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SultanOfSix;1733530 said:
Follow the posts. Perhaps if someone video taped them for you, it would help.

Just throwing back the same drivel I hear about BB all the time.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1733529 said:
Ok, lets play this way. Any proof that they have continued "cheating? I doubt it and they are still kicking everyones *** including ours.
They are a solid team.

True....they are a very good team.

Couldn't hold our 90s teams' jocks....but the best of this era.
 

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Rack;1733521 said:
No, he didn't.


1. Jimmy Johnson said he tried it once and it didn't help him.

2. It wasn't cheating at that time.

3. Just cuz he keeps posting it over and over and over and over and over and over again, doesn't make it true.


Reread the article - he never said he did it "once" He said it was common place in NFL and went on to talking about home and away and instances where you could tape from booth versus on the field.

Also, Adamjt on topic from this site....


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Originally Posted by Nors
Totally legal pre 2007 rule change, stealing signs.

No, it's been illegal for years. In fact, the NFL sent out a memo at the beginning of LAST season reminding teams that no video cameras are allowed on the sidelines.
 

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PatsWin2002;1733527 said:
But I thought "once a cheater, always a cheater"??

Nobody said Johnson cheated. What are you trying to say? Be careful and bring a good agument when you reply please.

Cuz I am going to compare BB's cheating to JJ's cheating. Hypothetically speaking of course cuz JJ never cheated.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1733529 said:
Ok, lets play this way. Any proof that they have continued "cheating? I doubt it and they are still kicking everyones *** including ours.
They are a solid team.

I'm sorry, did you hear a voice in your head that said I said they are still cheating, because I never said that.
 

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Dallas;1733511 said:
Come on bro. I am not about to get into calling you a flipping fool or someone looking to talk down to someone.

Please don't make me do that.

JJ at Miami when everyone here is talking about Dallas? Are you serious?


I bet he cheated at jacks when he was 8 as well.

Get over it IR. We are asking for proof when he was coaching here and not in Miami.

Why I even have to break this down for you is unreal.


So you think it's perfectly moral to do it in college against amateur student athletes, but its immoral to do it with grown men and paid professionals? Okay, that's some pretty flexible morality. I wish I could move the bar around to suit my own argument, but I would have a problem with it. Just like 95% of the people calling out the Patriots probably applauded Switzer for bringing in Bonoil to kick his 7th FG against the Packers when the game was in doubt.


THere were plenty of people who accused us of running up the score in the pros, and even in Superbowl 27. That's what the petty haters said, because they were jealous.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1733555 said:
Clinton didn't inhale either. Did that make it better?
Johnson admitted to doing it, what is the difference if it was once or a hundred times?

It wasn't against the rules when Jimmy did it.


He certainly didn't do it the WEEK AFTER recieving a memo telling him NOT to do it.


He sure as hell didn't steal any signals to win 2 superbowls.
 

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Bizwah;1733545 said:
True....they are a very good team.

Couldn't hold our 90s teams' jocks....but the best of this era.

That would have been fun to watch.:)
 

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PatsWin2002;1733542 said:
Just throwing back the same drivel I hear about BB all the time.


You know what's comedy? Deep down inside yourself. You hate it that BB was cheating and got caught cheating.

You want to know why? Here you and I are at a bar for a drink.



Dallas: 5 SB's baby. We got 3 in four years. Yeah!! /gluggluglug Ahhhhhh!!

You: We got 3 SB's to.

Dallas: Well you cheated tho.

You: You don't know that. We didn't cheat.

Dallas: You cheated. You lost picks and your coach is broke cuz of the fine. You cheated.

You: But we didn't cheat.

Dallas: You got caught cheating bro. Sucks to be you and the Pats. I mean how do you defend those SB's now? hrmm?

You: #$%$Q# I hate Bellicheat!!! Tainted our SB wins w/ his videogate.
 

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InmanRoshi;1733557 said:
So you think it's perfectly moral to do it in college against amateur student athletes, but its immoral to do it with grown men and paid professionals? Okay, that's some pretty flexible morality. I wish I could move the bar around to suit my own argument, but I would have a problem with it. Just like 95% of the people calling out the Patriots probably applauded Switzer for bringing in Bonoil to kick his 7th FG against the Packers when the game was in doubt.


