Some fans just don't get it

[mr.jameswoods]

As someone who is from Arizona, I have the "priviledge" of watching the Arizona Cardinals play on a regular basis. I'm impressed with Matt Leinart but even he is limited by the Cardinals offensive line namely their lack of a Left and Right tackle.

Today's game showed the same weakness. We are all so enamored with who is starting at QB, that we are missing the point that we can't protect anyone who starts. Yes, Romo is more mobile than Bledsoe but even he will struggle when we face better teams. We can mask this deficiency when we play the Texans and Titans of this league. However, when we face the better teams in the NFL, it doesn't who starts at QB for us. Ultimately, we are going to lose because we can't block the better teams in the NFL.

You guys crack me up and talk playoffs and maybe we might make the playoffs but we aren't doing any damage until we take our offensive line seriously. The Cardinals are a sad organization. They try to start guards at tackles and it's a joke. But when I see one of the leagues best teams do the same thing at times, I have to ask myself, what the heck is Jerry and Bill doing? Have they not merely looked to their hated rivals in Philadelphia to see how an offense can remain consistently powerful when their offensive tackles are its strength on an annual basis?

Offensive tackle is a delicate position and you can't just stick anyone there and we seem to do that every year as if the position can be remedied by sticking Joe Scrub at RT and having Parcells and his wonderful coaching turn him into this star. Sorry, it hasn't worked since Parcells has been here and it will never work.

We are not doing anything in the playoffs this year so wake up. If we want to compete then we need to take these positions seriously next season and bring some serious talent to the tackle position either through the draft, free agency, miraculous trade or whatever. Talk Bledsoe/Romo or whatever but it doesn't matter who starts at QB until we fix our OFFENSIVE TACKLES. Notice, I didn't say offensive line since that word has been a cliche. Instead, let's be a little more specific and realize we aren't going to win anything with scrubs as our tackles. I don't even think Flozell is that great either.

Yes, Romo was more mobile today but ultimately he was forced into bad decisions because he had no time to throw just like Bledsoe. Now, I'm not a Bledsoe apologist. Bledsoe has never stopped eyeing receivers since he has been a rookie and thus he has interception written all over him but even if we had Peyton Manning at QB, we would struggle because we can't protect our QB when facing the best teams in the NFL.

 

[Clove]

I agree with some of this. I totally agree with the tackle situation. Fasano, IMO, was a horrible pick and I thought so then, and nothings changed.
I actually like Fasano, but we could've found a Fasano type later on in the draft. We needed Tackles, and there were plenty there.

I know the Boys said they wanted Colledge, but you know what, he wasn't there so draft another Tackle. We could've gone after a couple of guys in Free Agency that were very good tackles, but we went after a couple of scrubbs in Kosier and Fabini.

I love defense, but we dipped to far into the defensive barrel this season, especially in the 3rd round. I actually do really like Hatcher, but we could've used some young Tackles and guards in both those rounds.

I don't know where we will go with Romo, but now is the time to find out. Bledsoe is NOT the answer, and if Bledsoe would've kept taking sacks tonight, chances are he would've fumbled a couple of them.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Ultimately, I feel a team can acquire any position if they are willing to make a sacrafice. If a team wants a quality tackle, then you offer some form of compensation to draft that tackle. The Eagles traded up to get one of the best tackles in the draft in Winston Justice so we don't really have an excuse. The explanation is simple in that we haven't really placed a priority in regards to the tackle position and have tried to get away with starting lesser talent.

We have neglected the tackle position for far too long and have applied a makeshift attitude. We just believe that we can draft or put anyone at the position and it will somehow work with the proper coaching when the reality is we need quality talent at the position.

 

[burmafrd]

I think McQ has the talent to be good. Put him in and find out. Flo is CLEARLY not fit- he is dragging that leg and limping when he WALKS. HOW in the WORLD do you expect him to play against the best?
Columbo has the talent- but remember he is still very inexperienced and has had little playing time untill this year since his rookie year. The crafty old vet Strahan just ate him up- the guy is a HOF so no wonder.

 

[lspain1]

The crafty old vet Strahan just ate him up- the guy is a HOF so no wonder.

