Sobering read - NFL and CTE

diefree666

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robbieruff said:
Very true. But players didn't get full disclosure from the league either. CTE findings were buried for years.
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if you are not smart enough to understand that constant collisions are bad for the brain then that is on you. I really do not have any sympathy for todays NFL players; or to be blunt the past ones either. They chose to play a violent game and make a living out of it. Whining about it now is BS.
 
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diefree666 said:
if you are not smart enough to understand that constant collisions are bad for the brain then that is on you. I really do not have any sympathy for todays NFL players; or to be blunt the past ones either. They chose to play a violent game and make a living out of it. Whining about it now is BS.
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Interesting perspective.
 
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I can feel sorry for them but at the same time say nobody forced them to play. They did it because they loved the game.
 
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diefree666 said:
Yes. If you can't handle the truth don't ask the question.
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Oh I can handle pretty much everything, my friend...including you're fallacious and faulty logic.

Based on your absolutist view of the world, then, let me paint you a scenario: say you get into a good-paying but "potentially treacherous" job in construction, for example. You know going in that the role is fraught with danger...dudes have broken bones, fallen from high places and been disabled, and even killed in that line of work. And of course you know this going in and choose to do it anyways (buyer beware and taking FULL PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY). NOW let's say that the construction company for years took on projects where they held back information about some OTHER key risk involved...one of a more clandestine nature, such as asbestos exposure. They had done study after study on the issue and knew very much about this particular risk involved in exposing workers to this contagion but they said/did nothing...or worse yet they downplayed it when you began complaining of mysterious symptoms simply saying "quit your belly aching and get back in there and sacrifice for the sake of the company...you big coward, you don't hear your co-workers complaining!" Or something to that effect...later on in life you realize your fate of living out the rest of your days in chronic illness...an invalid destined to die a premature death. This is tantamount to the situation we're discussing now concerning the league and what they have apparently willfully hidden from the players for MANY years. Sure, there are many risks about the vocation that are self-evident and plain to see, but there may be something else much more sinister below the surface that the league has only begun to acknowledge as to avoid responsibility - and that is the LEAGUE's personal responsibility and not solely the individual's.

Unless you're of the asinine belief that the individual in my scenario should've been able to detect the contagions, too...smh.

Oh...and former PLAYERS completely disagree with you, too.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/health/nfl-cte-scroggins-lawsuit/index.html

And since the league has already paid some 3/4 of a billion dollars in settlements out over this issue (not even including the institutional abuses over pain killers and other misdeeds carried out on players), apparently the personal responsibility argument isn't working out too well for the NFL, either...smh again.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-agree-to-765m-settlement-in-concussions-suit
 
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What about boxing? MMA?
Also the cte issues start in pee wee
league's HS. And colleges.
It isn't just NFL.
 
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A lot of people are walking around with CTE who never played football. These studies have too much predetermined narrative.
 
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bigbob said:
What about boxing? MMA?
Also the cte issues start in pee wee
league's HS. And colleges.
It isn't just NFL.
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Agreed. We are not talking about all the ways it happens, but the way the league swept its findings under the rug when they knew unequivocally it was an issue.
 
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erod said:
Alzheimer's is rampant among the general populace. So is diabetes and depression. Neither were this common 100 years ago.
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Oh so you blame explosion of CTE among NFL players and others in their general population due to some other external cause? What - cellphone use?!

And stomach cancer was the number one killer in the 19th century in the US due to high consumptions of salted meats. What's the hecks your point? That diseases come and go and we have no clue to why? Perhaps diagnosis has simply gotten better??? Please...
 
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robbieruff said:
Agreed. We are not talking about all the ways it happens, but the way the league swept its findings under the rug when they knew unequivocally it was an issue.
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Well they did do that but that's in the past.
I think it is accumulated and there Are
Other factor's that would make a player
More susceptible to having it.
Drugs alcohol peds nutrition etc may
all play a part.
Plus they are only looking at football
Player brains for cte and they need
to look at a variety of brains.
 
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