So who does Dallas NOT extend in 08 and 09?

[theogt]

TO will be 36 next year.

TO will be 34 for most of next season.

 

[noletime95]

Glenn got a pretty substantial roster bonus in the off season and I'm pretty sure it got pro-rated. As a result, I'm not certain Dallas would actually save any cap dollars by cutting Glenn. Anybody have that information (Adam)?

Obviously, if Glenn chooses to retire or is simply ineffective, he'd move on regardless of cap implications....

 

[windward]

TO will be 36 next year. We'll be lucky to get one more year out of him. But to expect 3 more productive years is not realistic.

Get his replacement in this year through the draft. He'll be ready to play when TO moves on in 09.

He will be 35 at the end of the year. the year right now is 2007 not 2008 or 2009

 

[Woods]

Worst case we can always franchise Flo for 1 year.

That gives more time for Free/McQuisten to develop. Or, if the brass at Valley Ranch don't feel that either of those two guys can cut it, we can use one of our top picks and draft an OT - and then give that guy a year to develop.

Our unrestricted FAs are basically Flo, Hamlin, Davis, and Reeves.

If we sign Hamlin to a long-term contract (he's only around 26 yrs old), worst case franchise Flo, we can always ugrade Davis and Reeves in the Draft, if necessary.

That shouldn't be Mission Impossible.

 

[noletime95]

Worst case we can always franchise Flo for 1 year.

That gives more time for Free/McQuisten to develop. Or, if the brass at Valley Ranch don't feel that either of those two guys can cut it, we can use one of our top picks and draft an OT - and then give that guy a year to develop.

Our unrestricted FAs are basically Flo, Hamlin, Davis, and Reeves.

If we sign Hamlin to a long-term contract (he's only around 26 yrs old), worst case franchise Flo, we can always ugrade Davis and Reeves in the Draft, if necessary.

That shouldn't be Mission Impossible.

I think we could do whatever we want this year and be fine....I'm worried about 08/09 with the likes of Newman, Canty and Barber becoming UFA's with Ware on the horizon the year after. If Dallas wants, it could make another 2-3 year run, keep everybody and even add a couple pieces. However, it would need to be prepared for cap hell/cutting players in 2-3 yrs. All these good players is a good problem, but presents a challenge when making tough choices.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Yeah I was about to say Owens will be 35 next year not 36.

 

[the kid 05]

If Dallas extended every starter that will be an UFA, no current starter would be playing under their rookie contract. Despite the lofty cap availability, I doubt any team can manage the cap without a couple of players in its starting lineup that are still playing under their rookie contracts when they are less expensive. So here is the list:

08:
Flozell Adams (UFA)- key guy-can Free or Mcquinstin do the job?
Ken Hamlin (UFA)- another key guy, but can you pay two safties big bucks?
Keith Davis (UFA)-not a starter. Probably not a luxury this team can afford.
Jacques Reeves (UFA)- If he commands anything near what Crayton got, let him go.....draft his replacement. He's not a starter.
Nate Jones (UFA)-He's the type of guy you replace with a rookie.....not always because the rook is better, but becuase the rook costs MUCH less.
Julius Jones (UFA)-gone

09:
Terrell Owens (UFA)- He's going to be expensive.......but we need him if he can play near his current level.
Marc Colombo (UFA)- I think Dallas may have to choose THIS year between Flo and the younger Colombo. I don't think both will fit under the cap.
Terence Newman (UFA)- He's going to cost a lot of jack
Kevin Burnett (UFA)-He's a darn good player. He needs to take Akin's job so Dallas can cut or trade Akin and slot Burnett into his salary, or maybe a little more.
Tank Johnson (UFA)-We'll see, but nice backup for next year.
Barber (UFA)-Keeper
Canty (UFA)-see below

RFA's don't break the bank unless you extend them. No RFA is going anywhere unless Dallas doesn't want them. I don't see a right answer, but here are my thoughts:

