So who does Dallas NOT extend in 08 and 09?

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If Dallas extended every starter that will be an UFA, no current starter would be playing under their rookie contract. Despite the lofty cap availability, I doubt any team can manage the cap without a couple of players in its starting lineup that are still playing under their rookie contracts when they are less expensive. So here is the list:

08:
Flozell Adams (UFA)- key guy-can Free or Mcquinstin do the job?
Ken Hamlin (UFA)- another key guy, but can you pay two safties big bucks?
Keith Davis (UFA)-not a starter. Probably not a luxury this team can afford.
Jacques Reeves (UFA)- If he commands anything near what Crayton got, let him go.....draft his replacement. He's not a starter.
Nate Jones (UFA)-He's the type of guy you replace with a rookie.....not always because the rook is better, but becuase the rook costs MUCH less.
Julius Jones (UFA)-gone

09:
Terrell Owens (UFA)- He's going to be expensive.......but we need him if he can play near his current level.
Marc Colombo (UFA)- I think Dallas may have to choose THIS year between Flo and the younger Colombo. I don't think both will fit under the cap.
Terence Newman (UFA)- He's going to cost a lot of jack
Kevin Burnett (UFA)-He's a darn good player. He needs to take Akin's job so Dallas can cut or trade Akin and slot Burnett into his salary, or maybe a little more.
Tank Johnson (UFA)-We'll see, but nice backup for next year.
Barber (UFA)-Keeper
Canty (UFA)-see below

RFA's don't break the bank unless you extend them. No RFA is going anywhere unless Dallas doesn't want them. I don't see a right answer, but here are my thoughts:

-Sign Hamlin unless the number is outragous. Pass D is at a premium and he could be SS in a couple of years. Draft another safety on day one. If Roy doesn't play better next year cut him, move Hamlin to SS and let Watkins/draft pick play FS.
-Sign Flo or franchise him unless the coaches are VERY confident in Mcquinston/Free. Dallas plans on making a run next year and LT isn't an area you can afford to be weak. If Flo wants more than 3 years, Franchise him.
-TO has to be extened unless a true #1 is acquired via FA/Trade (not gonna happen that fast via the draft). Then we cross our fingers he can continue at a high level for another 3 yrs.
-Columbo depends on Flo. If Flo is franchised, somone should be ready by 09 to replace him. If Flo gets extened, Columbo needs to be replaced by one of the young guys.....personally, I think I'm in favor of franchising Flo and keeping the younger Columbo long term.
-Newman has to be signed.
-For the record, I like Burnett and hope he takes Akin's job in 08.
-Barber-Keep him, find a backup to platoon.
-Canty- He's going to be expensive and rightfully so. By the time Dallas re-ups the players above how much cap room will be left? Let's not forget Ware will be an UFA in 2010 and he MUST be resigned. With cheaper alternatives like Bowen, Spears, Tank and Hatcher available, Dallas could draft somone to add to the rotation this year and let Canty go in 2009. I'm not knocking Canty, I just think its easier to plug in somone on the DL rather than the OL, while guys like TO, Newman, Ware, Barber are must resignes....
 

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TO will be 36 next year. We'll be lucky to get one more year out of him. But to expect 3 more productive years is not realistic.

Get his replacement in this year through the draft. He'll be ready to play when TO moves on in 09.
 

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I think Hamlin and Davis will both be gone next year. Hamlin will get some big money somewhere and Davis will get a starting job offer IMO.
 

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Eddie;1861740 said:
TO will be 36 next year. We'll be lucky to get one more year out of him. But to expect 3 more productive years is not realistic.
He might be 36 years old, but his body is that of a younger man. I can see him playing at the high level he is now for another 2-3 years easily.
 

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Eddie;1861740 said:
TO will be 36 next year. We'll be lucky to get one more year out of him. But to expect 3 more productive years is not realistic.

Get his replacement in this year through the draft. He'll be ready to play when TO moves on in 09.

Not that its a big difference, but Owens just turned 34 on Dec. 07,2007.. So he'll be 35 next season or at least about the time the regular season is over.
 

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Dayton_Cowboy;1861765 said:
Not that its a big difference, but Owens just turned 34 on Dec. 07,2007.. So he'll be 35 next season or at least about the time the regular season is over.

Either way, we better have a contingency plan ready. If he's still playing at a high level at age 50, then hell yeah. Good for us. If he hits the wall next year, then we better have a young WR ready to step up ... and I'm not talking about Austin or Hurd.
 

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Eddie;1861740 said:
TO will be 36 next year. We'll be lucky to get one more year out of him. But to expect 3 more productive years is not realistic.

Get his replacement in this year through the draft. He'll be ready to play when TO moves on in 09.

Lucky? LOL

He led the league in just about every category this year... only Moss has more TD's. Not bad for an older guy thats fading and should all of a sudden STOP being productive :rolleyes:



Dayton_Cowboy;1861765 said:
Not that its a big difference, but Owens just turned 34 on Dec. 07,2007.. So he'll be 35 next season or at least about the time the regular season is over.

He plays alot younger.
I say keep paying him until he cant produce no mo'
 

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Jerry isn't going to let Hamlin go anywhere. It's tough to pay two safeties big money, but you have to pay the one that actually makes your secondary work...Hamlin WILL be resigned.

