So when is Claiborne supposed to practice?

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I just don't see anything that Mo has done last year or this years TC to say he is going to have a big year. He has poor coverage skills and tackling skills. Just another really good college player that finds the NFL to big for them. Wish it wasn't this way but his portfolio of work in the NFL proves it beyond a doubt, if one is honest with themselves they can see it.

I think Claiborne is an excellent young player and I think he will prove that. Your scouting report sure does not jive with the professional scouts I guess we will find out.
 

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I just don't see anything that Mo has done last year or this years TC to say he is going to have a big year. He has poor coverage skills and tackling skills. Just another really good college player that finds the NFL to big for them. Wish it wasn't this way but his portfolio of work in the NFL proves it beyond a doubt, if one is honest with themselves they can see it.

This is not based in reality and has troll written all over it.
 

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This is either over the top coddling, or not a "thump on the knee".

This would not be happening if Parcells were the coach. That much I'm sure of.

Wonder what Kiffin thinks about this. I bet it's like Ratliff -- Jerry and Stephen may say no problem, but I bet the DC doesn't like that he's missing all these reps.
 

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This would not be happening if Parcells were the coach. That much I'm sure of.

Wonder what Kiffin thinks about this. I bet it's like Ratliff -- Jerry and Stephen may say no problem, but I bet the DC doesn't like that he's missing all these reps.

I agree, Parcells wanted a tough physical team an would flip out if a player missed that much time unless they were seriously injured. I miss having a hard nosed coach here, I wish we could have a young version of Parcells coaching the team.
 

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Parcells really made tough guys out of Barbie Carpenter and Jacob Rogers.

Parcells forced Peterman back into a game after he injured his knee. The result was that Peterman completely blew out the knee on the next play.
 

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Parcells really made tough guys out of Barbie Carpenter and Jacob Rogers.

Parcells forced Peterman back into a game after he injured his knee. The result was that Peterman completely blew out the knee on the next play.

Not saying he was perfect but the man also won a couple Super Bowls so I think he was a pretty good coach overall. Now the older worn down version we got wasn't nearly as good but I would rather take chances and have a tough team over a camp cupcake.
 

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Not saying he was perfect but the man also won a couple Super Bowls so I think he was a pretty good coach overall. Now the older worn down version we got wasn't nearly as good but I would rather take chances and have a tough team over a camp cupcake.

Without knowing the true condition of the players who have missed time I'm not sure anyone here is in a position to praise or condem. It is foolish to put a guy on the field if he is injured and risk futher injury. Yes we could get a player back out quickly off a hamstring injury but then you very well could see it being a nagging injury all season long instead of giving it rest while they can. BP main rule was if you don't practice you don't play and thus far guys who have missed practice have not played.
 

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Without knowing the true condition of the players who have missed time I'm not sure anyone here is in a position to praise or condem. It is foolish to put a guy on the field if he is injured and risk futher injury. Yes we could get a player back out quickly off a hamstring injury but then you very well could see it being a nagging injury all season long instead of giving it rest while they can. BP main rule was if you don't practice you don't play and thus far guys who have missed practice have not played.

There has to be a balance between coddling a player and playing through minor injuries and risking a players health. Jason Witten never misses practice and played during the season with an injured spleen and I don't doubt has played and practiced with a lot of injuries. My opinion is Parcells would be very vocal about the time missed and would make things uncomfortable for anyone missing time which I haven't seen with Garrett.
 

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There has to be a balance between coddling a player and playing through minor injuries and risking a players health. Jason Witten never misses practice and played during the season with an injured spleen and I don't doubt has played and practiced with a lot of injuries. My opinion is Parcells would be very vocal about the time missed and would make things uncomfortable for anyone missing time which I haven't seen with Garrett.

I agree there has to be a balance problem is we as fans do not have the information of the trainers to know what that balance is with any of the players.

As for Witten he is tough but yes he was held out of practice with the injury but as you mentioned did not miss any games.

I know especially with things like hamstrings they can become a constant problem throughout a season even if the player in on the field the negative effects of the injury is enough to slow even the best players down.

Andrea Johnson in Houston tried to play with it he was nowhere close to the player he normally is the only thing you can do is rest that hamstring, come regular season it becomes very hard to rest it.

