for finding this article, appreciate it, but until I hear a coach say something along the lines of "Marshall will be the starter" I think its safe to assume it will be a competition to see who the starter will be.

 

[Mansta54]

Or.... they are a sign that the team couldn't afford to do more (e.g., compete for Thomas, Clements, a guard, etc.).




Fletcher was not inexpensive. You spent an extra $4 million a season to upgrade to Fletcher over Marshall... a move that was not necessary.

And word from Leonard Davis is that Washington tried to match what Dallas was offering but couldn't afford it. So, in other words, the team was trying to spend a lot, but just couldn't. That sure doesn't sound like they "learned their lesson." In fact, I would say them letting Dockery walk and then trying to outbid Dallas for Davis is pretty much firm evidence that the team hasn't learned a lesson.

 

[Smashmouth24]

2. The Skins aren't afraid to keep pushing cap hits into future seasons. They've already renegotiated nine contracts this offseason to get more cap room. And even before their latest round of renegotiations, their cap commitment for 2008 was almost $8 million more than any other team's, almost $19 million more than any other team's for 2009 and more than $22 million more than any other team's in 2010.

Where do other teams in the NFC East fall in terms of cap room committed in future years?

 

[jazzcat22]

does it matter?

who cares how much cap room they have?

and even if they (or another team) technically have no cap room, you can always restructure deals or release a player here and there to make room

David

Your right...who cares, because they haven't used it to their advantage anyway. Give them another 20 million, they will find a way to blow it. And still come out worse than before.

 

[AdamJT13]

Where do other teams in the NFC East fall in terms of cap room committed in future years?

Going into the weekend (before some signings and renegotiations) --

2008 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $117.4 million
Philadelphia -- $88.3 million
N.Y. Giants -- $78.9 million
Dallas -- $73.2 million

2009 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $111.5 million
Philadelphia -- $74.8 million
Dallas -- $66.3 million
N.Y. Giants -- $62.9 million

2010 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $85.0 million
Philadelphia -- $62.3 million
Dallas -- $45.9 million
N.Y. Giants -- $37.6 million

 

[5Stars]

Going into the weekend (before some signings and renegotiations) --

2008 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $117.4 million
Philadelphia -- $88.3 million
N.Y. Giants -- $78.9 million
Dallas -- $73.2 million

2009 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $111.5 million
Philadelphia -- $74.8 million
Dallas -- $66.3 million
N.Y. Giants -- $62.9 million

2010 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $85.0 million
Philadelphia -- $62.3 million
Dallas -- $45.9 million
N.Y. Giants -- $37.6 million

You know what? If I had a General Ledger that showed that about my finances like the RedStinks do, the IRS would be all over me!!

 

[jksmith269]

Going into the weekend (before some signings and renegotiations) --

2008 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $117.4 million
Philadelphia -- $88.3 million
N.Y. Giants -- $78.9 million
Dallas -- $73.2 million

2009 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $111.5 million
Philadelphia -- $74.8 million
Dallas -- $66.3 million
N.Y. Giants -- $62.9 million

2010 CAP COMMITMENT
Washington -- $85.0 million
Philadelphia -- $62.3 million
Dallas -- $45.9 million
N.Y. Giants -- $37.6 million

Of the 73 mil for next season how many players are under contract? What about the Sking? Just wondering.... Thanks