Strahan looked anything but old last night....he was everywhere.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

you my fried get it. It does not matter who we put back there...other defenses are looking at this offensive line and salivating. We are an average team against GOOD teams. We have lost to EVERY good team we have played this year. We try to make it with rejects on the offensive line. The offensive line sets the entire tone for your team. It allows you to control tempo...rests your defense...throw when you want to and bleed clock. The RT from Auburn should have been a no brainer in my opinion. Fasano will NEVER produce like a 2nd round TE should produce. How many TEs are drafted that high? We are HEAVY at linebacker and this is the MOST predictable 3-4 I have EVER seen! The fact that we are throwing at the 2 yard line is all you need to know about this offensive line. If this staff was NOT SO ARCHAIC, you could use Romo inside the 5 yard line to create the dual threat of run/pass. But no, that would take creativity (sarcasm on).

 

[MichaelWinicki]

As someone who is from Arizona, I have the "priviledge" of watching the Arizona Cardinals play on a regular basis. I'm impressed with Matt Leinart but even he is limited by the Cardinals offensive line namely their lack of a Left and Right tackle.

Today's game showed the same weakness. We are all so enamored with who is starting at QB, that we are missing the point that we can't protect anyone who starts. Yes, Romo is more mobile than Bledsoe but even he will struggle when we face better teams. We can mask this deficiency when we play the Texans and Titans of this league. However, when we face the better teams in the NFL, it doesn't who starts at QB for us. Ultimately, we are going to lose because we can't block the better teams in the NFL.

You guys crack me up and talk playoffs and maybe we might make the playoffs but we aren't doing any damage until we take our offensive line seriously. The Cardinals are a sad organization. They try to start guards at tackles and it's a joke. But when I see one of the leagues best teams do the same thing at times, I have to ask myself, what the heck is Jerry and Bill doing? Have they not merely looked to their hated rivals in Philadelphia to see how an offense can remain consistently powerful when their offensive tackles are its strength on an annual basis?

Offensive tackle is a delicate position and you can't just stick anyone there and we seem to do that every year as if the position can be remedied by sticking Joe Scrub at RT and having Parcells and his wonderful coaching turn him into this star. Sorry, it hasn't worked since Parcells has been here and it will never work.

We are not doing anything in the playoffs this year so wake up. If we want to compete then we need to take these positions seriously next season and bring some serious talent to the tackle position either through the draft, free agency, miraculous trade or whatever. Talk Bledsoe/Romo or whatever but it doesn't matter who starts at QB until we fix our OFFENSIVE TACKLES. Notice, I didn't say offensive line since that word has been a cliche. Instead, let's be a little more specific and realize we aren't going to win anything with scrubs as our tackles. I don't even think Flozell is that great either.

Yes, Romo was more mobile today but ultimately he was forced into bad decisions because he had no time to throw just like Bledsoe. Now, I'm not a Bledsoe apologist. Bledsoe has never stopped eyeing receivers since he has been a rookie and thus he has interception written all over him but even if we had Peyton Manning at QB, we would struggle because we can't protect our QB when facing the best teams in the NFL.

Agreed.

And "no" this team is not going to the playoffs.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Nice post...and you are correct about of lack of quality OL play especially at the tackle spots.

 

[Martice]

As someone who is from Arizona, I have the "priviledge" of watching the Arizona Cardinals play on a regular basis. I'm impressed with Matt Leinart but even he is limited by the Cardinals offensive line namely their lack of a Left and Right tackle.

Today's game showed the same weakness. We are all so enamored with who is starting at QB, that we are missing the point that we can't protect anyone who starts. Yes, Romo is more mobile than Bledsoe but even he will struggle when we face better teams. We can mask this deficiency when we play the Texans and Titans of this league. However, when we face the better teams in the NFL, it doesn't who starts at QB for us. Ultimately, we are going to lose because we can't block the better teams in the NFL.

You guys crack me up and talk playoffs and maybe we might make the playoffs but we aren't doing any damage until we take our offensive line seriously. The Cardinals are a sad organization. They try to start guards at tackles and it's a joke. But when I see one of the leagues best teams do the same thing at times, I have to ask myself, what the heck is Jerry and Bill doing? Have they not merely looked to their hated rivals in Philadelphia to see how an offense can remain consistently powerful when their offensive tackles are its strength on an annual basis?

