SNF: Giants vs 49ers Game Thread

Zman5 said:
Whether JPP will be good or not doesn't matter because what I'm saying is they are missing a his production and impact from previous season. Dez could come back and not be the same player. We'll be missing Dez from past seasons if that does happen.

So all the turnovers we get are because we played well but the turnovers from other teams get are caused by our players playing bad? Two of the three turnover was due to Gint's defensive players hitting our WR and stripping the ball from them.

How did they beneft from rash of injuries when Dez was the only person that got injured? And that was late in the game.
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Dez missed most of that game, not just from the injury buy he was dehydrated and was out. So not sure what your point is there
 
RunDMC said:
I'm talking about right now. They're benefitting from Romo and Dez being out. That's indisputable. If Dez and Romo don't go down they don't have a chance because the Cowboys would run away with the East. They may and probably will win it, but they're not winning in the playoffs. Not without a pass rush. In Week 1 we simply didn't protect the ball well enough. Beasley has the first down and doesn't protect it. Street just has to make that catch, duck, and protect himself and the ball. That's on them. Nothing the Giants did. They aren't that good. They nearly let a pathetic 49ers team beat them.
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Then you are missing my point. My point is with better coaching, a team with injuries to their key players will overcome it and win some games. All we are doing is showing the world how bad we are without Romo.

Gints beat a pathetic 49ners team but we lost to the pathetic Saints team with a gimpy QB.
 
While the Giants didn't have Cruz or JPP in the season opener, the Cowboys came into the game minus Hardy, RoMac & Scandrick...and didn't have Dez or Gregory to finish it.

I'd say missing Hardy certainly offset them missing JPP...then also add losing Gregory as well. And while the Giants didn't have Cruz, they did have their best WR. OBJ had 5 catches for 44 yards and Dez had 5 catches for 48 yards. Running backs led both teams in receiving yards (Dunbar & Vereen)...and Dez of course missed crunch time with a broken foot.
 
Irvin88_4life said:
Dez missed most of that game, not just from the injury buy he was dehydrated and was out. So not sure what your point is there
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My point is how pathetic our team looks without some key players yet I see other teams missing key players that play lot better. Is our depth that bad? Are the coaches so dependant on superior talent that they can't game plan for backups?
 
It's no news our coaching staff is mediocre at best. There's a reason we managed to go 8-8 three straight seasons. The only reason we had a chance was because of Witten, Romo, and Dez. Coaching staff always was a liability. It is what is at this point.
 
Zman5 said:
My point is how pathetic our team looks without some key players yet I see other teams missing key players that play lot better. Is our depth that bad? Are the coaches so dependant on superior talent that they can't game plan for backups?
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Again, our backup qb is the problem.
 
Zman5 said:
My point is how pathetic our team looks without some key players yet I see other teams missing key players that play lot better. Is our depth that bad? Are the coaches so dependant on superior talent that they can't game plan for backups?
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If the Giants had lost Eli they'd be 0-5
 
RunDMC said:
It's no news our coaching staff is mediocre at best. There's a reason we managed to go 8-8 three straight seasons. The only reason we had a chance was because of Witten, Romo, and Dez. Coaching staff always was a liability. It is what is at this point.
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dont forget the one year Garrett goes to the playoffs the whole division had to suck, not just 1 team but all of them. That WILL not be the case this year. Cowboy fans thought it would, but reality didnt. the Truth is rearing its ugly head again this year. and still our organization is happy with the results. some organiziations are happy to not compete for the SB, as long as they make money. I feel we have joined their ranks.
 
PJTHEDOORS said:
Again, our backup qb is the problem.
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He is one of the major ones but I think there is more to it than that. He played well enough to win at least one game had other players played little better against Atl and NO.

And the way our offense played today, I'm not sure if Cassel would have made any difference today.
 
Zman5 said:
He is one of the major ones but I think there is more to it than that. He played well enough to win at least one game had other players played little better against Atl and NO.

And the way our offense played today, I'm not sure if Cassel would have made any difference today.
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Defenses overall know what Weeden is and have adjusted. He won't throw deep, won't look past his top 2 targets, and won't step up in the pocket.
 
PJTHEDOORS said:
Defenses know what Weeden is and have adjusted. He won't throw deep, won't look past his top 2 targets, and won't step up in the pocket.
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Yes. They punched us hard and we folded like a cheap lawn chair. We couldn't counter. The players and coaches had no answers.
 
RunDMC said:
It's no news our coaching staff is mediocre at best. There's a reason we managed to go 8-8 three straight seasons. The only reason we had a chance was because of Witten, Romo, and Dez. Coaching staff always was a liability. It is what is at this point.
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You don't win 12 games in spite of the coaches. Name me one team with their star WR and QB out right now that's winning. Hell AZ couldn't even get past 20 pts when Palmer went down.
 
Zman5 said:
Not sure about that. Him and his brain fart was the reason they lost to us in game one.
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Yeah they lost with his bad play in the first two games. The don't win the past 3 with Nassib under center.
 
PJTHEDOORS said:
Weeden couldn't counter.
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I'm not sure if it's just WeDone at this point. Our WRs, RBs, and OL hasn't done much either. Outside of Witt and Dunbar, no one has been good consistently.

I'm hoping we can find out in our next game when they put in Cassel.
 
StevenOtero said:
You don't win 12 games in spite of the coaches.
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