THere were plenty of people who accused us of running up the score in the pros, and even in the Superbowls. That's what the petty haters said, because they were jealous.


What we all are saying that in college. Which is the example you tossed out there. It is different. You need to show big and get as many points as you can in order to assure your spot in the polls and NC game.

There was no moving the bar around. I really don't know why you have to say that.
 

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The simple fact is the Pats were asked to stop but didn't. They farted in the face of the NFL.

Of course, they really are pretty darn good. I wish our team was as good.

I just really hate to see that their team will soon be considered by many to be a better dynasty than our 90s teams. I guess I hate to see that happen.
 

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SultanOfSix;1733548 said:
I'm sorry, did you hear a voice in your head that said I said they are still cheating, because I never said that.

Oh I'm sorry. I thought your whining was about this Patriots team.
:rolleyes:
 

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The Foreskins, a divison and most hated foe, gets killed, yet you guys are arguing over the Cheatriots.

:rolleyes:
 

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InmanRoshi;1733557 said:
So you think it's perfectly moral to do it in college against amateur student athletes, but its immoral to do it with grown men and paid professionals? Okay, that's some pretty flexible morality. I wish I could move the bar around to suit my own argument, but I would have a problem with it. Just like 95% of the people calling out the Patriots probably applauded Switzer for bringing in Bonoil to kick his 7th FG against the Packers when the game was in doubt.


THere were plenty of people who accused us of running up the score in the pros, and even in the Superbowls. That's what the petty haters said, because they were jealous.

NCAA (score counts in polls) vs. NFL (all about the W's)...
 

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Dave_in-NC;1733564 said:
That would have been fun to watch.:)

I think we win 8 of 10 against them.

Their defense isn't nearly good enough to stop Emmitt, Troy, Irvin, and Novacek. We wouldn't leave the field.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1733573 said:
Oh I'm sorry. I thought your whining was about this Patriots team.
:rolleyes:

I thought your logic was from Planet Earth too, but I was wrong.

Perhaps you should stick to a Pats board. You sure like to defend them a lot. Almost as much as Nors.
 

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Dallas;1733565 said:
You know what's comedy? Deep down inside yourself. You hate it that BB was cheating and got caught cheating.

You want to know why? Here you and I are at a bar for a drink.



Dallas: 5 SB's baby. We got 3 in four years. Yeah!! /gluggluglug Ahhhhhh!![/I]

You: We got 3 SB's to.

Dallas: Well you cheated tho.

You: You don't know that. We didn't cheat.

Dallas: You cheated. You lost picks and your coach is broke cuz of the fine. You cheated.

You: But we didn't cheat.

Dallas: You got caught cheating bro. Sucks to be you and the Pats. I mean how do you defend those SB's now? hrmm?

You: #$%$Q# I hate Bellicheat!!! Tainted our SB wins w/ his videogate.



:lmao2:
 

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I have to say. The Dallas 90's D could pretty much handle this Pat's offense.

This Patriot team never has seen pressure like what that defense would have brought.

Say what you want but I don't see this Pats team beating us on our best day and they're best day.

This Pats D could not do anything to stop what Dallas had on offense either.

Samuels on Irvin? PLEASE!!!!
 

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L-O-Jete;1733576 said:
NCAA (score counts in polls) vs. NFL (all about the W's)...

NFL Tie-Breaker Procedures

Formats used to determine Division and Wild Card playoff berths
DIVISION TIES

If at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical best won-lost-tied percentage, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined. The same steps are used to determine the sites.
TWO CLUBS

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games if applicable.
5. Best net points in division games.
6. Best net points in all games.
7. Strength of schedule.
8. Best net touchdwons in all games.
9. Coin Toss.

THREE OR MORE CLUBS

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
5. Best net points in division games.
6. Best net points in all games.

7. Strength of schedule.
8. Best net touchdowns in all games.
9. Coin Toss.
 

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SultanOfSix;1733580 said:
I thought your logic was from Planet Earth too, but I was wrong.

Perhaps you should stick to a Pats board. You sure like to defend them a lot. Almost as much as Nors.

Ahh when all else fails. The old "you must be a insert teams name here fan".:laugh2:
 
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