Offensive tackle is a delicate position and you can't just stick anyone there and we seem to do that every year as if the position can be remedied by sticking Joe Scrub at RT and having Parcells and his wonderful coaching turn him into this star. Sorry, it hasn't worked since Parcells has been here and it will never work.

We are not doing anything in the playoffs this year so wake up. If we want to compete then we need to take these positions seriously next season and bring some serious talent to the tackle position either through the draft, free agency, miraculous trade or whatever. Talk Bledsoe/Romo or whatever but it doesn't matter who starts at QB until we fix our OFFENSIVE TACKLES. Notice, I didn't say offensive line since that word has been a cliche. Instead, let's be a little more specific and realize we aren't going to win anything with scrubs as our tackles. I don't even think Flozell is that great either.

Yes, Romo was more mobile today but ultimately he was forced into bad decisions because he had no time to throw just like Bledsoe. Now, I'm not a Bledsoe apologist. Bledsoe has never stopped eyeing receivers since he has been a rookie and thus he has interception written all over him but even if we had Peyton Manning at QB, we would struggle because we can't protect our QB when facing the best teams in the NFL.

Agreed. Man Law? Man Law!!

 

[Dalmations202]

As someone who is from Arizona, I have the "priviledge" of watching the Arizona Cardinals play on a regular basis. I'm impressed with Matt Leinart but even he is limited by the Cardinals offensive line namely their lack of a Left and Right tackle.

Today's game showed the same weakness. We are all so enamored with who is starting at QB, that we are missing the point that we can't protect anyone who starts. Yes, Romo is more mobile than Bledsoe but even he will struggle when we face better teams. We can mask this deficiency when we play the Texans and Titans of this league. However, when we face the better teams in the NFL, it doesn't who starts at QB for us. Ultimately, we are going to lose because we can't block the better teams in the NFL.

You guys crack me up and talk playoffs and maybe we might make the playoffs but we aren't doing any damage until we take our offensive line seriously. The Cardinals are a sad organization. They try to start guards at tackles and it's a joke. But when I see one of the leagues best teams do the same thing at times, I have to ask myself, what the heck is Jerry and Bill doing? Have they not merely looked to their hated rivals in Philadelphia to see how an offense can remain consistently powerful when their offensive tackles are its strength on an annual basis?

Offensive tackle is a delicate position and you can't just stick anyone there and we seem to do that every year as if the position can be remedied by sticking Joe Scrub at RT and having Parcells and his wonderful coaching turn him into this star. Sorry, it hasn't worked since Parcells has been here and it will never work.

We are not doing anything in the playoffs this year so wake up. If we want to compete then we need to take these positions seriously next season and bring some serious talent to the tackle position either through the draft, free agency, miraculous trade or whatever. Talk Bledsoe/Romo or whatever but it doesn't matter who starts at QB until we fix our OFFENSIVE TACKLES. Notice, I didn't say offensive line since that word has been a cliche. Instead, let's be a little more specific and realize we aren't going to win anything with scrubs as our tackles. I don't even think Flozell is that great either.

Yes, Romo was more mobile today but ultimately he was forced into bad decisions because he had no time to throw just like Bledsoe. Now, I'm not a Bledsoe apologist. Bledsoe has never stopped eyeing receivers since he has been a rookie and thus he has interception written all over him but even if we had Peyton Manning at QB, we would struggle because we can't protect our QB when facing the best teams in the NFL.

I tend to agree here, but you need to include the guards as well. Too much pressure coming up the middle is also a problem. See Philly game.

 

[Pine Needle]

Yep.

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[burmafrd]

Columbo needs to be given more time- I think that Strahan would have eaten up any young inexperienced RT last night. Flo needs to sit since its CLEAR he is not PHYSICALLY fit enough to play against the best. Rivera needs to sit since he is done. Put in Proctor- if he does not work out then put Gurode there and bring in Johnson at Center.

 

[Doomsday]

Obviously the Oline is getting whipped but Bledsoe had chances to get this team back into the game and he made some horrible plays everytime they had a shot. The interception to Madison right before the half when Dallas had a chance to take the lead was on BLEDSOE not the Oline. Good QBs fight through the lapses in the Oline etc. and make plays when they have a shot. Bledsoe continues to make poor reads and stupid decisions and compound the problems of the Oline.

