So Who Are We Trading?

[DBoys]

Coleman is a good depth DE in the 3-4, if only because he is really good against the run. He's been on our roster a while now. It just so happens that we are stacked at his position with guys who are both good against the run AND can actually pressure the backfield as well.

I could see a team like SF biting on Coleman.

As far as Shanle, I have received word that we are trading him for Richard Seymour.

Are you serious? Or is your word rom the answer hahahahahhahaha

 

[Crown Royal]

Are you serious?

Which part? The Shanle/Seymour comment refers to a ludicrous claim made by one of our board members who is overrating Shanle's ability. It would never happen.

Further, I don't see how it would help us, unless we planned on the strading Seymour again for something really nice, since we have much younger, equally capable prospects already at DE on our roster.

 

[arglebargle]

Another reason a team might want to trade: New Orleans is sitting second in the waiver position right now, and their coaching staff knows our players real well. Anyone good who goes through the waiver wire will be subject to getting snagged by the Saints. So if you are looking for someone young, trading is much more sure. I still expect a LB or two of ours to end up there.

 

[AdamJT13]

I agree - he is setting seeds, but he won't trade during TC. It'll be the first few weeks of the season.

From Parcells' hints during Monday's press conference, it sounds like Shanle and/or Coleman could be traded within "a week or two."

From InmanRoshi's recap --

Why did you start Shanle and Coleman?
I wanted them to be in the game. I don't want to answer that question right now. I'll tell you in a week or two. That was a bad answer, wasn't it? I don't want to tell you something that's not true, but ... I guess its no secret.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I would be surprised if we make a trade this week....

 

[ZeroClub]

At some point, you get what you pay for.

I wonder how much the Cowboys can help themselves if their spending limit is Shanle and/or Coleman.

 

[kmd24]

Here are the Saints recievers:

15 Lyman, Chase WR 6-4 210 23 2 California
81 Horn, Chris WR 5-11 195 29 3 Rocky Mountain College
83 Stallworth, Donte' WR 6-0 196 25 5 Tennessee
84 Lewis, Michael WR 5-8 173 34 6 None
87 Horn, Joe WR 6-1 213 34 11 Itawamba (Miss.) JC
19 Henderson, Devery WR 5-11 200 24 3 Louisiana State
12 Colston, Marques WR 6-4 231 23 R Hofstra
18 Hass, Mike WR 6-1 209 23 R Oregon State
16 Moore, Lance WR 5-9 177 22 1 Toledo
89 Jones, Jamal WR 5-11 205 25 1 North Carolina A&T
13 Johnson, Bethel WR 5-11 200 27 4 Texas A&M


Really only Chase Lyman and Marques Colston stand out as viable prospects.

I think the Saints keep Joe Horn, Stallworth, Henderson, and Bethel Johnson for sure. Seems like Mike Haas has been having a pretty good preseason, so I think he sticks as well. That leaves all but one (or maybe all) of the rest to be cut. I could be wrong on these projections, but I think I'm pretty close.

Lyman has a history of injuries, including two left ACL tears, the second of which sidelined him for his rookie season (2005). He displayed pretty good speed after his first rehab (4.46 at the 2005 combine).

Marques Colston is another big guy that ran a 4.55. He's from Hofstra, so he's probably on BP's radar. Undoubtedly this kid is raw.

Anyway, I think Lyman and Colston are the kinds of players you are looking at in a trade for guys who aren't going to make the cut. I'm not sure that either of these guys could climb above Copper, Hurd, Green, or Rector in the depth chart in the limited time they would have to do it. I'm pretty sure Shanle (for example) would stick at LB for the Saints, though.

 

[onetrickpony]

See, I think the only way we trade anyone is if we find a way to put them on the 53, or at least the cut before. If a team knows we are cutting them, why are they trading them? I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that they stay on the final cuts, just to be traded.

Whoever you trade them for (unless it is a draft pick) has to be good enough to make the cuts as well, no?

Cuts have to be placed on the waiver wire. You might want to trade for a player who is going to be cut if that player is likely to be taken by another team before he gets to you.

Generally speaking, teams with worse records from the previous season have first dibs in players who are cut. Trades bypass the waiver system.