-Sign Hamlin unless the number is outragous. Pass D is at a premium and he could be SS in a couple of years. Draft another safety on day one. If Roy doesn't play better next year cut him, move Hamlin to SS and let Watkins/draft pick play FS.
-Sign Flo or franchise him unless the coaches are VERY confident in Mcquinston/Free. Dallas plans on making a run next year and LT isn't an area you can afford to be weak. If Flo wants more than 3 years, Franchise him.
-TO has to be extened unless a true #1 is acquired via FA/Trade (not gonna happen that fast via the draft). Then we cross our fingers he can continue at a high level for another 3 yrs.
-Columbo depends on Flo. If Flo is franchised, somone should be ready by 09 to replace him. If Flo gets extened, Columbo needs to be replaced by one of the young guys.....personally, I think I'm in favor of franchising Flo and keeping the younger Columbo long term.
-Newman has to be signed.
-For the record, I like Burnett and hope he takes Akin's job in 08.
-Barber-Keep him, find a backup to platoon.
-Canty- He's going to be expensive and rightfully so. By the time Dallas re-ups the players above how much cap room will be left? Let's not forget Ware will be an UFA in 2010 and he MUST be resigned. With cheaper alternatives like Bowen, Spears, Tank and Hatcher available, Dallas could draft somone to add to the rotation this year and let Canty go in 2009. I'm not knocking Canty, I just think its easier to plug in somone on the DL rather than the OL, while guys like TO, Newman, Ware, Barber are must resignes....

a certain member is going to be arms up when he reads that :laugh2:

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Worst case we can always franchise Flo for 1 year.

Until I see what the actual cap number is I'm not going to say that Adams will be franchised. According to one set of numbers the amount left, after the Crayton contract, and after setting aside $5 mil for draft picks and offers to unrestricted, is only in the low teens. You fork over $8 mil to Adams and there isn't much left in order to extend guys next year like Newman-- and don't look now but Ware's contract is on the horizon.

We can add a few more mil by cutting Ferguson and Glenn, which I think is very likely.

 

[Ren]

I hope we resign Hamlin

 

[soccerbud]

I hope we resign Hamlin

bob sanders just got a 5 year $37.5 million contact.
And i can see Hamlin asking for similar numbers($25-$30 million).

 

[big dog cowboy]

bob sanders just got a 5 year $37.5 million contact.
And i can see Hamlin asking for similar numbers($25-$30 million).

Sanders > Hamlin

It isn't close.

Stephen will at Hamlin if he asks for that much money.

 

[Hoofbite]

What can you say...wow.

Still no respect for Reeves?

The Kid ranks 4th or 5th in team tackles, starts 12 games, starts nick package, 1 INT, 11 PD's..but still not good enough for ya?

What more do you think a first year Starter should do?

He only has tackles because hes thrown at so damn much.

And he starts because other players are hurt.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

bob sanders just got a 5 year $37.5 million contact.
And i can see Hamlin asking for similar numbers($25-$30 million).

He can ask but no way should he get that amount.

Don't get me wrong... the guy has been good. But Darren Woodson he ain't. I'd offer him a little more than half of what Sanders received. Maybe $22 mil over 5 years with $8 mil guaranteed.

 

[Derinyar]

He can ask but no way should he get that amount.

Don't get me wrong... the guy has been good. But Darren Woodson he ain't. I'd offer him a little more than half of what Sanders received. Maybe $22 mil over 5 years with $8 mil guaranteed.

I was figuring the obvious thing to look at is Roy's contract. You probably have to offer that to Hamlin.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I was figuring the obvious thing to look at is Roy's contract. You probably have to offer that to Hamlin.

You may be right. But I just can't see them breaking the bank to resign Hamlin, not with the amount of coin wrapped up in the secondary already and the need to extend Newman's contract next year.

 

[eduncan22]

You may be right. But I just can't see them breaking the bank to resign Hamlin, not with the amount of coin wrapped up in the secondary already and the need to extend Newman's contract next year.

I could see Hamlin being offered a 2-3 year deal.

Doesn't he have a concussion history?

It seemed that Dallas was priming Watkins to take this job, but Hamlin's Pro Bowl "throws a wrench" into everything.

 

[Ren]

I was figuring the obvious thing to look at is Roy's contract. You probably have to offer that to Hamlin.

which begs the question, what would the cap hit be if we cut R.. nvm

 

[noletime95]

which begs the question, what would the cap hit be if we cut R.. nvm

Looks like Dallas would lose around $700K by cutting Williams against the cap in 08, or if it waited until after June, Dallas could save around $3.7 Mil (Adam please correct me if I'm off).

 

[btcutter]

I believe that Flo will be franchised for next year, as for Glenn and Henry I think both are Ex-Cowboys shortly.

It would be idiotic to let Henry go. It's too hard to find decent CB and it would cost a fortune to find one in the FA. If for nothing else, Henry would be my FS at some point in his career. He's a ballhawk when healthy. He has better ball tracking skills than Newman but without Newman's speed.

 

[soccerbud]

Sanders > Hamlin

It isn't close.

Stephen will at Hamlin if he asks for that much money.

Take last year's free agency into account, more likely than not, some other team will be willing to pony up that much for his service though