So here are the D.Ends. who do you want, and who's realistic at 28?

[manster4ever]

Their is a chance he will. Another large DE may overtake his spot. Tanoh Kpassagnon out of Villanova. 6'7" 290 lbs. claiming he will run a 4.5 40 and destroy the cone drills as well. If he does he may shoot up to top 10 pick. Hes compared to JPP.

Yeah, I'm starting to see more and more about this kid. Holy crap, those measurables!!!! Jebus.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I like him, but as this write up from Walter Football says, he isn't a real good run stopper. Then again, we dont' NEED a run stopper, especially against QB's like Rodgers, Manning and Ryan.

1. https://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/college/Missouri_logo.gif Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri
   Height: 6-3. Weight: 260.
   Projected 40 Time: 4.77.
   Projected Round (2017): 1-2.
   1/14/17: Harris totaled 61 tackles, 12 tackles for a loss, nine sacks, two passes batted and two forced fumbles in 2016. To start the season, he turned in underwhelming performances against West Virginia and Eastern Michigan with a total of five tackles in those games. Harris exploded versus Georgia though, racking up three sacks and seven tackles.
   
   8/13/16: Harris (6-3, 235) is a speedy edge rusher who broke out in 2015 with 56 tackles, 18.5 tackles for a loss, seven sacks and two forced fumbles. He was a backup as a redshirt freshman in 2014 and notched two sacks. Harris needs to add weight for the NFL.
   
   What Harris does the best is get after the quarterback. He is a fast edge rusher with a fantastic first-step. He quickly gets penetration into the backfield and shows a nice ability to finish off plays. Harris is a fast edge rusher who can burn tackles with pure speed around the corner. Not only is his speed dangerous, but Harris shows some good moves with an excellent spin move back to the inside. He has some speed-to-power skills with the ability to fight offensive tackles. Harris also possesses some functional strength for the pass rush and shows quality read-and-react skills.
   
   Aside from his run defense, Harris could use work on improving a few things. Running more hoop drills could help him to sink his hips better, as there have been instances when he looked a little stiff hipped. Harris has a good starting point for pass-rushing moves that is a lot more advanced than many early round pass-rushers who just rely on their natural athleticisms, but continuing to developed more moves and master his current ones is always a good idea. Harris should continue to refine and expand his moves arsenal. He also should work on his hand usage to continue to get better at as using his hands and feet at the same time.
   
   For the NFL, I think Harris would be an excellent fit as a 3-4 outside linebacker. He has a good body type for that. He could remain a 4-3 defensive end, but he could have problems in run defense in that scheme.

Yep, we need that edge rusher, get to the QB! Explosive first step and bend are what matters most for RDE.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

IMHO, Derek Barnett is the most formidable, ferocious pass rusher in this year's class. He broke Reggie White's all-time sack record in only three years (33). It should have been 34 & a strip sack, but the refs at his bowl game blew the call, & called it an incompletion. Myles Garrett has already whined that he doesn't want to play in cold weather. He also "played" in his bowl game--played not to get hurt, that is. Meanwhile, Barrnett was in Nebraska's backfield nearly as often as the RB. Neither, however, can be even sniffed at unless we give up the farm to do so. Therefore, here are my top three DEs that may be there at 28 when we pick:

1-Ryan Anderson, Alabama: 6-2, 255: 9 sacks/19 TFLs/61 TKLs/10 QBHs/4 FFs/ 3 Fumble RCVs. While his teammate, Tim Williams, is taller at 6-4, & had similar sack, tfl, & qbh numbers, Anderson had nearly twice as many tackles, 4 forced fumbles to 2, & recovered 4 of them to two for Williams. Anderson has an extremely quick first step, & is strong for his size. Watching video on him, he is almost always a stride further up the field than his line mates when you freeze the frame.

2-T. J. Watt, Wisconsin: 6-5, 245: 12 sacks/ 16 TFLs/ 63 TKLs/ 13 QBHs/ 2 FFs. I would have Watt first, but he's only played one complete, successful season. Plus, his numbers were a bit inflated because the scheme was set up for him to make the play--ie: DT/DE stunts. The bloodline is there, obviously, so I may be overthinking it.

3-Soloman Thomas, Stanford: 6-3, 255: 8 sacks/ 15 TFLs/ 62 TKLs/ 7 QBHs/ 1 FF. While Thomas & fellow DE Charles Harris, Missouri, have very similar numbers, Harris weighs only 235. It was hard to choose between the two, but when you consider that Thomas played almost half of his snaps at DT, it shows his versatility.

We can't go wrong with any of these guys, or even a few more I haven't mentioned. We just need to get over our infatuation with offensive players, & give Rod M. some studs to work with.

 

[stilltheguru88]

IMHO, Derek Barnett is the most formidable, ferocious pass rusher in this year's class. He broke Reggie White's all-time sack record in only three years (33). It should have been 34 & a strip sack, but the refs at his bowl game blew the call, & called it an incompletion. Myles Garrett has already whined that he doesn't want to play in cold weather. He also "played" in his bowl game--played not to get hurt, that is. Meanwhile, Barrnett was in Nebraska's backfield nearly as often as the RB. Neither, however, can be even sniffed at unless we give up the farm to do so. Therefore, here are my top three DEs that may be there at 28 when we pick:

1-Ryan Anderson, Alabama: 6-2, 255: 9 sacks/19 TFLs/61 TKLs/10 QBHs/4 FFs/ 3 Fumble RCVs. While his teammate, Tim Williams, is taller at 6-4, & had similar sack, tfl, & qbh numbers, Anderson had nearly twice as many tackles, 4 forced fumbles to 2, & recovered 4 of them to two for Williams. Anderson has an extremely quick first step, & is strong for his size. Watching video on him, he is almost always a stride further up the field than his line mates when you freeze the frame.

