Small school defensive backs

[Galian Beast]

TDCS actually made a great point.

This team has tried time and time again to draft and develop defensive backs from small schools and they have not once succeeded in the last decade or so.

I wonder why it is, that they keep doing this.

 

[Keystone_Heavy]

TDCS actually made a great point.

This team has tried time and time again to draft and develop defensive backs from small schools and they have not once succeeded in the last decade or so.

I wonder why it is, that they keep doing this.

We have had 3 DBs picked from non FBS schools in the past decade. One was Courtney Brown, a 7th rounder. Another was Matt Johnson who was drafted last year and hasn't even been healthy enough to see the field.

This thread has given me AIDS.

 

[Galian Beast]

We have had 3 DBs picked from non FBS schools in the past decade. One was Courtney Brown, a 7th rounder. Another was Matt Johnson who was drafted last year and hasn't even been healthy enough to see the field.

This thread has given me AIDS.

I like how you decide to change what I said, into something you thought I said...

 

[gimmesix]

We have had 3 DBs picked from non FBS schools in the past decade. One was Courtney Brown, a 7th rounder. Another was Matt Johnson who was drafted last year and hasn't even been healthy enough to see the field.

This thread has given me AIDS.

If you look at the drafting of small-school DBs overall, I think people would find that most teams miss on them, but at times, they hit and hit big.

That's why they do it. Most of the best big-school DBs are picked over early. So the choice is taking a big-school one who has shown he can't play with the best at that level and hoping he proves that wrong, or a small-school one who has shown he can play with the best or above the best at this level.

 

[deadrody]

I like how you decide to change what I said, into something you thought I said...

By all means, list the OTHER "small school" DBs they've drafted if "non FBS chools" doesn't meet your definition of "small school"

 

[Keystone_Heavy]

I like how you decide to change what I said, into something you thought I said...

Then what were you trying to say? If you are going to tell me that I am misrepresenting what you were trying to say, then at least explain yourself.. You said, and I quote...

This team has tried time and time again to draft and develop defensive backs from small schools and they have not once succeeded in the last decade or so.

I wonder why it is, that they keep doing this.

The fact of the matter is, they have drafted 3 defensive backs from non FCS programs since 2001. To say that they have tried "time and time again" is just a bizzare observation to try and make. Unless you have some other meaning for small school. Usually when people say that, they mean lower than FBS.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

TDCS actually made a great point.

This team has tried time and time again to draft and develop defensive backs from small schools and they have not once succeeded in the last decade or so.

I wonder why it is, that they keep doing this.

Nope, he pretty much took what you said and drove it into the ground.

 

[Galian Beast]

By all means, list the OTHER "small school" DBs they've drafted if "non FBS chools" doesn't meet your definition of "small school"

Josh Thomas, Buffalo
AOA, Indiana (Pa)
DeAngelo Smith, Cincinnati
Stephen Hodge, TCU
Mike Mickens, Cincinnati
Justin Beriault, Ball State
Nate Jones, Rutgers

 

[Galian Beast]

Then what were you trying to say? If you are going to tell me that I am misrepresenting what you were trying to say, then at least explain yourself.. You said, and I quote...



The fact of the matter is, they have drafted 3 defensive backs from non FCS programs since 2001. To say that they have tried "time and time again" is just a bizzare observation to try and make. Unless you have some other meaning for small school. Usually when people say that, they mean lower than FBS.

If I meant non FCS programs, I would have said Non FCS programs...

I meant schools that aren't necessarily top rated schools... which certainly includes non fcs schools.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Josh Thomas, Buffalo
AOA, Indiana (Pa)
DeAngelo Smith, Cincinnati
Stephen Hodge, TCU
Mike Mickens, Cincinnati
Justin Beriault, Ball State
Nate Jones, Rutgers

Ha! When you have to use Rutgers and TCU as "small schools," you know you're reaching to make a point.

 

[DFWJC]

TDCS actually made a great point.

This team has tried time and time again to draft and develop defensive backs from small schools and they have not once succeeded in the last decade or so.

I wonder why it is, that they keep doing this.

You sound like there have been at least a dozen (maybe more) of these so called small school DB failures.
I recall AOA, but off the top of my head cant think of a ton of others.
Maybe you can show us a list?

 

[Galian Beast]

Ha! When you have to use Rutgers and TCU as "small schools," you know you're reaching to make a point.

In your mind perhaps. And the others?

 

[Galian Beast]

You sound like there have been at least a dozen (maybe more) of these so called small school DB failures.
I recall AOA, but off the top of my head cant think of a ton of others.
Maybe you can show us a list?

Again, where did I say a dozen or more? It's simply the majority, and they don't work out.

 

[gimmesix]

In your mind perhaps. And the others?

I don't know, GB, I wouldn't consider most of those guys developmental prospects, like AOA was.

I don't believe Dallas took Mickens, Beriault, Jones and Smith to "draft and develop." They were supposed to be already developed.

Probably the same for Thomas, while I believe they were trying to convert Hodge.

Those are different prospects from the AOAs, Browns, etc.

 

[DFWJC]

Again, where did I say a dozen or more? It's simply the majority, and they don't work out.

No, I didn't say you said dozens, just that it sounded like it must be that many or a lot.
For starters, if you take player in the 4th round or Later, the odds of them making it long term are greatly reduced. That is regardless of school.

 

[Galian Beast]

I don't know, GB, I wouldn't consider most of those guys developmental prospects, like AOA was.

I don't believe Dallas took Mickens, Beriault, Jones and Smith to "draft and develop." They were supposed to be already developed.

Probably the same for Thomas, while I believe they were trying to convert Hodge.

Those are different prospects from the AOAs, Browns, etc.

I didn't compare anyone to AOA..

You develop everyone you draft. Especially lower round guys...

My point is that they've taken a lot of players who really don't deal with the highest levels of competition.

I'd much rather take a player who at least dealt with the competition but might have other things holding him back.

 

[gimmesix]

I didn't compare anyone to AOA..

You develop everyone you draft. Especially lower round guys...

My point is that they've taken a lot of players who really don't deal with the highest levels of competition.

I'd much rather take a player who at least dealt with the competition but might have other things holding him back.

I don't agree with you. Taking SEC defensive backs who struggled against SEC receivers, for instance, is a formula for failure.

You take the guy who didn't deal with the highest levels of competition because he at least has shown on his level that he can perform well.

 

[Galian Beast]

I don't agree with you. Taking SEC defensive backs who struggled against SEC receivers, for instance, is a formula for failure.

You take the guy who didn't deal with the highest levels of competition because he at least has shown on his level that he can perform well.

Again, where did I say take the ones who struggled...

My god...

 

[Yuma Cactus]

Again, where did I say take the ones who struggled...

My god...

The ones who didn't struggle will go in the first 3 rounds.

 

[Galian Beast]

The ones who didn't struggle will go in the first 3 rounds.

People slip for all kinds of reasons. Came out too early, came out too late. Maybe they're a bit undersized. Maybe there was an injury. Maybe they got suspended and there are some character concerns.

It's not just about struggling against the competition.

My point is, I'd rather go with these types of issues, than a smaller school kid who might have had good years against other smaller kid schools. Who when they get to the NFL are either really behind on their coaching or aren't talented enough to compete.