 

[ManicDepressiveMan]

I'll cut Columbo some slack.

On that last Strahan sack he had him blocked for a good 4 seconds but guess what?

Bledslow was still back there making love to the ball.

Pat pat pat, pat pat pat.............sack :bang2:

 

[Dalmations202]

Obviously the Oline is getting whipped but Bledsoe had chances to get this team back into the game and he made some horrible plays everytime they had a shot. The interception to Madison right before the half when Dallas had a chance to take the lead was on BLEDSOE not the Oline. Good QBs fight through the lapses in the Oline etc. and make plays when they have a shot. Bledsoe continues to make poor reads and stupid decisions and compound the problems of the Oline.

Agreed,

But why does this board think Romo is the answer?

Dallas was down 5 with Bledsoe. Romo gave up TD after TD with his mistakes, and is being given the starting job for it ? ? ?

They both looked like absolute crap last night, but Bledsoe won't lose you as many games this year as Romo will.

Fans on this board should be calling for the heads of the people who put that O-line out there. Good grief they would have made Troy Aikman or Roger Staubach look like scrubs as bad as the O-Line was yesterday.

 

[CalMor]

As someone who is from Arizona, I have the "priviledge" of watching the Arizona Cardinals play on a regular basis. I'm impressed with Matt Leinart but even he is limited by the Cardinals offensive line namely their lack of a Left and Right tackle.

Today's game showed the same weakness. We are all so enamored with who is starting at QB, that we are missing the point that we can't protect anyone who starts. Yes, Romo is more mobile than Bledsoe but even he will struggle when we face better teams. We can mask this deficiency when we play the Texans and Titans of this league. However, when we face the better teams in the NFL, it doesn't who starts at QB for us. Ultimately, we are going to lose because we can't block the better teams in the NFL.

You guys crack me up and talk playoffs and maybe we might make the playoffs but we aren't doing any damage until we take our offensive line seriously. The Cardinals are a sad organization. They try to start guards at tackles and it's a joke. But when I see one of the leagues best teams do the same thing at times, I have to ask myself, what the heck is Jerry and Bill doing? Have they not merely looked to their hated rivals in Philadelphia to see how an offense can remain consistently powerful when their offensive tackles are its strength on an annual basis?

Offensive tackle is a delicate position and you can't just stick anyone there and we seem to do that every year as if the position can be remedied by sticking Joe Scrub at RT and having Parcells and his wonderful coaching turn him into this star. Sorry, it hasn't worked since Parcells has been here and it will never work.

We are not doing anything in the playoffs this year so wake up. If we want to compete then we need to take these positions seriously next season and bring some serious talent to the tackle position either through the draft, free agency, miraculous trade or whatever. Talk Bledsoe/Romo or whatever but it doesn't matter who starts at QB until we fix our OFFENSIVE TACKLES. Notice, I didn't say offensive line since that word has been a cliche. Instead, let's be a little more specific and realize we aren't going to win anything with scrubs as our tackles. I don't even think Flozell is that great either.

Yes, Romo was more mobile today but ultimately he was forced into bad decisions because he had no time to throw just like Bledsoe. Now, I'm not a Bledsoe apologist. Bledsoe has never stopped eyeing receivers since he has been a rookie and thus he has interception written all over him but even if we had Peyton Manning at QB, we would struggle because we can't protect our QB when facing the best teams in the NFL.

Boy, I wish could find a forum that gets it. Maybe you could start your own?

 

[Rack]

As someone who is from Arizona, I have the "priviledge" of watching the Arizona Cardinals play on a regular basis. I'm impressed with Matt Leinart but even he is limited by the Cardinals offensive line namely their lack of a Left and Right tackle.

Today's game showed the same weakness. We are all so enamored with who is starting at QB, that we are missing the point that we can't protect anyone who starts. Yes, Romo is more mobile than Bledsoe but even he will struggle when we face better teams. We can mask this deficiency when we play the Texans and Titans of this league. However, when we face the better teams in the NFL, it doesn't who starts at QB for us. Ultimately, we are going to lose because we can't block the better teams in the NFL.