2-T. J. Watt, Wisconsin: 6-5, 245: 12 sacks/ 16 TFLs/ 63 TKLs/ 13 QBHs/ 2 FFs. I would have Watt first, but he's only played one complete, successful season. Plus, his numbers were a bit inflated because the scheme was set up for him to make the play--ie: DT/DE stunts. The bloodline is there, obviously, so I may be overthinking it.

3-Soloman Thomas, Stanford: 6-3, 255: 8 sacks/ 15 TFLs/ 62 TKLs/ 7 QBHs/ 1 FF. While Thomas & fellow DE Charles Harris, Missouri, have very similar numbers, Harris weighs only 235. It was hard to choose between the two, but when you consider that Thomas played almost half of his snaps at DT, it shows his versatility.

We can't go wrong with any of these guys, or even a few more I haven't mentioned. We just need to get over our infatuation with offensive players, & give Rod M. some studs to work with.

Harris weighs more than 235 dude.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Been watching tape on Taco Charlton. Im starting to see the Carlos Dunlap comparisons that some. Not a star but a Solid pass rush threat. Wouldn't hate drafting him at 28.

Some project him at LDE in the NFL, I want a RDE if possible.

 

[RandyOh]

Some project him at LDE in the NFL, I want a RDE if possible.

I think Charlton can be a RE the same way Hardy was a RE when he was a Panther. Plus we have Tapper who is explosive at 271 pounds and just dropped down 260. Due to back problems he may be best used as a rotational piece and pass rush specialist to keep from injury.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I think Charlton can be a RE the same way Hardy was a RE when he was a Panther. Plus we have Tapper who is explosive at 271 pounds and just dropped down 260. Due to back problems he may be best used as a rotational piece and pass rush specialist to keep from injury.

Charlton simply is not a RDE, he fits best on the strongside.

 

[RandyOh]

Charlton simply is not a RDE, he fits best on the strongside.

Won't fully know that till the combine. If he shows he has athleticism then i think he could. Wouldn't change the fact that he is still very raw though. Probably wouldn't really be a big help till 3rd season.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Won't fully know that till the combine. If he shows he has athleticism then i think he could. Wouldn't change the fact that he is still very raw though. Probably wouldn't really be a big help till 3rd season.

We already know he fits the strongside by the tape, he is a 6-6 270 specimen with some pass rush, would be perfect at LDE if we choose to draft him as such.

We need a burner at RDE with explosion and bend, not a converted natural LDE.

 

[RandyOh]

We already know he fits the strongside by the tape, he is a 6-6 270 specimen with some pass rush, would be perfect at LDE if we choose to draft him as such.

We need a burner at RDE with explosion and bend, not a converted natural LDE.

Well our best chance at getting that decided to go back to Boston College. I wish Landry would have declared for the draft

 

[Rogerthat12]

Well our best chance at getting that decided to go back to Boston College. I wish Landry would have declared for the draft

There are other options around #28 depending on how things shake out for RDE but you know how the draft process and combine can take players out of reach.

This is precisely why we need to address the issue in the draft and to some degree beyond the dumpster bin in free agency.

Shame about Landry!

 

[theogt]

Our Scouts foolishly that Demarcus Lawrence can play RDE when his numbers showed he was very slow,I would only consider quick twitch RDEs for the first Rd and we can eliminate Walker from the list.I like Thomas and Takkarist McKinley but Thomas wont be available at 28.I am onboard with a trade up to get our guy because we need speed at DE because all our DEs are slow.

When Lawrence was drafted the intent was to play him at LDE. That said, I never liked him even as a LDE. He's just not talented in any respect.

 

[WeaponX]

When Lawrence was drafted the intent was to play him at LDE. That said, I never liked him even as a LDE. He's just not talented in any respect.

DLaw was not drafted to play LDE. He was 6'3" 250 at the time of draft and we moved up and drafted him to replace Ware as our top pass rusher. He didn't move to the strong side until we signed Hardy and drafted an even better (on paper) WDE in Randy's Gregory last year. He only moved back to the right side this year out of necessity.

 

[Yuma Cactus]

Takk McKinley is my early Pet Cat.

 

[Killerinstinct]

Takk McKinley is my early Pet Cat.

Mine too. Takk seems to be what we need. Quick edge rusher. Disrupts opposing offenses. I hope he is there at 28

 

[Oh_Canada]

Get one of:

Harris
McKinley
Charlton
Thomas
Willis

 

[jaybeware]

Mine too. Takk seems to be what we need. Quick edge rusher. Disrupts opposing offenses. I hope he is there at 28

agreed

 

[CapnCook]

Harris - fast and smart. Hungry for a backfield buffet. RKG...

"As far as his character is concerned, he is someone coaches will love. He is a hard worker that usually flies to the football with a particular tenacity when closing in on it. He gives great effort, although there are times you see it drop when he is initially neutralized. Still, he is passionate about being great and contemplated joining the Marines out of high school prior to getting recruited for football."

http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Draft-Scouting-Reports/Scouting-Report-Charles-Harris.asp

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Around #28 players like Takk McKinley, Lawson and Harris may be available depending on how the draft process goes and how the picks shape out!

My favorites that are out of our range are Myles, Allen and Thomas and I do like Barnett as well.

McKinley and Harris are my favorites in our possible range!

This in bold. Takk and Dak....

 

[Plankton]

I think Jordan Willis is underrated, and would be great in Round 2. For the first round targets, I would be fine with Charles Harris. Missouri has done a great job with developing linemen (Aldon Smith, Sheldon Richardson, Shane Ray, Markus Golden have all shown that they can play at a high (pun intended) level in the NFL). Lawson's injury history is a concern. Not a fan of Charlton.