Slot WR our biggest need

[Daygoboy6191]

I hope you’re kidding...

I’m kidding, but I’m curious in the response.

 

[DanA]

I’m kidding, but I’m curious in the response.

I'd take Justin Jefferson before those two guys. I might be interested in a trade down situation but he's in the mix with McKinney, Gross Matos and Diggs rather than Ruggs, Chaisson, Henderson and Kinlaw.

 

[Daygoboy6191]

I'd take Justin Jefferson before those two guys. I might be interested in a trade down situation but he's in the mix with McKinney, Gross Matos and Diggs rather than Ruggs, Chaisson, Henderson and Kinlaw.

at 17???

 

[DanA]

at 17???

At the moment, in order, I probably have it:

1. Kinlaw
2. Henderson
3. Chaisson
4. Trade down
5. Ruggs
6. Gross Matos
7. Diggs
8. Jefferson
9. McKinney

 

[Daygoboy6191]

At the moment, in order, I probably have it:

1. Kinlaw
2. Henderson
3. Chaisson
4. Trade down
5. Ruggs
6. Gross Matos
7. Diggs
8. Jefferson
9. McKinney

YGM or McKinney if drafted in the first round IMO is a big reach.

 

[DanA]

YGM or McKinney if drafted in the first round IMO is a big reach.

I'd be pretty disappointed with them at 17 but pretty happy with either at 27

 

[JBell]

I will say this penciling in a WR to draft needing to be the slot guy is not doing you any justice not matter what round you are drafting him in. I think you could draft a WR to play on the outside and move Cooper to play inside and outside, and hopefully you draft someone who has some versatility.
If we don't draft someone in the first round I think someone like Reagor, or Aiyuk could be a great pickup in the 2nd because I think they are both versatile and could be game-changing WR's from inside or outside.

Aiyuk in the 2nd would be a home run.

 

[Future]

Michael Gallup i pretty damn good too.

So if Ruggs is gone should they draft Reagor or Mims at 17?

Gallup is good. Amari is great. WR is still a need. The Cowboys had 3+ WRs on the field on over 65% of plays last year, and that's not even accounting for the number of snaps the #3 gets when Amari/Gallup get nicked up. I mean, you don't ignore right tackle because you have a good left tackle.

Reagor I would, but probably not Mims.

 

[Daygoboy6191]

Gallup is good. Amari is great. WR is still a need. The Cowboys had 3+ WRs on the field on over 65% of plays last year, and that's not even accounting for the number of snaps the #3 gets when Amari/Gallup get nicked up. I mean, you don't ignore right tackle because you have a good left tackle.

Reagor I would, but probably not Mims.

Nobody said ignore it, but I think the point is there's a ton of options in this draft and you can get a guy in this draft in the 3rd day although I assume it will and should be addressed in the first 2 days.

 

[Future]

Nobody said ignore it, but I think the point is there's a ton of options in this draft and you can get a guy in this draft in the 3rd day although I assume it will and should be addressed in the first 2 days.

"You can get a guy in this draft in the third day" applies to every position. The point is that you don't want just a guy. If you draft a safety at 17, you're getting a guy. If you draft Ruggs at 17 (and I think Reagor), you're getting a guy who is an immediate difference-maker.

 

[Daygoboy6191]

"You can get a guy in this draft in the third day" applies to every position. The point is that you don't want just a guy. If you draft a safety at 17, you're getting a guy. If you draft Ruggs at 17 (and I think Reagor), you're getting a guy who is an immediate difference-maker.

I agree, but you have your Darius Heyward-Bey who bust, and you can find your Mike Wallace's of the world later in the draft too.

 

[Future]

I agree, but you have your Darius Heyward-Bey who bust, and you can find your Mike Wallace's of the world later in the draft too.

Ok, you also have your Justin Gilberts and Richard Shermans. Any position can bust, any position can be found late.

 

[Daygoboy6191]

Ok, you also have your Justin Gilberts and Richard Shermans. Any position can bust, any position can be found late.

Exactly...

 

[Future]

Exactly...

So you go with guys who make the most impact early...that's WR.

I don't really get your point. Bust potential is pretty irrelevant.

 

[Daygoboy6191]

So you go with guys who make the most impact early...that's WR.

I don't really get your point. Bust potential is pretty irrelevant.

Actually WR is not really known to be a position to get an early impact from although last year seemed to beg the differ.

 

[Future]

Actually WR is not really known to be a position to get an early impact from although last year seemed to beg the differ.

Neither is corner, DT, DE...or really anything other than OL and RB.

Ruggs is an immediate impact because of his speed. He doesn't need polish.

 

[McKDaddy]

It's not the position we need to allocate the most resources but it is absolutely the biggest need. We cannot send a scrub out to play 700 snaps on our offense.

I would argue that if you utilize TE & RB's more effectively you can account for a good chunk of those targets. Having said that, this draft is so deep in WR talent that its hard to imagine not coming away with a nice player who can come in & contribute.

 

[DanA]

I would argue that if you utilize TE & RB's more effectively you can account for a good chunk of those targets. Having said that, this draft is so deep in WR talent that its hard to imagine not coming away with a nice player who can come in & contribute.

In 2018 all but the 49ers used 11 personnel more than 50% of the time and Mike McCarthy used it the 2nd most in the league at 78% of the time.

We can use an extra TE or RB a bit but you don’t want to tie our coaches hands.

 

[McKDaddy]

In 2018 all but the 49ers used 11 personnel more than 50% of the time and Mike McCarthy used it the 2nd most in the league at 78% of the time.

We can use an extra TE or RB a bit but you don’t want to tie our coaches hands.

No, but he said he was a coach who wanted talent & he would figure out how to best utilize them. We know Jarwin, Pollard & Zeke have all been underutilized in the passing game so he has some resources even if we don't add a significant slot threat.