You guys crack me up and talk playoffs and maybe we might make the playoffs but we aren't doing any damage until we take our offensive line seriously. The Cardinals are a sad organization. They try to start guards at tackles and it's a joke. But when I see one of the leagues best teams do the same thing at times, I have to ask myself, what the heck is Jerry and Bill doing? Have they not merely looked to their hated rivals in Philadelphia to see how an offense can remain consistently powerful when their offensive tackles are its strength on an annual basis?

Offensive tackle is a delicate position and you can't just stick anyone there and we seem to do that every year as if the position can be remedied by sticking Joe Scrub at RT and having Parcells and his wonderful coaching turn him into this star. Sorry, it hasn't worked since Parcells has been here and it will never work.

We are not doing anything in the playoffs this year so wake up. If we want to compete then we need to take these positions seriously next season and bring some serious talent to the tackle position either through the draft, free agency, miraculous trade or whatever. Talk Bledsoe/Romo or whatever but it doesn't matter who starts at QB until we fix our OFFENSIVE TACKLES. Notice, I didn't say offensive line since that word has been a cliche. Instead, let's be a little more specific and realize we aren't going to win anything with scrubs as our tackles. I don't even think Flozell is that great either.

Yes, Romo was more mobile today but ultimately he was forced into bad decisions because he had no time to throw just like Bledsoe. Now, I'm not a Bledsoe apologist. Bledsoe has never stopped eyeing receivers since he has been a rookie and thus he has interception written all over him but even if we had Peyton Manning at QB, we would struggle because we can't protect our QB when facing the best teams in the NFL.

I've been saying that for weeks.

 

[CalMor]

As someone who is from Arizona, I have the "priviledge" of watching the Arizona Cardinals play on a regular basis. I'm impressed with Matt Leinart but even he is limited by the Cardinals offensive line namely their lack of a Left and Right tackle.

Today's game showed the same weakness. We are all so enamored with who is starting at QB, that we are missing the point that we can't protect anyone who starts. Yes, Romo is more mobile than Bledsoe but even he will struggle when we face better teams. We can mask this deficiency when we play the Texans and Titans of this league. However, when we face the better teams in the NFL, it doesn't who starts at QB for us. Ultimately, we are going to lose because we can't block the better teams in the NFL.

You guys crack me up and talk playoffs and maybe we might make the playoffs but we aren't doing any damage until we take our offensive line seriously. The Cardinals are a sad organization. They try to start guards at tackles and it's a joke. But when I see one of the leagues best teams do the same thing at times, I have to ask myself, what the heck is Jerry and Bill doing? Have they not merely looked to their hated rivals in Philadelphia to see how an offense can remain consistently powerful when their offensive tackles are its strength on an annual basis?

Offensive tackle is a delicate position and you can't just stick anyone there and we seem to do that every year as if the position can be remedied by sticking Joe Scrub at RT and having Parcells and his wonderful coaching turn him into this star. Sorry, it hasn't worked since Parcells has been here and it will never work.

We are not doing anything in the playoffs this year so wake up. If we want to compete then we need to take these positions seriously next season and bring some serious talent to the tackle position either through the draft, free agency, miraculous trade or whatever. Talk Bledsoe/Romo or whatever but it doesn't matter who starts at QB until we fix our OFFENSIVE TACKLES. Notice, I didn't say offensive line since that word has been a cliche. Instead, let's be a little more specific and realize we aren't going to win anything with scrubs as our tackles. I don't even think Flozell is that great either.

Yes, Romo was more mobile today but ultimately he was forced into bad decisions because he had no time to throw just like Bledsoe. Now, I'm not a Bledsoe apologist. Bledsoe has never stopped eyeing receivers since he has been a rookie and thus he has interception written all over him but even if we had Peyton Manning at QB, we would struggle because we can't protect our QB when facing the best teams in the NFL.

Oh yea, thanks for stating the obvious. We've only been hearing and talking about this since last year.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Agreed.

And "no" this team is not going to the playoffs.

Woke up this morning with a very familiar feeling.

Morning Michael.

 

[Future]

We are all so enamored with who is starting at QB, that we are missing the point that we can't protect anyone who starts.

I agree with a lot of your post, but not this. Ithink you would be hard pressed to find someone around here who has been happy with our o-line since the philly game.