I want these guys back but as a fan I'm in no position because I don't have the information of the trainers to know who should be sitting out right now and who should be playing.
 

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I agree there has to be a balance problem is we as fans do not have the information of the trainers to know what that balance is with any of the players.

As for Witten he is tough but yes he was held out of practice with the injury but as you mentioned did not miss any games.

I know especially with things like hamstrings they can become a constant problem throughout a season even if the player in on the field the negative effects of the injury is enough to slow even the best players down.

Andrea Johnson in Houston tried to play with it he was nowhere close to the player he normally is the only thing you can do is rest that hamstring, come regular season it becomes very hard to rest it.

I want these guys back but as a fan I'm in no position because I don't have the information of the trainers to know who should be sitting out right now and who should be playing.

You're right that we don't have the information and all we can do is speculate but Claiborne was called out by Stephen Jones in the past for not practicing so although it is just speculation there is reasonable cause to question how bad his injury is.
 

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You're right that we don't have the information and all we can do is speculate but Claiborne was called out by Stephen Jones in the past for not practicing so although it is just speculation there is reasonable cause to question how bad his injury is.

He did work out and the knee swelled, he now has worked out this week and the knee is responding without swelling. It is the coaches call to put him out there and at least for this upcoming game that does not appear to be happening.
 

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This would not be happening if Parcells were the coach. That much I'm sure of.

Wonder what Kiffin thinks about this. I bet it's like Ratliff -- Jerry and Stephen may say no problem, but I bet the DC doesn't like that he's missing all these reps.

Trainer to Parcells - "Kicker can't make it out to warm up."

Parcells: "Why!?"

Trainer: "He's got stomach flu."

Parcells: "Yeah? Well, he don't kick with his stomach."

True story. When he was with the Giants.
 

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This is either over the top coddling, or not a "thump on the knee".

Yeah, it's been mentioned above, but this was tendonitis. He's reportedly doing a lot better here late in the week. It doesn't sound like a significant setback or something that's going to spill over to the season.

I just don't see anything that Mo has done last year or this years TC to say he is going to have a big year. He has poor coverage skills and tackling skills. Just another really good college player that finds the NFL to big for them. Wish it wasn't this way but his portfolio of work in the NFL proves it beyond a doubt, if one is honest with themselves they can see it.

Lolwut? He's got great coverage skills and is a willing tackler. He had a good season last season despite missing a lot of camp, and has been going toe-toe with Dez this offseason and certainly has Dez' respect, and the quotes to prove it. I think you've just badly misread the portfolio of his work in the NFL and simply arrived at the wrong conclusion.
 

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With the Cowboys installing a new defensive scheme Claiborne isn't going to be sharp for opening day missing all this time. Eli and the Giants will go right after him.
 

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With the Cowboys installing a new defensive scheme Claiborne isn't going to be sharp for opening day missing all this time. Eli and the Giants will go right after him.

He hasn't really missed all that much time. And he's been covering Dez all through camp. They may go after him, but that doesn't mean they'll be successful.
 

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He hasn't really missed all that much time. And he's been covering Dez all through camp. They may go after him, but that doesn't mean they'll be successful.

He jammed his knee on Aug 6th and is missing valuable install time in the new defense. He's a young developing player so missing practice and preseason games with a new defensive scheme to learn is reason for concern opening day. Even then his knee may not be 100% so I expect the Giants to go after him. Doesn't mean they'll be successful but they'll certainly test him.
 

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He jammed his knee on Aug 6th and is missing valuable install time in the new defense. He's a young developing player so missing practice and preseason games with a new defensive scheme to learn is reason for concern opening day. Even then his knee may not be 100% so I expect the Giants to go after him. Doesn't mean they'll be successful but they'll certainly test him.

His role at CB has consisted of man and zone coverage it is not that hard for him to get up to speed.
 

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Surely it has to be something more than knee tendonitis, I think its a little more than they are letting on. Yes, I wish he could practise more, but I still want him out there game 1. He missed most of last years camp after wrist surgery, now has missed the second half of this camp - don't think he will have the break out season some see for him. Will be good, not great. But a # 6 pick had better be great year 3 ...
 
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