I'm willing to bet Hamlin is a more important signing than Flozell at this point.

I believe they'll both be resigned...I also believe Reeves will be resigned when the time comes...he's a starting caliber CB on the cheap...he certainly has the speed and ball awareness to make it as a very good #2 CB in the future.
 

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Eddie;1861740 said:
TO will be 36 next year. We'll be lucky to get one more year out of him. But to expect 3 more productive years is not realistic.

Get his replacement in this year through the draft. He'll be ready to play when TO moves on in 09.

Jerry Rice was extremely productive in his late 30's.

I think T.O. can give at least 1-2 good seasons still. As long as he takes care of his body.

But I do see your p oint.
 

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Eddie;1861740 said:
TO will be 36 next year. We'll be lucky to get one more year out of him. But to expect 3 more productive years is not realistic.

Get his replacement in this year through the draft. He'll be ready to play when TO moves on in 09.

I understand your concerns and share them as well. Its a calculated risk. But I don't see much choice unless Dallas goes out and signs a #1 WR (Roy Williams, Fitz) in 09 or trades for one this year. I doubt any drafted WR will be ready to step in as a legit #1 in 09. Given the fact this team is a legit contender NOW, my feeling this is a calculated risk that Dallas must take.
 

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noletime95;1861734 said:
Jacques Reeves (UFA)- If he commands anything near what Crayton got, let him go.....draft his replacement. He's not a starter.

What can you say...wow.

Still no respect for Reeves? :mad:

The Kid ranks 4th or 5th in team tackles, starts 12 games, starts nick package, 1 INT, 11 PD's..but still not good enough for ya?

What more do you think a first year Starter should do? :cool:
 

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eduncan22;1861863 said:
What can you say...wow.

Still no respect for Reeves? :mad:

The Kid ranks 4th or 5th in team tackles, starts 12 games, starts nick package, 1 INT, 11 PD's..but still not good enough for ya?

What more do you think a first year Starter should do? :cool:

Yet Anthony Henry starts only 9 games (due to injury) and still has more passes defended (13) and 6 times the amount of interceptions (6)

And you give him no respect.

Dunce is too kind of a description for you.
 

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eduncan22;1861863 said:
What can you say...wow.

Still no respect for Reeves? :mad:

The Kid ranks 4th or 5th in team tackles, starts 12 games, starts nick package, 1 INT, 11 PD's..but still not good enough for ya?

What more do you think a first year Starter should do? :cool:

Reeves has done a nice job this year considering what's been asked of him and if Dallas can retain him for something in the $1-!.5 Mil/year range I'd be fine with that. That's not a lack of respect, just my perception of what he's worth as a 3rd CB. This is Reeves 4th year in the NFL. Even though he's a first year starter, I think we're seeing something a lot closer to his ceiling than if he were a 1st or 2nd year player.

Bottom line is I think Dallas needs to draft Henry's replacement........because I don't believe it is Reeves. That said if Dallas signes him to a $3 Mil/year contract and he proves he's worth it, I'd be happy to be wrong. To be honest, if Dallas were in a better position at WR for the long term (i.e. with TO and Glenn being on the downside of their careers) I would have been ok letting Crayton test the FA waters.
 

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I'm more and more inclined to believe that Adams will not be resigned... he'll just be too expensive.

Ferguson will most likely be cut and Glenn will retire or be cut also.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1862001 said:
I'm more and more inclined to believe that Adams will not be resigned... he'll just be too expensive.

Ferguson will most likely be cut and Glenn will retire or be cut also.

No way do we cut glenn. i would really hate that.. But i also don't think we are gonna be able to keep FLO , what a loss..
 

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I'm pretty sure with Dallas' cap number that they can re-sign all of the FA's if they want to (contrary to what the boobs are reporting are ESPN, PFT, etc., etc). Dallas has plenty of cap room.

However, I think where good teams go bad is that they wind up getting rid of or losing key players. And if they keep those players around, then they fail to actually *improve* and change the team. It's pretty likely that other teams like the Eagles, Commanders, and Giants are not going to rest on their laurels and make some improvements and adjustments to beat Dallas. It's Jones' job to do the same.

As far as FA's go, the only players I'd be unwilling to sign are Julius and Keith Davis. Dallas should be able to find a guy to replace Julius in the draft and given Davis' main duties, perhaps find somebody to replace him that doesn't even need to be drafted. Now, it doesn't mean that it will be done and it's important to find replacements, but it means finding their replacements *should* happen.

I'd be leery on re-signing Owens and Glenn given their age. Flo could be franchised, which would give him the money he wants w/o making Dallas give up a long term committment. I think if Dallas can save sign these guys up smartly, then they should have ample cap space for FA and possibly get a guy like Lance Briggs and have him replace Ayodele.




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MichaelWinicki;1862001 said:
I'm more and more inclined to believe that Adams will not be resigned... he'll just be too expensive.

Ferguson will most likely be cut and Glenn will retire or be cut also.
I'm still 50/50 on Flo. Depends on the minimum he will take.

Fergy and Glenn are locks to be goners IMO.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1862001 said:
I'm more and more inclined to believe that Adams will not be resigned... he'll just be too expensive.

Ferguson will most likely be cut and Glenn will retire or be cut also.

I believe that Flo will be franchised for next year, as for Glenn and Henry I think both are Ex-Cowboys shortly.
 
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